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On 6/1/2024 at 10:26 AM, Crashe said:

Never been on HAL, primarily with Princess awaiting a February cruise.  Understand the group issue.  Our last cruise had 600 polka fans.  I would like to say you didn’t notice them but entire venues were closed.  .......

@Crashe this is why the work that @VMax1700 does on trying to find all the charters and groups on HAL ships is so wonderful.  You can look at the groups and see if you think it will impact your trip or not.  And even possibly search up the group to get an idea of size.
 

It is possible that certain venues might get impacted.  Usually it is the small gathering rooms (vary based on ship but like the Hudson room or such).  With larger groups they might take the Theater during the day, or another venue.  Depends upon size and needs.  I was in a genealogy cruise group -- we had the meeting rooms one one sea day, the theater on another, and a private reception in an area off the Crow's Nest.  Impact on others was likely slight.
 

On 5/31/2024 at 11:32 AM, cruiser man 60 said:

What’s a knitting group ? I note we have one aboard when we sail, is this 00s of old Ladies knitting scarves😂

@cruiser man 60 When crafting groups do cruises the number can vary, as well as the impact on the ship services.  Normally they will have classes on sea days -- so expect the meeting rooms to be booked.  In these classes they will often focus on specific techniques or projects.  As far as ages and genders it can vary greatly -- although the money and ability to take cruises can skew a demographic older.  And often the crafter will travel with other family members who will not be in the craft group but will be on vacation.  And given that knitting and crochet are very portable crafts you might expect to see people sitting in various places working on projects.  Unless the sight of yarn strikes fear in your heart I do not think you will be in trouble.

11 hours ago, Mary229 said:

I didn’t know there were enough people to justify a special sailings, as PT Barnum said……

 

after seeing the art recently on the K I realized many people have never visited an art museum 

One of the Park West people cornered my friend on a recent cruise (she was naive and unknowing and went into their gallery space).  Understand that my friend used to work at the Archives of American Art (its a division of the Smithsonian and is confused with their other galleries sometimes but you can figure out what its specialty is).  She actually did not tell them what she really thought of their claims and descriptions of the artwork .....

While I do always look at VMax1700's charter/group list there is no way to know for certain the size of the group involved.

Case in point, I was part of a group booked on an Alaska cruise on the Koningsdam.  (It was a Genealogy group).  We were about 150 total and did have exclusive use of some rooms and the theater on sea days.  That was it.  Some people probably had no idea we were on the boat really.  But only the group knew how many people were booked beforehand -- so unless you were in on those communications you wouldn't know.  We could have been 10 times that amount (unlikely, I know) and then it would have impacted the rest of the people.  (To be fair it was also in 2022 and the ship did not sail at full capacity but it was full-ish).

And depending upon how the group worked their contract/deal with HAL it might not be until close to the sail date that they have a final total # of cruisers.  Which might put it after final payment for normal cruisers.

So take the list as a warning, and if you do book on one of the listed weeks with a group be prepared/forewarned.  You could try to do some web sleuthing to figure out if the group might be considered annoying to your cruise ideals but you may or may not turn up useful info on number of attendees.  And yes, it is possible for the group to show up a bit after booking opens -- all depends upon how "put together" the management of the group is perhaps.

On 3/29/2024 at 10:18 PM, TeeLee530 said:

I recently discovered JoCo cruises online. And it seems like it would be amazing. Definitely on my bucket list for the future.

I had a good time.  It is different from a regular cruise ..... so if you love all the gimmicky sales things that happens on a regular HAL cruise you will not like it.  But the other things make up for it I think.  I did find it oddly quiet in the evenings if you were not in the main theater -- nothing else going on usually.  And definitely runs later in the night than other HAL cruises and cruise demographics!!!

We booked again for 2025 -- mainly because hubs is a big They Might Be Giants fan.  In 2026 they will sail out of San Diego which is a no-go for us (plus we have other travel plans that year).

I was on Oosterdam's fall TA crossing and did not think the condition of the ship was as bad as you seem to think it is.

Is João still teaching the Tai Chi class?  That was a highlight of my day on that trip.

1 hour ago, POA1 said:

A little Grand Turk photo action. Ever since the Salt Museum closed, I've been at a loss for what to do here.

