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33 minutes ago, rcandkc said:
Aren’t seniors living in group settings in 1A ...first to receive along with health providers. I know NOTHING about the Villages. Just asking.
My understanding is that the CDC strongly recommended that all seniors living in congregate housing (such as long term care facilities) be vaccinated in the first phase, 1A, along with HCWs. I don't believe the Villages is considered congregate housing - I thought it was just a large, age-restricted planned community (albeit with political clout) in Florida. DeSantis modified the CDC recommendation (as is his right, and responsibility, as governor) to include all seniors, no matter where living, or how healthy, as I understand it.
I'm a senior, with one co-morbidity, and live in my own condo. As far as I know, unless my state suddenly stopped following CDC guidelines since yesterday, I'm in 1C. Behind HCW, seniors over 75, designated essential workers, etc.
Next For COVID-19 Vaccines: Adults 75 And Older, Some Essential Workers : Coronavirus Updates : NPR
As I mentioned before, IMO it's a tough call for the governors, depending on their states' demographics, where the population lives, availability of medical care, all that. I'm not surprised to see some variation, but personally I'm ok with the CDC's recommendations. I'm fortunate enough to still be able to pretty much shelter in place, unlike a younger, maybe healthier person who is an essential, public facing worker, or employed in food production, e.g., every day.
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DeSantis talks coronavirus vaccine distribution in The Villages (palmbeachpost.com)
This story says 20 residents of the Villages were vaccinated, and also how the first shipments of vaccines were distributed in Florida.
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2 hours ago, gmjc2 said:
I would love to hear how they got appointments and which county? I have tried the Walgreens website and it tells you to wait to hear from your employer or health authority. Our county health people are showing nothing! We saw the Villages elderly getting it earlier in the week so it probably depends who you know! Hubby is 76 and I am 68 with 4 high risk conditions so were hoping to be called by now!
I'm sure so many seniors in Florida are concerned about when they're getting the vaccine, after Gov. DeSantis' comments to the press. Everyone in the country is wondering 'where am I in line'? Even HCWs are wondering how it all works, for themselves and their patients.
From what I've read, the Villages is also affiliated with a robust hospital system. That may be helping, depending on how many shots were allocated to that system, especially if it has a robust cold chain system (for Pfizer). And, yeah, to be cynical, not surprised a press show was held there. Question is, did everyone at the Villages get shots yet?
And, I wouldn't be surprised if the Governor's statements are a little ahead of public health planning in Florida. All the governors are walking a fine line with prioritization, public comments, and what the public health departments and healthcare systems can actually deliver, especially in these first weeks. Heck, in my state people were confused that our largest city was receiving its own shipment of vaccine, separate from amounts sent to the rest of the state, but that is the protocol across the country.States did not receive much federal help to date in implementing the vaccination process, again from my reading, so there's a lot of variation in what's happening, and how quickly. And these are still early days. I'm hopeful for February or March, as I have age and health conditions, but I think I'm in 1C. And at that I'm fortunate to have access to internet, have a doctor, and am not in a rural area.
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I agree that it will be difficult to miss announcements for the vaccination. I do think certain populations with less access to medical services, or even a lot of pharmacies, and the internet may require more outreach to ensure they're informed.
Do you have a county board of health? That may be a place to start. In my state, we can get updates for our state and county boards of health.
Your pharmacist may have some information (Walgreens maintains a COVID website), and my medical practice keeps updated information on MyChart. A lot of practices utilize MyChart to communicate with their patient base, IME.
We're basically following CDC at this time - I believe I'll be in the 1C roll out, based on age and health, and I have no issues following HCW and essential workers, even if they're young, if they're dealing with the public. Obviously, this is all dependent on how the rollout proceeds and how many shots are available to each state. -
Below from the Walgreens.com website. I personally believe most states are following CDC prioritization guidelines, but there may be variances by state decision. I know the hospital system I use is vaccinating their staff as we speak. I have age & health risks, so pretty sure I'm reasonably 'up the line' but will hang tight til either my county, physician and/or Walgreens tells me to show up.
I believe some employers, like Ford, and GM, are also working on mass vaccinations for their workers as requested. I hope major food processing employers are doing the same.
