kellbellscruise Posted October 2, 2009 #226 Share Posted October 2, 2009 dang. ship happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planocruiser3 Posted October 2, 2009 #227 Share Posted October 2, 2009 "It's Royal...how ironic." :p LOL! I didn't catch that the first few times I watched it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niki M Posted October 2, 2009 #228 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I love cruising. I have never cruised with another line because I have always had good experiences with RCCL. We live in a world full of choices and all of those choices are available because we as human beings are not all the same. Imagine a world where no one had choices. In my world everyone would spend all of thier time drinking margaritas on the beach in Mexico. Oh, that is in my dream world. Work hard, play harder and love living life. Don't forget to relax a little and laugh a lot. I'm glad that there was not any bad damage to either ship and that we will all be able to go on the cruises we have booked. After reading all of these posts I am sure that there are a lot of people like me out there who really need thier vacation, BAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseREF Posted October 2, 2009 #229 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Yes, but you posted the pics to a public forum. There-by giving up all wrights to the photos. You gave all wrights to the forum owners. Not smart. Nothing like being the first one to post. Think before you post. Joan, If you "post" photographs on a public forum, you DO NOT give all rights to the forum owners. Especially when you have linked to the photograph located on another server. Know before you post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzincurt Posted October 2, 2009 #230 Share Posted October 2, 2009 A little bit of Bondo and some white paint. Good as new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted October 2, 2009 #231 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Is that picture real?Is it a photoshop picture? Or is RCCL's ship just that much bigger?:confused: You can only see the front half of the Carnival ship. How can you make any comparison of size from that photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted October 2, 2009 #232 Share Posted October 2, 2009 The war between Carnival and RCCL is terrible. Carnival is playing too rough when they try to sink our Battleship. Perhaps Carnival is trying to end the war by literally merging with RCCL. Carnival Royale? Roynival? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare silentbob007 Posted October 2, 2009 #233 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Put it to bed!!!Thank you Planocruiser3 for putting up the pictures! I can tell you... If someone puts pictures on Facebook, MySpace, etc... then they are fair game for rebroadcast. Trust me. If the owner of the photo wants to copyright them, then they have the option of putting a copyright directly on the photo (you'll see that sometimes - people put a "watermark" directly on the photo). Word to the wise - if you don't want it out there for the world to see, then don't put it out there for the world to see. This includes photos and what you say. I have 20+ years as a journalist. The media reprints pictures people put on their social network sites all the time. A recent example was the case of the Yale student who was brutally murdered just before her wedding. The photos of her that were broadcast all over the newstories about here came from her Facebook page. And everyone who said the media won't pay for photos is for the most part correct. Most REPUTABLE outlets won't pay, but will usually give photo credit. So Plano did right - he gave credit where credit was due, and did nothing wrong. Quit giving him/her grief! Just my educated 2 cents... now back to your regularly scheduled topic! You don't need to put a symbol on a picture to copyright it. The mere act of publishing or putting your creation into a tangible form copyrights it with a symbol or not. Now if you waive rights in the fine print by uploading to social networking OR we get into Fair Use issues, then we can have different arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseREF Posted October 2, 2009 #234 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Originally Posted by TexasAnn Put it to bed!!! Thank you Planocruiser3 for putting up the pictures! I can tell you... If someone puts pictures on Facebook, MySpace, etc... then they are fair game for rebroadcast. Trust me. If the owner of the photo wants to copyright them, then they have the option of putting a copyright directly on the photo (you'll see that sometimes - people put a "watermark" directly on the photo). Word to the wise - if you don't want it out there for the world to see, then don't put it out there for the world to see. This includes photos and what you say. I have 20+ years as a journalist. The media reprints pictures people put on their social network sites all the time. A recent example was the case of the Yale student who was brutally murdered just before her wedding. The photos of her that were broadcast all over the newstories about here came from her Facebook page. And everyone who said the media won't pay for photos is