I found Grand Turk to be the perhaps the best "public" stop on my cruise in March.  (Half Moon Cay is a "private" stop afterall).  Since it was our first time there 4 of us rented a golf cart and puttered around.  Made it up to the lighthouse (cheesy but nice views) while only getting lost once.  Our best find was the island museum.  So much in such a small building!  And well done.  (I am a librarian afterall and work in a place that also houses a museum).  I suppose after a few visits it might get boring.... 🤷‍♀️

So, some of this is probably the idea of keeping people interested in HAL even when not on the boat. By promoting book clubs that meet outside of the actual cruise they are fostering a community spirit that is not involved with "commercial" social media or similar (such as our forums or FaceBook, etc.)  So in that sense people on these forums are *not* the target demographic although if they pull us in as well that is fine.  Also forums/places where they can slightly control the feed as well as see exactly who is interacting in order for them to get a better sense of demographics.  (Its all about metadata at times).

Seeing as how many people cannot detach themselves from their electronic devices giving them a hook to continue to do so on board is another point of consideration.  And remember that they are seeking to expand the demographics on board -- so things that you might not think is nice or attractive might be to someone who they want to court and keep as a customer.

Also add in the weight and bag limits when flying -- those paper books add up.  And if trying to fly without checking any luggage (it can be done depending upon itineray, cruise length, personal clothing preferences) those books get left behind at home.

Bon Voyage!  Looking forward to the paparazzi shots of Poohby Joe!

2 hours ago, AllTheSun said:

Was the alarm accompanied by a voice announcement so novice cruisers who might have forgotten about the final blast knew not to rush to the lifeboats?

Yes, but it was about calling people (i.e. staff) to certain fire drill stations and other info.  It took a bit to realize that there was no call for lifeboats and to process the lack of the blasts signaling that.  As I said, I was really groggy and brain was slow.  The next morning even the "experienced" cruisers were saying how they had been in similar state of almost confusion.  Not sure if that assured the newbies or not!

While I like the safety videos there is much to be said for doing the actual muster sometimes.  I feel the same at work for fire drills.  (My job includes the aspect that we have public visitors to the building so we need to know what we are doing so we can also shepherd others to the correct exits).

I was on the NA the week prior to this one (the JoCo24 charter), and a few from our charter remained onboard for this week. 

On our trip (3/9-3/16) we had a fuel leak sometime after midnight the first night -- serious enough that that there was almost the full alarm.  I was groggy with sleep and it took me more than a few moments to realize that we did not have the final blasts needed to sound the evacuation and I didn't need to go to the lifeboats.  Closest I have ever come to hearing those in real time (and not a drill) basically.  I doubt that the fuel leak was tied to the current incident -- its a big boat and there are lots of systems.  But it saddens me that there were deaths.

OK, well after the fact, but thanks for all the good wishes.

It was a glorious cruise -- I just had so much to do leading up to it that getting around to the forums wasn't in the cards.  This was a charter (a cruise boat filled with nerds basically).  But here is what I was working on so hard for the cruise.  Some of you may appreciate the humor in it, while it is fine if others are just plain confused:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4g6sYaMN9X/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Follow up now that I returned from the cruise.  Yes, they noticed the bottles of wine in the bag -- (DH actually put it in his medicine bag!)  Yes, I signed a slip if paper charging me the corkage fee.  But, the fee never showed up on my statement.  (Will see about final one once the last day morning drinks are put into it).  They did not tag the bottles at all, nor did we even consider storing them with wherever they keep wine.  We kept them in our cabin and brought them with us to Pinnacle and MDR.

YMMV.

15 minutes ago, ger_77 said:

It's a charter, isn't it?  I can see so many people with matching lanyards.

Yes — the JoCo charter.

I’m onboard.  Was standing on my verandah (port side — 7th floor) and waved away.

Thanks and bye!

I can confirm we are moving! Just not certain where 🤣

1 minute ago, Happily@Sea said:

 

Not a surprise. There are always a few. Thanks.

We were “missing” 10% as of 3:30

great passive aggressive shade from the cruise director

1 minute ago, Happily@Sea said:

Looks like NA and Symphony otS were too optimistic about their 4:45 pm departure.

I’m on the NA now …… there were people not doing the muster drill on time 

14 hours ago, kazu said:

 

If you want to enjoy it in the MDR, take it (or a couple of bottles down and ask them to store it for you - they will tag it with your table and room number.

 

It works wells for fixed dining.  (I’ve done it over the years when I am in spots that have wine we would never see here).  

