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Not sure why you say that.....our group actually thought that there was too much smoke coming from the bars in the promenade on Oasis at times.

 

On the Royal Promenade smoking is only allowed at 2 tables on the right hand side of Boleros...and up near the bar in the Schooner bar which isnt on the RP technically and that is it in the RP area. I wonder where your group would be getting the smoke from :confused:

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On the Royal Promenade smoking is only allowed at 2 tables on the right hand side of Boleros...and up near the bar in the Schooner bar which isnt on the RP technically and that is it in the RP area. I wonder where your group would be getting the smoke from :confused:

I didn't know this Liz and quite honestly, I thought you could smoke anywhere in Boleros as well as anywhere in Schooners because I smelled it as soon as I walked in these places. Maybe I'm just uber sensitive to smoke (I was a 14 year smoker too) but I do feel they need to do something better to get rid of the smell in these areas. Of course, I have no idea what that could be.

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I didn't know this Liz and quite honestly, I thought you could smoke anywhere in Boleros as well as anywhere in Schooners because I smelled it as soon as I walked in these places. .

 

I thought so too. We tried to sit in the Schooner bar one evening but I just couldn't take the smoke; it was horrible. I didn't survey the crowd but I would find it hard to believe smoking was limited to a certain area there. The casino wasn't even as bad as the Schooner.

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I thought so too. We tried to sit in the Schooner bar one evening but I just couldn't take the smoke; it was horrible. I didn't survey the crowd but I would find it hard to believe smoking was limited to a certain area there. The casino wasn't even as bad as the Schooner.

 

In Schooner bar..smokers could sit at the high seats which look down on the royal promenade and at the tables to the left of them and at the tables next to the bar.

There were not many ashtrays there..in fact I got shouted at and verbal abuse when I moved an ashtray on a table nearer to me when standing watching the parade up there. You would have thought I was stealing a prized possesion.:eek:

 

Casino has a smoking and a non smoking side. I was peeved one night when in the smoking section while sitting playing machine a woman waved her hand at me because I was having a ciggie. She didnt want to go to non smoking section because her favourite machine was in the smoking section :rolleyes:

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In Schooner bar..smokers could sit at the high seats which look down on the royal promenade and at the tables to the left of them and at the tables next to the bar.

There were not many ashtrays there..in fact I got shouted at and verbal abuse when I moved an ashtray on a table nearer to me when standing watching the parade up there. You would have thought I was stealing a prized possesion.:eek:

 

Casino has a smoking and a non smoking side. I was peeved one night when in the smoking section while sitting playing machine a woman waved her hand at me because I was having a ciggie. She didnt want to go to non smoking section because her favourite machine was in the smoking section :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, there are a lot of Americans trying to take their 'local' anti smoking laws with them when they travel, forgetting they are traveling to countries and places that allow smoking. That woman's behavior is what my mother would have called 'boorish'. ;)

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On the Royal Promenade smoking is only allowed at 2 tables on the right hand side of Boleros...and up near the bar in the Schooner bar which isnt on the RP technically and that is it in the RP area. I wonder where your group would be getting the smoke from :confused:[/quote

Although smoking is suppose to be limited to an area in Boleros the smoke is so horrible that you can smell it in the Promenade. Last Sunday we watched the football game in the Promenade, just in front of "On the Air" and you can smell the smoke there. We loved Boleros on the IOS but we couldnt go there on the Oasis because the smoke was really bad. We talked to some officials on a private party that the Captain had for suite guests and they are aware that the smoke in the Promenade is a problem. We also questioned the fact that the activities director scheduled all the dancing classes in Boleros. Our children wanted to go to the "Michael Jackson's dance lessons", but again, the smoke made it impossible for us to enjoy it. We went one night to Boleros and I just couldn't believe how many people were there with really young children (infants and todlers). I also saw a pregnant woman there. I guess that if they don't care about their health, their children's health and their unborn children's health, they won't care about mine.

I also think that RCCL is a little hypocritical about their smoking policy. This is suppose to be a "family" cruiseline and we couldn't enjoy some "family activities" because the smoke was so horrible. RCCL also likes to sell themselves as a "healthy cruiseline" with their "vitality program", the new "juice bar" on the spa area and the "solarium bistro", if they really care so much about a healthy lifestyle, smoking shouldnt be allowed on the RP.

I also have to question how much RCCL cares about their staff's health. All that smoke is not healthy.

