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Anyone on the FOS have any info about the man falling overboard and being killed in Cozumel?

 

 

I was taking pictures of the Freedom as the accident accured with the man that lost his life. I was there as the boat came in to dock. We heard someone or something fall into the water. Family started jumping in to save the man. I had the chance to speak to a nurse that was on the boat. She claims the man had a heart attack and fallen over board.

There are reports of him been cut up by the perpeller. I personally did not see blood, nor did anyone touch his legs. I did not hear the man screaming in pain if he was cut. I am outraged by the things that is being said on here about this awful accident. My heart and prayers go to the family. I prayed my heart out when I saw what happend. I cried just as hard as the family. My god bless all your souls.

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I was on this boat when the incident happened. It was the "Passion Island Escape" excursion. Out of respect for the family I will not go into details on here but I will say that most of the things I have read on here are not entirely accurate. I will say I do not think negligence by the crew was a huge contributing factor. However, they probably should have monitered the drinking by their guests more closely. Also, I'm pretty sure he did not suffer for long thankfully.

 

I will respectfully have to disagree with this.

It's time we stop assigning responsibility to others for our own inebriation.

 

We claim to be adults but then when we over drink & something bad happens we point the finger somewhere else? The gun doesn't fire itself as the saying goes.

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Who said this man was on the pier. :confused: According to reports, he was standing on the catamaran ferry and the ferry hit the pier, thus knocking him off the ferry and into the water.

 

I wrote "If this man was standing on the pier", trying to refute an earlier posting suggesting it.

 

I'm not sure if the news report is fully accurate though, as the reporters may likely also have got their information from speculative sources. And then we ported the report through an online translation website. I'm pretty sceptical about Mexican news reports concerning tourists.

 

As to knowing details about this accident - I had a really horrible non-sleep that night thinking about it and what a shopkeeper told me had happened (which turned out to be wrong). Serves me right for listening and misplacing my sympathies - and the FOS officers were correct to not broadcast this trajedy. We don't want a shipload of sleep deprived, heatstroked and upset passengers, increasing risks to each other.

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First of all, I want to extend my prayers to this family who is affected by this accident.

 

I am not sure we will ever fully know what happened. With the newest first-hand report a couple of posts ago, I can't believe the different versions reported here by the people who were there. I believe all of what was reported first hand and I am not bashing, but it is such a different account from one another.

 

We did this excursion to Passion Island last November. The operators of this tour were very personable and professional. We took a yellow double deck tender/catamaran.

 

Such a heart breaking event.

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I was on my balcony on the Freedom right after this happened...sad to see the family members being escorted off. One post said that he died on the way to hospital but we saw a body bag being taken off the boat and put in the morgue van. Did not get much info from cruise line..the show must go on. Tragic.:(

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We watched from the beach at Senor Frogs at about the moment they were pulling the daughter in from the water. It was so sad to witness the amount we did and the family's reaction. My thoughts and prayers are with the family during this tragedy. I can't even imagine what they are going through.

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This is very tragic, and it saddens me to think of his family as well as others that had to witness this.

 

RCCL has a policy of not announcing deaths that occur during a cruise. They usually have one on most cruises because of the large number of elderly cruising, as well as people that have other life threatening issues happen. I've cruised with them for 37 years and never heard or read a death announcement on board the ship. As posted above, they will notify the immediate dining companions and friends, but not make general announcements. They handle these things very discreetly and with great respect. They also carry coffins on board so the remains can be sent home by air if the death occurs on board the ship.

 

There are far, far more people that do NOT want to know than do, and since it happens frequently, they keep it quiet and discreet.

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Well, I wouldn't say it happens on every cruise, or even weekly for that matter, but deaths are common aboard cruise ships. In most cases it is natural causes.

 

Cruise ships have refridgerator facilities that can be used for the storage of bodies and they are turned over to the authorities at the next U.S., or to a USCG vessel near a U.S. port.....in a bag, not a coffin. In my USCG career and having dealt with this often, I have never known a cruise ship to carry coffins.

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Well, I wouldn't say it happens on every cruise, or even weekly for that matter, but deaths are common aboard cruise ships. In most cases it is natural causes.

 

Cruise ships have refridgerator facilities that can be used for the storage of bodies and they are turned over to the authorities at the next U.S., or to a USCG vessel near a U.S. port.....in a bag, not a coffin. In my USCG career and having dealt with this often, I have never known a cruise ship to carry coffins.

 

You need to pass this information along to the Travel Channel producers then.

 

I've watched several cruise ship programs where the ship's officers has stated exactly what I posted above. I also asked this on my 2005 TA when we had our Diamond lunch with the Customer Relations Manager, and he told me this, too. I'm no expert, but I've had this information from several sources.

 

They average one death per cruise.

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You need to pass this information along to the Travel Channel producers then.

 

I've watched several cruise ship programs where the ship's officers has stated exactly what I posted above. I also asked this on my 2005 TA when we had our Diamond lunch with the Customer Relations Manager, and he told me this, too. I'm no expert, but I've had this information from several sources.

 

They average one death per cruise.

 

And I have a combined 13 years in the USCG, which includes my current civilian employment, and I assure you that it is not one death per cruise. This is something I deal with in my current employment.

 

I'm not saying you didn't hear this. I'm just saying it is not correct.