for the most part correct. Most REPUTABLE outlets won't pay, but will usually give photo credit. So Plano did right - he gave credit where credit was due, and did nothing wrong. Quit giving him/her grief! Just my educated 2 cents... now back to your regularly scheduled topic! You don't need to put a symbol on a picture to copyright it. The mere act of publishing or putting your creation into a tangible form copyrights it with a symbol or not. Now if you waive rights in the fine print by uploading to social networking OR we get into Fair Use issues, then we can have different arguments. Sorry TexasAnn, I don't agree with you here. "I can tell you... If someone puts pictures on Facebook, MySpace, etc... then they are fair game for rebroadcast. Trust me." So if Royal Caribbean has photographs / images on their Facebook page I can take them and rebroadcast them as I like? Including their logo? Sorry - no can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thameth Posted October 2, 2009 #235 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Joan,If you "post" photographs on a public forum, you DO NOT give all rights to the forum owners. Especially when you have linked to the photograph located on another server. Know before you post. As a photographer myself this post is completely correct. Just because you post something in a public forum does NOT mean you give away your copyright to the image. Same as if I were to write a novel and post it online it doesn't mean its open season for anybody else to take that novel and print it themselves and make money off of it, the writer still retains full copyright of his work. There is waaaaaaay too much misinformation going around about copyright these days, especially when it comes to photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thameth Posted October 2, 2009 #236 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Will the Enchantment be docking in Miami or Ft. Lauderdale tmrw? If its Miami I may be able to get some photo's of the damage depending on how she docks... If its Ft. Lauderdale then its doubtful..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAPaige Posted October 2, 2009 #237 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Will the Enchantment be docking in Miami or Ft. Lauderdale tmrw? If its Miami I may be able to get some photo's of the damage depending on how she docks... If its Ft. Lauderdale then its doubtful..... Fort Lauderdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moochy one Posted October 2, 2009 #238 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Carnival Royale? Roynival? More like Carnival with Royal as a subsidiary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Cruizers Posted October 2, 2009 #239 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Big Ships, little Ships, size doesn't matter, they are all subject to an accident. Heard about this accident on our Calif thread yesterday, some damage to the bow, railing and windows on RCL, but both will continue on to Balize and finish their Cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchips14 Posted October 2, 2009 #240 Share Posted October 2, 2009 So this is why everyone brings a roll of duct tape, just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMT Posted October 2, 2009 #241 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Remember the Brilliance a few years ago? Just a 'little' gust of wind?!!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcruz Posted October 2, 2009 #242 Share Posted October 2, 2009 So this is why everyone brings a roll of duct tape, just in case. :eek: Love it!!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snausman Posted October 2, 2009 #243 Share Posted October 2, 2009 So this is why everyone brings a roll of duct tape, just in case. So thats why I pack it, I forgot but thanks for reminding me.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurelius180 Posted October 2, 2009 #244 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Remember the Brilliance a few years ago? Just a 'little' gust of wind?!!:D Pretty crazy footage! :eek: Thanks for posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted October 2, 2009 #245 Share Posted October 2, 2009 So this is why everyone brings a roll of duct tape, just in case. No, mostly they bring it for far less important reasons.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzincurt Posted October 2, 2009 #246 Share Posted October 2, 2009 So this is why everyone brings a roll of duct tape, just in case. ....and a bungee cord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted October 2, 2009 #247 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Actually Philip, I have to jump on to back up what TexasAnn said: "I can tell you... If someone puts pictures on Facebook, MySpace, etc... then they are fair game for rebroadcast. Trust me." This is totally correct, even though you do have copyright priviledges, when you sign a contract with Facebook or Myspace, it gives them the exclusive rights to "ALL", read it and weep, all of the information you put into your account, i.e. for their use. Sez so in the contract...my DH is an IT tech and he knows first hand that this is absolutely true. And this has been reported on major news networks as well. I am not