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On the Royal Promenade smoking is only allowed at 2 tables on the right hand side of Boleros...and up near the bar in the Schooner bar which isnt on the RP technically and that is it in the RP area. I wonder where your group would be getting the smoke from :confused:[/quote

Although smoking is suppose to be limited to an area in Boleros the smoke is so horrible that you can smell it in the Promenade. Last Sunday we watched the football game in the Promenade, just in front of "On the Air" and you can smell the smoke there. We loved Boleros on the IOS but we couldnt go there on the Oasis because the smoke was really bad. We talked to some officials on a private party that the Captain had for suite guests and they are aware that the smoke in the Promenade is a problem. We also questioned the fact that the activities director scheduled all the dancing classes in Boleros. Our children wanted to go to the "Michael Jackson's dance lessons", but again, the smoke made it impossible for us to enjoy it. We went one night to Boleros and I just couldn't believe how many people were there with really young children (infants and todlers). I also saw a pregnant woman there. I guess that if they don't care about their health, their children's health and their unborn children's health, they won't care about mine.

I also think that RCCL is a little hypocritical about their smoking policy. This is suppose to be a "family" cruiseline and we couldn't enjoy some "family activities" because the smoke was so horrible. RCCL also likes to sell themselves as a "healthy cruiseline" with their "vitality program", the new "juice bar" on the spa area and the "solarium bistro", if they really care so much about a healthy lifestyle, smoking shouldnt be allowed on the RP.

I also have to question how much RCCL cares about their staff's health. All that smoke is not healthy.

Doesn't the majority of crew members on ALL ships smoke? The cruise industry is far behind the strides land based companies have made regarding health and wellness issues in the workplace. Maybe when they join the 21st Century, their ships will no longer tolerate smoking. I'd give it another 20 years. :D

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I also have to question how much RCCL cares about their staff's health. All that smoke is not healthy.

 

 

In Boleros on a few nights it was impossible to find a smoking table because the staff monopolized two of the three smoking tables making one big table.

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Just going to add my $.02 worth: Bolero's and Schooners were both so smoky as to be off limits for us, especially Boleros. The smoke did carry onto the Promenade from Bolers. Too bad because it is a beautiful venue. We had to meet there for our Ft Lauderdale tour at the end of the cruise, and it was so smoky that we were in the Promenade and almost missed the announcement that our tour was leaving. With all the technologic advances on Oasis, surely they could come up with better smoke control.

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Just going to add my $.02 worth: Bolero's and Schooners were both so smoky as to be off limits for us, especially Boleros. The smoke did carry onto the Promenade from Bolers. Too bad because it is a beautiful venue. We had to meet there for our Ft Lauderdale tour at the end of the cruise, and it was so smoky that we were in the Promenade and almost missed the announcement that our tour was leaving. With all the technologic advances on Oasis, surely they could come up with better smoke control.

We complained and I know that most of our friends did too. I'm also waiting for RCCL online survey to give them my $.02. We were told that RCCL ran out of options for their smoking areas. Central Park can't be a smoking area because it is a fire hazard, the Boardwalk is a family area and having the "jogging track" on deck 5 left them with few options. I still think that they didn't design the area to have good smoke control.

Rob, on the first day of the cruise one of our bags was taken to security because we had a small travel iron and it was considered a fire hazard. If they are so concern about fire hazards why they let people smoke on their balconies? And by the way, every staff member that we talked about this problem told us that they didn't smoke and will love to have a smoke free ship.

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In Boleros on a few nights it was impossible to find a smoking table because the staff monopolized two of the three smoking tables making one big table.

There is a difference between crew members and staff members. I don't think that bar tenders and waiters can go to passangers areas to socialize.

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Unfortunately, there are a lot of Americans trying to take their 'local' anti smoking laws with them when they travel, forgetting they are traveling to countries and places that allow smoking. That woman's behavior is what my mother would have called 'boorish'. ;)

The Oasis sails from Florida, an american state. Our last cruise was the IOS, sailing from Southampton and we didnt experienced the smoke problems that we had on the Oasis. The problem with the Oasis is that smoke from Boleros carries onto the Promenade, they didn't design the bar with a good ventilation system. We were told that the decission to make Boleros a smoking area was made after the ship was built.

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There is a difference between crew members and staff members. I don't think that bar tenders and waiters can go to passangers areas to socialize.

Crew members of a certain amount of stripes are allowed to use the public areas, but I have no idea what that protocol is for Royal. Years ago on Princess it was 2.5 stripes and higher were allowed to use the public areas.

