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These were the details I got when I asked - however I wouldn't guarantee this is what you'll get on any particular sailing, I believe it has already changed once, and since the line hasn't even had their debut yet it could easily change again. We'll all find out more once revenue cruises finally begin.

Sailor Services Crew (19/01/2021, 20:32:49): Sure, so your in-room bar is bottomless, and you get a choice of these drinks:

1 - White Wine Ryder Pinot Gris 375 mL
1 - Rosé Wine Ryder Rosé 375 mL
1 - Red Wine Ryder Pinot Noir 375 mL
1 - Champagne Moet Chandon Brut 375 mL
1 - Vodka Belvedere 375 mL
1 - Gin Hendrick’s 375 mL
1 - Rum Bacardi Superior 375 mL
1 - Whiskey Buffalo Trace Bourbon 375 mL
1 - Tequila Casa Noble Reposado 375 mL
2 - Local Beer Wynwood Brewing Stray The Course
2 - International Beer Heineken/Lager
2 - Energy Drink Red Bull/Regular
2 - Energy DrinkRed Bull/Sugar Free
2 - Specialty Non-Alcoholic Health-Ade/Pink Lady Kombucha 237 mL
2 - Specialty Non-Alcoholic London Essence Co. London Classic Tonic Water
2 - Specialty Non-Alcoholic London Essence Co. Ginger Beer
1 - Complimentary Water Natura 1 Liter Carafe
Sailor Services Crew (19/01/2021, 20:33:58): For around the ship, your drinks are included up to $25/glass or $90/bottle.

Given their ownership structure, unless Bain decide to pull the plug (and there's no indication of that happening - they'd lose their whole investment) they should be fine.

25 minutes ago, laslomas said:

 

I think, I hope, that if the cruise line cancels the sailing they offer a full refund, or 125% FCC. 

I meant specifically if you already had applied a cancelled cruise FCC which I believe @Orator had

On 12/4/2020 at 3:40 PM, Orator said:

Unless they have a L&S I will chose a refund this time. 

Is that an option? I thought you'd just get the FCC returned to you and a refund on your deposit. Interested because I'm in the same position.

10 hours ago, jryansales said:

I’m sure I’ll get some hate for this...but I’m in my early thirties and super loyal to Celebrity (we enjoy being the young ones on the boat;)...)

 

I think this is a great move for Celebrity. It is basically what they’ve already been doing with a bit more transparency....

 

We’ll still be on their cruises and I hope we’ll still be the young ones on board:)

I'm also a late millennial, though I would describe celebrity as one of my preferred lines rather than being loyal. This change is good from my point of view, we generally prefer the experience of the cheaper cabins on higher-tier cruise lines, and mostly cruise with a drinks package. Of course if the price goes to where I can add a package on to other lines offering a similar experience for less I'll probably do that instead, but that mostly hasn't been the case with their existing offers.

On 10/27/2020 at 4:56 PM, happygolucky62 said:

in May 2022 I am on the 14 night Transatlantic from Miami to Barcelona. The Biggest Cheeky Corner was already unavailable (temporarily) so I grabbed the Gorgeous Suite with all of the Mega amenities!

We've booked a gorgeous suite for that crossing too, sounds like we'll see you there!

14 hours ago, Cannavaro said:

The thing about stats is it can always be pointed in a favorable direction of one's choosing.

 

Absolutely and the point of my choosing is that the problems you encounter at a different order of magnitude of infection rates are not the same, therefore looking at Italy and especially Singapore as solid comparisons is asinine.

40 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said:

 

Of course Asia and Europe are not NA.  It's a different market with different laws, but if it can be successfully done there, it follows that if we relax some of our requirements and follow proven effective protocols, safe sailing could conceivably resume. 

Italy's cases per 100,000 is around a tenth that of Florida.

I'm booked for a May 2022 TA on Virgin, will book a celebrity cruise for later in 2022 when they're released.

8 minutes ago, Josy1953 said:

I would never use a password manager because you are once more putting your passwords in a domain than could be hacked in the future.

It's worth checking how your passwords will be stored, but if the encryption is watertight it's pretty safe. Always have two-factor authentication enabled for every email account you own though, and any other accounts that offer it.

Interesting site for seeing if your email has been in any of the larger breaches:
https://haveibeenpwned.com/

As someone who works in the industry, I think a healthy dose of paranoia is required to keep yourself safe online!

Re the age chat, at mid 30s I'm hoping I must surely count 🤞 - certainly I required the tobacco clarification 😄

10 hours ago, Josy1953 said:

It is not a simple matter of changing your password on your P&O account, you need to change your passwords on every site where you use the same email address as you use on P&O site because if they have your email address they may have scanned the internet for all accounts with your email address as an entry point. 