 

For anytime dining I would be tempted to cool it in my cabin and take it with me.  I fear the delay would be too long. (I haven’t tested it though). 

 

We’ve never avoided the corkage fee like others have but have never regretted paying if there was wine we couldn’t get on board that we enjoyed.  If your DH enjoyed it, go for it

The corkage fee is worth it for special or specially enjoyable wine IMO 😉 

Thanks @kazu.  The cruise is a special charter -- which has some rule variations.  We are not at a fixed table but it is fixed dinner times to accommodate the special evening performances.  The night(s) we would be in the MDR we are most likely going to be with friends who do have a fixed table (a large 10 top with only 8 people fixed to it).  So I'm thinking holding in my cabin is the better choice.  Although I am wondering if since I know which night I will be joining them if I can take the bottle to someone early that day for chilling/handling.  Means I wont have to carry a bottle or two to the special cocktail event before dinner.  I suppose can ask once on board with the wine table checkin.

(in midst of packing throes today as we drive down to FLL tomorrow and board on saturday.  So, good anxiety mode as opposed to bad anxiety mode!)

So, since I've never done it before, how does bringing your own wine on board work?  Especially in regards to where its stored and how you get it at dinner time?  (I'm headed off to a cruise this weekend and seriously tempted to bring some Liebfraumlich because they do not serve it on board and it is one of the few wines hubs likes.) Wondering if it is worth the hassle (if any) or not.  Corkage fees are not an issue one way or the other -- I'm more concerned about procedure.

@IslandBob123 -- if you think that both of you will need to use the internet at the same time you can buy the multi-device plan for a single user.  That allows up to four devices logged into a single navigator account.  It is cheaper to do the multi-device for one person instead of getting two separate packages.  And if you got your internet plan through HIA, and have the basic lowest level and find that you need a higher level, you do not need to upgrade both.  Last cruise hubs upgraded to premium because he needed it and I kept at the basic (we were on a HIA plan and it was before the most recent change in the plan structure).  For our upcoming cruise we do not have HIA and instead purchased a plan under one account that will be multi-device.  Yes it means one of us has to log in under the other account name.  Not much of an issue as we share logins on other things as well.

I was looking at the different packages today and noticed the FAQ at the bottom of the page.  One question made me open and look. 

So a usage cap without calling it a usage cap?

Here's the text for those who might have problems with images:

How much usage is allowed per day per user?
With the introduction of content-based plans guests no longer have to worry about running out of minutes or megabytes – they can use their device to access included sites all day. After certain daily limits guest data may receive lower prioritization but guests will not be prevented from accessing sites included in their package.

11 hours ago, crystalspin said:

Do they have any hand-specific (NOT manicure!) treatments? I apparently have some arthritis in my hands that has taken to limit my knitting and other activities.

@crystalspin you might talk to them specifically about the fire and ice manicure.  The pedicure version included a foot massage so I am thinking the manicure version has a hand massage? 

I like/prefer the hot stone massage.  Once I had the R3 total deep whatever it is called -- and while I needed it (due to lots of stress in my life at the time) it did leave me sore for a few days. 

Husband kinda found he liked the fire/ice pedicure (he has a thing about other people touching him so I was surprised he even tried!)

4 hours ago, OlsSalt said:

 

HAL is known to be a more quiet cruise line. In a few years (decades?) this may well appeal to you. Probably not now. Though HAL's four newer and larger ships are very different - far more active.

 

The smaller HAL ships are chosen more for their travel itineraries and access to so many more unusual ports. A value cruise line for travelers primarily. 

Actually that quiet nature was what appealed to us in our twenties as honeymooners and has kept us returning 30 years later.  Then again I have never actually fit into most stereotypes. 

19 hours ago, jondfk said:

We brought a 12 pack of Root Beer on board, just taped a luggage tape on it, it was the first thing to arrive before other luggage.

 

Why?  DW doesn’t much care for Sprite and surprisingly root beer is caffeine free.

 

 

Actually not all root beer is caffeine free.  I forget which brand(s) but there are some that do add caffeine for some unknown reason.  (And I know this as caffeine is verboten with certain medications and there was a time I was on one of them).

@horseymikeAdding to @kazu above you can look at Roger's site where he has a scan of the actual description of all drinks included in each package.

https://rogerjett-photography.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Beverage-Packages-2024.pdf