Back to the Class System

[cruiseknots]

Actually not. I see a bunch of people worrying about what someone else is receiving in place of worrying about themselves. This is no different that the clothes police worrying about someone wearing jeans to the dining room. :rolleyes:

 

I have to disagree. If you had taken the time to read the posts, you would see there seems to be a common theme here. It's not about what the suite guests are getting, it's what is being taken away from non suite guest that they once had.

 

I have stated twice already that I have no problems with suite guests getting extra perks. But when it infringes upon the rest of the guests, then it can be a bit irritating to them. If RCI wants to add perks for the suite guests, then add them. But don't take away from the non suite guest in order to do it.

 

My problem with this whole thing is that they have taken away many of the diamond benefits and at the same time added to suite benefits.

[PhoenixCruiser]

Actually not. I see a bunch of people worrying about what someone else is receiving in place of worrying about themselves. This is no different that the clothes police worrying about someone wearing jeans to the dining room. :rolleyes:

 

 

agree with you 100%!:p

 

G, like PH8, we agree 100% :)

 

Several people on this thread are complaining about the loss of "public" areas when they haven't even been on a cruise with the new benefits to see for themselves. The reserved areas are really not that special :confused:

 

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[Cruising89143]

I have to disagree. If you had taken the time to read the posts, you would see there seems to be a common theme here. It's not about what the suite guests are getting, it's what is being taken away from non suite guest that they once had.

 

I have stated twice already that I have no problems with suite guests getting extra perks. But when it infringes upon the rest of the guests, then it can be a bit irritating to them. If RCI wants to add perks for the suite guests, then add them. But don't take away from the non suite guest in order to do it.

 

My problem with this whole thing is that they have taken away many of the diamond benefits and at the same time added to suite benefits.

 

Nothing is being taken away as there are plenty of deck chairs to sit in and your last statement says it all. It is about Diamond cut backs and I have a news flash for you, those suite perks are not free.

[BND]

Forget it. I deleted my post because it's just not worth the argument. Let's just say we do book suites precisely because they come with amenities. I live in a capitalist society, not a socialist one.

[lcguy]

Well, yes, you certainly did. I was saying if someone told me, "You can sit there but if a suite guest wants the chair, you have to move," I would do it. Since that's NOT the case, I DON'T sit there.

Don't you get it? You shouldn't be there to begin with... and as you've stated, after a few drinks you wouldn't care it they sat on you. Real classy.

[lcguy]

Forget it. I deleted my post because it's just not worth the argument. Let's just say we do book suites precisely because they come with amenities. I live in a capitalist society, not a socialist one.

We have a winner here! Yay. Seriously, let's not spread the wealth.

[mehitabel]

Don't you get it? You shouldn't be there to begin with... and as you've stated, after a few drinks you wouldn't care it they sat on you. Real classy.

 

Preeeetty sure that's not what she meant. She KNOWS she shouldn't be there--her point was that nobody offered it and she wasn't going to just up and do it.

 

As for the "sitting on" part--there's this thing called, humor, see, and when people want to be funny, they use it. Usually it works pretty well.

[compman9]

Couldn't agree more - I was looking at trying out the Epic, but they virtually have a separate ship within a ship to themselves.

 

A roped off area is one thing, but come on...

[madforcruising]

Couldn't agree more - I was looking at trying out the Epic, but they virtually have a separate ship within a ship to themselves.

 

A roped off area is one thing, but come on...

 

 

But that´s exactly what people on here are asking for - Give the Suite passengers their own areas that are not taken from the "public" areas.

[madforcruising]

My problem with this whole thing is that they have taken away many of the diamond benefits and at the same time added to suite benefits.

 

 

So the suite benefits as they are would have been fine if at the same time the diamond benefits would have stayed put? Or if the Diamond benefits would have faced the same increased benefits like the suites?

 

Folks are you still trying to sell me the idea it´s not about what one person gets but not the other;):rolleyes: Can I buy that ocean front property in Arizona as well?

[madforcruising]

 

The suites were full in the past without perks. Why should I think that today's suite passengers would drop down to less expensive rooms if the new perks were to disappear?

 

I fully agree with you that the suites filled up in the past without those perks.

I even agree with you that todays suite passengers might not drop to less expensive rooms if the new perks disappeared.

But there´s plenty of competitors out there and many of them offer much more to their suite passengers and it´s been a long time complaint with RCI that their suites won´t give you much more than a bigger room for that enormous price difference.

I believe that RCI had to do something to stay competitive on the playing field with other lines. I don´t care much for NCL, but I keep reading how great their suite experience is. Now the problem for me is their suites are on their ships;). But their might be the point reached one day where the expanded suite experience might outweigh the rest and the people tend to rather have the better suite experience.

Don´t forget RCI needs those expensive rooms filled more than anything else. There´s less a problem for them to sail with 10 empty insides opposed to 10 empty suites (and with empty I mean not filled with full price paying passengers and not with only not being empty because people were upgraded or got it at highly discounted prices).

 

I think we might see even more suite perks in the future, whatever kind they are. This first step might have not work best, but from reading posts on this boards (not especially on this thread) many suite passengers, though not all, like those perks, regardless if they actually use them or not. And don´t forget these perks cost them next to nothing.

[spongerob]

Couldn't agree more - I was looking at trying out the Epic, but they virtually have a separate ship within a ship to themselves.

 

A roped off area is one thing, but come on...

You've never been on a plane with First a/o Business Class? Or a hotel with Concierge floors? Or even a ballpark?

 

All the things you envy are available to you, if you are willing to pay. There are no other restrictions than that and that's why "class" doesn't come into play. It's just about what you are willing to pay for. You still go the same places, arrive at the same time, and see the same game.