General Motors, Ford won't mandate Covid-19 vaccinations for employees (cnbc.com)
Who is eligible for a COVID-19 vaccination?
Per CDC guidance, COVID-19 vaccinations are currently only available to:
- Healthcare workers
- Residents of long-term care facilities
- Select populations based on varied state guidelines*
If you fall into one of these groups, you'll hear from your local health official or employer directly.
We anticipate vaccines be available for the general population at our stores sometime in 2021. Check back frequently for updates.
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Sorry if already posted - I believe this is on the NCL board as well. I don't know that this is either unexpected or a sign of the apocalypse. But I do think no line is quite out of the woods yet, even if all medical vaccinations and treatments of COVID go spectacularly well. But that could be said of so many industries also, IMO.
Royal Caribbean, Norwegian Cruise Line Are Put on Credit Watch Over Extended Suspensions | Barron's
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Not sure where else to put this, but assuming there will be many enhancements to ships due to COVID mitigation efforts. I suppose something like this, if effective, would be useful even if there were no COVID.
NCLH to combat coronavirus with fleetwide air purification system fit - Marine Log
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1 minute ago, Wendy The Wanderer said:
Yes, but it seems to me they should have an electronic component, like a QR code, so the information can be verified. Vaccination cards could too easily be counterfeited, don't you think?
Oh, I agree - I wonder if this is a quick, cheaper workaround to address folks who don't have access to personal electronics for whatever reason, or simply won't use it, as well as facing the fact we don't have a national database, to my knowledge. In a perfect world, they'd have the best people working on a national data base easily linked into by local entities. Our world - at least in the US there are people who are so suspicious of everything they'd see this as a massive conspiracy, IMO. Geez, the people screeching about the Real ID driver licenses in the US...
I know people who don't don't even like MyChart (a medical practice's electronic recordkeeping/access to practitioners application) because they think 'people' know too much about them.
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This is mostly a 'fun' calculator for those in the US to see where you may be in line for the vaccine. I don't know that it included the final CDC prioritization recommendations, and the states can alter those a bit. I'm hoping for sometime in February if things go well for a shot (age/risk factor/retired/noncongregate living)
Opinion | When Can I Get a Coronavirus Vaccine in America? - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
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Not sure where this might go, but apparently in the US we will all get little cards with the our vaccinations - I vaguely remember vaccination cards when I was a child
Vaccination cards will be issued to everyone getting Covid-19 vaccine, health officials say - CNN
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I've read the hopeful timing for the US gen pop vaccination will be in the April/May/June months. If it's the two dose regimen, I'd guess you have to add two months to the initial shot date for the vaccine to take effect.
My internist just Monday re-emphasized that being vaccinated will not mean tossing the masks and gathering in large groups right off the bat, but also that this is a huge step toward a more normalized life. He's guessing I'll be in tranche 1B once the final prioritization decisions are made.
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@beaujolais, thanks! I'm in the US, and wonder whether my provider is offering Smithsonian series on a different time line. Nonetheless, always interesting to watch, no matter the line or ship.
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I'm showing Koningsdam as season 3, Ep 1 on December 1, followed on December 8 by Viking Long Ship Gefjon - I've got Xfinity, Smithsonian Channel, Chicago area. Be interesting to see what pops up!
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I thought this article did a fairly good, if brief, overview of some of the issues regarding an equitable, efficient distribution of vaccines. I'll go as soon as I'm 'eligible', and hoping that the states will get the assistance they need to deal with this immense logistical challenge.
CDC advisory committee discusses who should get first vaccine doses (inquirer.com)
And now there seems to be some concern that some will not be happy with the side effects of the shot and may not come back with round two. The side effects, to me, sounded like what I experienced with Shingrex; if so, all I did was make sure I had some soup to warm up, some warm blankies, and TV set up for my 'recuperation days'. Hopefully side effects won't really be too much worse. I will not waste a dose if I humanly can avoid that.
“If this proves to work, people are going to have to toughen up,” she said. “The first dose is no big deal. And then the second dose will definitely put you down for the day for sure. ... You will need to take a day off after the second dose.”