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There is no such thing as "better ventilation" for smoke. You can blow it around, but the carcinogens and chemicals remain. Thus the minority (smokers) pollute the air for everyone. Prioncess does a MUCH better job at confining smoke in public areas. It's a shame that little kids get exposed walking on the Promenade. I think it should be allowed ONLY outside. Don't give me that anti- American crap either. France, Scotland,England, Ireland, Hong Kong, New Zealand.....come on....there are entire countries with indoor smoking bans. Almost all of Canada as well. Smoking is not meant to be an indoor activity.Neither is shooting darts randomly in a room of people.

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I consider myself to be a responsible smoker, in that when i'm on my balcony i use a soda can to contain my cigarette after i'm finished and yes it has water in it to ensure that it is out. When I'm out enjoying my night I do like to smoke while i'm at the bar, but again I try to be mindful of the people around and limit how much i smoke. I understand both sides of the battle here, but some people can be down right rude and I have encountered that while out on the balcony, again being mindful if something is said to me in a calm manner I would honor other peoples wishes, so they to can enjoy time outside on the balcony they paid for, but you come at me like i'm a criminal and guess what I will listen for everytime you come out and I will light up just to make a point.

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Agreed. I really enjoyed spending time at the Schooner Bar on other ships but only went there once when on the Oasis. The smoke at the casino was also very bad when there were a lot of people there, which helped to keep me away.

 

I thought so too. We tried to sit in the Schooner bar one evening but I just couldn't take the smoke; it was horrible. I didn't survey the crowd but I would find it hard to believe smoking was limited to a certain area there. The casino wasn't even as bad as the Schooner.
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I consider myself to be a responsible smoker, in that when i'm on my balcony i use a soda can to contain my cigarette after i'm finished and yes it has water in it to ensure that it is out. When I'm out enjoying my night I do like to smoke while i'm at the bar, but again I try to be mindful of the people around and limit how much i smoke. I understand both sides of the battle here, but some people can be down right rude and I have encountered that while out on the balcony, again being mindful if something is said to me in a calm manner I would honor other peoples wishes, so they to can enjoy time outside on the balcony they paid for, but you come at me like i'm a criminal and guess what I will listen for everytime you come out and I will light up just to make a point.

Brian: Is good to know that there are responsible smokers, I'm never rude to smokers, I just avoid venues where smoking is allowed because the smoke makes me sick. The problem with the Oasis is that the smoke from Boleros carries onto the Promenade and I did have a problem with that. As a responsible smoker, do you think that RCCL should plan entertainment family activities on a smoking venue?? Do you think that smokers with infant children are responsible when they take their children to Boleros? or do you think that pregnant women are acting in a responsible way when they go to a place like Boleros on the Oasis? or do you think that there is no problem with having smoke in the Promenade? We will be D+ on our next RCCL and this is the first time that I felt the need to complaint about the smoking. I'm glad I did and I expect everyone that goes to the Oasis and is troubled by the smoke to do the same.

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Agreed. I really enjoyed spending time at the Schooner Bar on other ships but only went there once when on the Oasis. The smoke at the casino was also very bad when there were a lot of people there, which helped to keep me away.

One of our friends was a VIP Casino guest at the Oasis. He is a former smoker and was also troubled by all the smoke in the Casino, he felt that it was worst than other RCCL ship's casinos. I never go to the Casinos because I don't like all the smoke, but I was surprised in a positive way when we went to Nassau and the Casino at Atlantis didn't smell like people were smoking there. By the way, some casinos in San Juan, Puerto Rico are also going smoke free.

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As a smoker I do agree that Boleros located along the Promenade is a stupid place to allow smoking and there are other bars that are better suited to allow smoking. The Schooner is in a great location since it is not really a thru way like on other ships, smoking is allowed at the first 2 tables closest to the bar, the seats along the railing overlooking the Promenade and the bar itself. However I do understand that non-smokers who want to play trivia or listen to the piano player should not have to breath my smoke. They need to have a bar that has access to the open decks so that smokers can step outside and have a quick smoke I can live with that.

I too am a considerate smoker but some people just know how to push the buttons. A few years back we were on the Majesty, I was sitting at the Schooner bar one evening at 10:30 pm, now keep in mind half the bar is smoking and the other half is non-smoking. This women puts here 5 year old child in the stool next to me and says “Excuse me but I want you to put that cigarette out immediately while my child is here” I said excuse me but this is no place for your underage child to be. She then tells me that I am an A**hole and she will get her husband to come & straighten me out. Ok, bring it on! so I put out the cig and I light up another one, she is now in a rant about inconsiderate smokers and how it is affecting her child’s health. Well I had about enough and I said lady, you bring your kid to a smoking bar late at night and you have a trash mouth on top of that who is the real A**hole here? Never saw her again the rest of the cruise.

Ron :)

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