allowed to even visit those particular blogs because of the inherant problems and sniffing programs associated with them. Too dangerous! You'd have to go through some really hairy litigation to try to uphold your copyright because of your signature on their contract. He'd prefer it if I never visited YouTube as well, but I sneak peak it anyway. He has to rebuild systems on a weekly basis when users go to these sites. They contract PC viruses like the common cold. Here is a link to prove what we are saying: http://media.www.smithsophian.com/media/storage/paper587/news/2009/02/26/Opinions/Facebook.Under.Fire.For.Contract.Changes-3650403.shtml It comments on the legal problems with their contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrotthead Posted October 2, 2009 #248 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Dont know if this has been posted or not...but here is the link to John Healds Blog, he is a CD for Carnival and was on the Legend when it "touched" the Enchantment....(which I will be on in 2 weeks) ;) Its about 1/2 way down and has pictures. http://johnhealdsblog.com/2009/10/01/a-touching-blog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseREF Posted October 2, 2009 #249 Share Posted October 2, 2009 You don't need to put a symbol on a picture to copyright it. The mere act of publishing or putting your creation into a tangible form copyrights it with a symbol or not. Now if you waive rights in the fine print by uploading to social networking OR we get into Fair Use issues, then we can have different arguments. Actually Philip, I have to jump on to back up what TexasAnn said:"I can tell you... If someone puts pictures on Facebook, MySpace, etc... then they are fair game for rebroadcast. Trust me." This is totally correct, even though you do have copyright priviledges, when you sign a contract with Facebook or Myspace, it gives them the exclusive rights to "ALL", read it and weep, all of the information you put into your account, i.e. for their use. Sez so in the contract...my DH is an IT tech and he knows first hand that this is absolutely true. And this has been reported on major news networks as well. I am not allowed to even visit those particular blogs because of the inherant problems and sniffing programs associated with them. Too dangerous! You'd have to go through some really hairy litigation to try to uphold your copyright because of your signature on their contract. He'd prefer it if I never visited YouTube as well, but I sneak peak it anyway. He has to rebuild systems on a weekly basis when users go to these sites. They contract PC viruses like the common cold. Here is a link to prove what we are saying: http://media.www.smithsophian.com/media/storage/paper587/news/2009/02/26/Opinions/Facebook.Under.Fire.For.Contract.Changes-3650403.shtml It comments on the legal problems with their contract. Hi BecciBoo, Firstly, I’m sorry to everyone for hi-jacking this informative thread... Thank you for the time to respond to me. I am aware of the privacy issues on social networks. I am certainly not a lawyer and do not have all the knowledge on copyright infringement. Hopefully a professional in this field can advise. As far as I know, and according to the link posted, we are talking about two different things. The issue you are referring to relates to privacy, not copyright or trademark. Certainly there are copyright elements involved in their vastly detailed contract, but I believe that there are copyright and trademark laws that will not be affected by the fact that the material is found on a social network. Whether I found a piece of paper on the street displaying a Coke logo on it, or "finding" a Coke logo on the internet (Coke's website or Coke's Facebook page) it does not give me the permission to do with it whatever I want. That logo is copyrighted. It is a trademark. If what you are saying is true, then Facebook or anyone else visiting it can take the Coke logo found on the social network and start producing a Cola marketing the Cola with the Coke logo they found online. This is a very complex subject matter but if there is one thing I would advise to our Cruise Critic friends it would be that you DO NOT have the right to use someone else’s work without their permission, not do you magically obtain the right by simply finding the work online. Finding it on a social network or any other location does not make you the owner. The FBI is arresting people that downloads movies and music off of a social network. It is illegal. It doesn’t give you permission to have it nor share or sell (re-distribute) it for profit or non-profit by downloading the content from a social network. I’m sure there are some grey areas which people will point out to us, but ultimately this is what I believe. No hard feelings. I’m sure our discussion is for the best of interest to our fellow Cruise Critic friends. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1cruisedoggie Posted October 2, 2009 #250 Share Posted October 2, 2009 The comment was directed to the Carni's and not you. ;) Thanks for the pics!! :D Nice signiture, we must think alike, I am also from Taxachusetts, born in Cambridge, lived in Canton. See ya,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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