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@howiefrommd, I've seen articles in the popular press as well saying that it might be wiser to vaccinate the 'super spreaders' and younger folks very early in the game. As I said, based on early articles I thought I might be in an early tier due to risk factors - but I wouldn't be surprised if the tiers are altered.
I'm getting up there, but living on my own so not that high up in the 'must vaccinate' grouping.
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I hope there will be great emphasis on ensuring the vaccines get to the people who need them most on an equitable basis. I suspect I'll be in a fairly early tier based on health risks, but there are a lot of people in other demographic groups who also desperately need first shot at the vaccine after HCW and first responders.
That said, I'm not counting on getting a vaccination, even if all goes swimmingly, til April/May at the earliest, even assuming I'm correct in thinking I'm in an early tier. And then there's the 28 days between shots, for the two-shot protocol.
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Early days, and both Pfizer and Moderna vaccines still have hoops to jump through, of course, but this sounds promising - especially vis a vis the cold chain issue. This would be huge getting the vaccine to those in more rural or medically underserved areas, I think
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/16/health/moderna-vaccine-results-coronavirus/index.html
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Butting in a bit - one of the techs at my local Walgreens told me a few weeks ago that the chain was working with the vaccine makers regarding distribution. She said it was going to be a 'bear' starting up, but she felt pretty confident. At least that day! I was surprised myself, since I had mentioned the extreme cold storage issue.
I believe that both CVS and Walgreens will be sending folks to long term care homes and retirement homes to administer shots, as well as shots at the stores for others as they work through the tiers eligible for shots during a given phase. I would expect it to be by appointment, myself.
And regarding room - well, just guessing but wait for the construction guys to come through in the not horribly distant future (I hope!) to reconfigure stores a bit.
@PelicanBill, might be a bit early but I'd check with your insurer. I suspect any of the majors will be revamping coverage to extend to more providers. As far as I know, Medicare has already stated it'll be no cost at point of service for the classic plan, wherever that may be. I may be wrong, but I'm reasonably sure there will be a deluge of communications going forward.
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Any chance the other couple was the pair reported to be upset about having to wear masks, when the rules changed on board?
Ok, that was snarky - more seriously, hope that all the ill recover fully and that the rest of the crew, passengers, and others interacting with them remain safe.
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Hoping it's something else, but at least the passenger was really responsible?
The passenger who tested positive asked for an additional test as they were feeling ill.
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Transcript of earnings call - sorry if redundant
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The requirement? Who knows....may depend on the virulence and spread of the virus over the next year or two (or more, I hope not!), the availability of useful vaccines or other treatment protocols, and data derived from all the test cruises, here and overseas (yes, I look at some of the European, in particular, sailings as beta cruises).
That said, heck, I'm checking to see when my physicians will be ok with my going to gyms, etc. - right now it's not on the 'advised' list. I'd certainly be asking them before taking a cruise. But I'm in a risk group, so.....
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2 hours ago, KirkNC said:
He could go on the test cruise.
If, as I read it, the 'test folks'
" must have written certification from a health care provider that they don’t have a pre-existing condition that puts the individual at high-risk for virus complications".
Mr. del Rio has certainly said he wanted family on the first cruises, but who knows if they'll qualify....so many people (including myself) would never be cleared by a health care provider regarding risk.
I believe top execs should be on these sailings if medically possible - for morale boosting, if nothing else.
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What do you think the odds are that they will require.....
in Regent Seven Seas Cruises
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Here's an overview of the AZ vaccine testing and the two vs one dose deal. I suspect the FDA will be carefully reviewing all the data (as they have and should) before US approval. I'm also trying to follow the collaboration between the AZ folks and use of the Sputnik vaccine. Certainly the more arrows in the global quiver, the better, yes?
How the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 Vaccine Works - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine requires two doses, given four weeks apart, to prime the immune system to fight off the coronavirus. During the clinical trial of the vaccine, the researchers unwittingly gave some volunteers only half a dose.
Surprisingly, the vaccine combination in which the first dose was only half strength was 90 percent effective at preventing Covid-19 in the clinical trial. In contrast, the combination of two full-dose shots led to just 62 percent efficacy. The researchers speculate that the lower first dose did a better job of mimicking the experience of an infection, promoting a stronger immune response when the second dose was administered.