[Ocean Boy]

Okay but only if I'm allowed to smoke in said corner!

 

Yeah, you can smoke but don't forget the agreed upon rule for the pool.:mad:

[Captain Jake]

I have to disagree. If you had taken the time to read the posts, you would see there seems to be a common theme here. It's not about what the suite guests are getting, it's what is being taken away from non suite guest that they once had.

 

I have stated twice already that I have no problems with suite guests getting extra perks. But when it infringes upon the rest of the guests, then it can be a bit irritating to them. If RCI wants to add perks for the suite guests, then add them. But don't take away from the non suite guest in order to do it.

 

My problem with this whole thing is that they have taken away many of the diamond benefits and at the same time added to suite benefits.

 

Excellent,This post hit a home run

:cj

[lcguy]

You've never been on a plane with First a/o Business Class? Or a hotel with Concierge floors? Or even a ballpark?

 

All the things you envy are available to you, if you are willing to pay. There are no other restrictions than that and that's why "class" doesn't come into play. It's just about what you are willing to pay for. You still go the same places, arrive at the same time, and see the same game.

Can not agree more. Loyalty programs, pay to play... it's all about providing your higher revenue customers additional benefits.

 

Perhaps the solution here is gut the suites, take away the balconies and we can all sail in the same category cabin, take away choices on the menus and we can all run with the herd? Sounds pretty socialistic to me. :rolleyes:

[Mark_K]

Actually not. I see a bunch of people worrying about what someone else is receiving in place of worrying about themselves. This is no different that the clothes police worrying about someone wearing jeans to the dining room. :rolleyes:

Nothing has changed for me, I will do as I always have - be proactive.

 

If getting a "good" lounger is important to me, I get up early and get one. Most days it isn't and I sit wherever I can find one, but there have been days that it was and I did.

 

If getting a "good" seat at the ice show or the theater is important to me, I get there early and get one. I usually show up 20 minutes before the show, but if I don't, I sit wherever there's seating and realize the reason I didn't get a good seat was me and not the people in suites..

 

I suppose I could sit around and whine and lament my sad situation, not change what I do, and get lousy seats -or- I could deal with it. I prefer the latter, it seems like a lot of people here prefer the former.

[Ocean Boy]

Can not agree more. Loyalty programs, pay to play... it's all about providing your higher revenue customers additional benefits.

 

Perhaps the solution here is gut the suites, take away the balconies and we can all sail in the same category cabin, take away choices on the menus and we can all run with the herd? Sounds pretty socialistic to me. :rolleyes:

We all better start getting used to it.:( Maybe in the future we will go on cruises so, for at least a week, we can relieve the good old days of capitalism that some of us have a longing for already.

[Hypo]

But that´s exactly what people on here are asking for - Give the Suite passengers their own areas that are not taken from the "public" areas.

 

If they were to do this, where do you suppose they would get the areas to create the "private suite areas".

 

On all of the current ships, the new areas would have to come from already existing "public" areas.

[Hypo]

Celebrity Solstice offered one of the best suite benefits we have ever seen. Two evening of complimentary dinners in the specialty restaurant of our choice.

 

We even got dinner in Murano, one evening, on the Infinity a few weeks ago.

[lcguy]

Celebrity Solstice offered one of the best suite benefits we have ever seen. Two evening of complimentary dinners in the specialty restaurant of our choice.

 

We even got dinner in Murano, one evening, on the Infinity a few weeks ago.

Nice bennies. :)

 

But see... according to some people, why should someone in a suite get a complimentary dinner while they have to pay $20 or $25? That would be taking something from them. :rolleyes:

[Cruising89143]

I believe that RCI had to do something to stay competitive on the playing field with other lines. I don´t care much for NCL, but I keep reading how great their suite experience is. Now the problem for me is their suites are on their ships;). But their might be the point reached one day where the expanded suite experience might outweigh the rest and the people tend to rather have the better suite experience.

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You're 100% correct and even with the recent additions that RCI has added, they still do not come close to that of HAL or NCL. The items that RCI added did not cost them any additional dollars. I have always stated that if one books a suite on RCI it's due to the larger cabin and not much else. Right now I prefer the overall RCI experince over that of HAL or NCL and that's what keeps me coming back.

[lcguy]

You're 100% correct and even with the recent additions that RCI has added, they still do not come close to that of HAL or NCL. The items that RCI added did not cost them any additional dollars. I have always stated that if one books a suite on RCI it's due to the larger cabin and not much else. Right now I prefer the overall RCI experince over that of HAL or NCL and that's what keeps me coming back.

Agreed... and ironically, you pay more on a price per square foot basis in the suites as well.

 

And by the way... go Gators! (and sad that we're not in the BCS championship game)

[Cruising89143]

Agreed... and ironically, you pay more on a price per square foot basis in the suites as well.

 

And by the way... go Gators! (and sad that we're not in the BCS championship game)

 

Thanks. Can't win em all. Two out of the last three is not so bad though.:)

[xpcdoojk]

I live in a capitalist society, not a socialist one.

 

I am sorry, you must have been on a long cruise. I think the society has changed 180 degrees while you were gone.;)

 

jc:D

[Mark_K]

Celebrity Solstice offered one of the best suite benefits we have ever seen. Two evening of complimentary dinners in the specialty restaurant of our choice.

 

We even got dinner in Murano, one evening, on the Infinity a few weeks ago.

How dare they do that? Don't they realize that the specialty restaurants are public areas, and if all the reservations gets filled with suite guests, they're denying the regular passengers the right to eat there? As part of their crusie fare, those passengers paid for the right to spend money in the specialty restaurants, and they used to have no problem doing so. These suite perks are completely out of hand.