 

I have currently changed P&O, Princess, Cunard, Celebrity, Amazon, Tesco, Sainsburys, Doctor, Dentist, M&S, Radley and I am looking back to check wherever else I have online accounts.

You were using the same password for all of those accounts?! 😱

Try not to ever use the same password for more than one thing, obviously this is very hard to keep track of so use a password manager to do it.

I sailed MSC in Europe a number of years ago and the experience was barely even comparable to RC. The food ranged from OK to bad, our one visit to a specialty restaurant was laughable (eg they were running low on wraps so my wife had only 2 to accompany her fajitas. As usual with any problem there was just an expectation that you live with it). The drinks available on the drinks package were substantially more limited than royal's (though we didn't sail on royal until later, I think they also used to have a more limited package in the past). The one saving grace was that it was extremely cheap, £360pp for a week, which meant we were somewhat more forgiving of the various issues.

As I said, this was 2013 so things may have changed a bit, but that was my experience.

15 hours ago, ipeeinthepool said:

 

I invite you to come across the border and we can visit these testing sites.  People from all over the world come to the US because the best health care in the world is available in the US.  I'm not sure I've ever heard of anyone going to Toronto for medical care.

I'm sure that's true - if you have the ability to pay! The NHS isn't perfect, but everyone from the poorest to the richest person here in the UK gets decent medical care. And if you have the ability to pay more, private healthcare is available to you. There are very, very few people here who would exchange the UK healthcare system for the USA's.

Just off the top of my head...

Danube river cruise

Full transit of the Panama canal

Australia to Hawaii

Alaska

Baltic

Right now of course, I'd gladly take a trip around Southampton water! Fortunately there will be plenty of cruising time post-pandemic (whenever that is).

On 7/29/2020 at 11:48 PM, Desert Diamond said:

attract a somewhat younger, luxury-seeking demographic

 

 

I guess at the top-end of millennial age I fit in this demographic. I'm hoping to move most of my cruising to Celebrity over the next few years, even if it means sailing in primarily inside cabins, but I'm more than happy to sail on any of their ships. Booked for Constellation in May and I'm hopeful in terms of the health situation by then, but I am a little nervous about the ship being removed from the fleet. If we got 125% FCC I think we'd still struggle to find something affordable since that sailing was already good value and prices have spiked since then.

Additionally given the FCOs advice against cruising here in the UK there's no way to get travel insurance. So until that's lifted you'd be extremely brave (/ foolhardy) to book anything for the rest of the year.

I think there's almost zero chance of that sailing.

2 hours ago, wowzz said:

Of cruises aren't up and running by next May, the cruise industry will be on the verge of collapse.

I agree - I think there will be cruises by then, but we're due to sail on Celebrity Constellation which missed a refurb this year, putting it at the front of the queue if they decide to retire a ship.

I'm booked for November and January (which I anticipate not sailing, though I would be on them if they did), May & September and planning to add November next year. I'd give the May cruise a 50/50 chance as things stand and pretty confident about the ones after that. Sars-cov-2 is now endemic and we're going to have to learn to live with it, fortunately treatments are improving and vaccines should increase the survival rate even further.

1 hour ago, Ourusualbeach said:

On cruises cancelled by Royal the FCC is split equally among guests.  Also when you go to apply it they will move FCC money around between the 2 guests to use most or all of it up. 

That would be ideal for me, 🤞 that's what happens. Thanks both for your insights.

Hi All,

I have a reservation for myself & my wife where guest 1 (me) has about 4 times the charge of guest 2 (my wife) due to a promotion on the second guest and a paid upgrade being charged entirely to guest 1. Would any FCC being issued be proportional to those charges? If that's the case my FCC would be too much for the future cruise we have booked and would be wasted whilst my wife's would cover very little of the fare.

My guess would be April 2021, but only if a vaccine has been widely distributed by then and the usual respiratory disease winter season has died down.

As of the end of May the ONS reported that circa 1 in 15 people were testing positive for the antibodies, so I don't think the 70-80% number is very likely unfortunately.

On 10/30/2019 at 9:07 PM, Vampiress88 said:

I would assume p&o need to try and cater to a younger age base now. I don’t mind getting dressed up but most people don’t have formal dress in their wardrobe like they used to.

As a millennial - just - I'm always sad to see the cruise lines reducing the number of formal nights. My wife loves the chance to wear some of her fanciest outfits, and there's not much call for my tux during the rest of the year.

2 hours ago, Harry Peterson said:

Wouldn't a few days at an appropriate (to suit your personal requirements) onshore holiday centre do the job just as well?  And considerably more cheaply?

Whenever we've considered this we've found that it's going to cost (a lot) more. But we're happy with an inside cabin, which is size-wise smaller than pretty much every hotel room I've been in excepting Point A and that does affect the economics of it somewhat.