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My husband and I were on this excursion w/this family and I believe about 87 other people. I am writing this post in the event the daughter of the deceased somehow reads this at some point. I am the lady that stood on the pier with you and hugged and prayed with you as they were trying to rescue your dad. We cried together and I certainly felt your pain, as I still do. I know that your dad had a great day at Passion Island with you and your sister. My husband and I witnessed much laughter between you and your group. I hope you can carry those last memories with you always and cherish them. I can't imagine what you must be going thru now, but know that my prayers are still with you and I pray that you and your family get thru this tragic event. I am so sorry you had to witness this, but I hope in some small way you find comfort in knowing that you will never be out of my prayers. God bless you and your family.

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And I have a combined 13 years in the USCG, which includes my current civilian employment, and I assure you that it is not one death per cruise. This is something I deal with in my current employment.

 

I'm not saying you didn't hear this. I'm just saying it is not correct.

 

I see where you are misunderstanding me: I am talking about worldwide averages, not just the U.S, and I cannot find the article where I read this information several years ago that prompted me to ask the CS Manager on board the Splendour. It doesn't really matter, anyway. I'm just trying to point out that they are prepared for these types of things.

 

Also, the "coffins" are containers for flying the deceased elsewhere. I know airlines have a supply of these, too, but I was told each ship has 1 - 3 on board.

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Some of you people need to show a little respect for the family. I was on the catamaran ten feet away from the guy when it happened. Very little of what I have seen on here is accurate. Most of it is completely wrong. If you don't know what your talking about, don't act like you do. Even the links to the articles are not accurate. Show some respect!

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My husband and I were on this excursion w/this family and I believe about 87 other people. I am writing this post in the event the daughter of the deceased somehow reads this at some point. I am the lady that stood on the pier with you and hugged and prayed with you as they were trying to rescue your dad. We cried together and I certainly felt your pain, as I still do. I know that your dad had a great day at Passion Island with you and your sister. My husband and I witnessed much laughter between you and your group. I hope you can carry those last memories with you always and cherish them. I can't imagine what you must be going thru now, but know that my prayers are still with you and I pray that you and your family get thru this tragic event. I am so sorry you had to witness this, but I hope in some small way you find comfort in knowing that you will never be out of my prayers. God bless you and your family.

 

Thank God for people like you that care. I am sure she may not remember your face right now, but your presence, hugs and prayers may have helped her get to the next step.

I often travel alone with my adolescent daughter and prayer that if anything ever happens there is someone like you to give the comfort that is needed.

I will say a little prayer for you and for your own tragedy of having to witness such an even unfold and all the emotions that go with it.

Dawn

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My husband and I were on this excursion w/this family and I believe about 87 other people. I am writing this post in the event the daughter of the deceased somehow reads this at some point. I am the lady that stood on the pier with you and hugged and prayed with you as they were trying to rescue your dad. We cried together and I certainly felt your pain, as I still do. I know that your dad had a great day at Passion Island with you and your sister. My husband and I witnessed much laughter between you and your group. I hope you can carry those last memories with you always and cherish them. I can't imagine what you must be going thru now, but know that my prayers are still with you and I pray that you and your family get thru this tragic event. I am so sorry you had to witness this, but I hope in some small way you find comfort in knowing that you will never be out of my prayers. God bless you and your family.

The world is a better place because of people like you. I had no idea what to do to help so I just got out of the way. God bless you and I wish there were more people in this world like you.

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Some of you people need to show a little respect for the family. I was on the catamaran ten feet away from the guy when it happened. Very little of what I have seen on here is accurate. Most of it is completely wrong. If you don't know what your talking about, don't act like you do. Even the links to the articles are not accurate. Show some respect!

 

I do not see anyone here being disrespectful. It was a tragic event and other than one stupid post by RCCLRULES, everyone here has been very sympathetic to the family. You can't expect this type of event to not be discussed.

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My husband and I were on this excursion w/this family and I believe about 87 other people. I am writing this post in the event the daughter of the deceased somehow reads this at some point. I am the lady that stood on the pier with you and hugged and prayed with you as they were trying to rescue your dad. We cried together and I certainly felt your pain, as I still do. I know that your dad had a great day at Passion Island with you and your sister. My husband and I witnessed much laughter between you and your group. I hope you can carry those last memories with you always and cherish them. I can't imagine what you must be going thru now, but know that my prayers are still with you and I pray that you and your family get thru this tragic event. I am so sorry you had to witness this, but I hope in some small way you find comfort in knowing that you will never be out of my prayers. God bless you and your family.

 

Thank you for this touching post. You were certainly an asset to this grieving family.

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I do not see anyone here being disrespectful. It was a tragic event and other than one stupid post by RCCLRULES, everyone here has been very sympathetic to the family. You can't expect this type of event to not be discussed.

I think the poster is referring to people speculating that this man was drunk. It's really not appropriate to say things like 'well, I heard alcohol was invloved' when you don't have actual first hand knowledge of that or 'people need to take responsibility for when they drink' or whatever. IMO, of course. If that is what the poster was talking about then I agree with them. What a terrible tragedy for everyone involved. I can't imagine losing my Dad like that - awful! :(

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I do not see anyone here being disrespectful. It was a tragic event and other than one stupid post by RCCLRULES, everyone here has been very sympathetic to the family. You can't expect this type of event to not be discussed.

Most people are being very respectful. I have no problem with it being discussed. I have a problem with very inaccurate information and speculation being discussed. It was a horrible incident, one I wish I never saw so I can't even imagine how the family feels. I'm just getting irritated with the people who act like they know what happened when they really have no idea or have got inaccurate information from other people.

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