Do men really hate wearing suits?

[kcordova]

The suit debate seems greater than the everlong smoking debate. Relax and loosen up the tie, will ya!!!

 

Its ok to have a preference. Even some of the great dining establishments around the world will have a smart casual dress code and not require a suit or a tux.

 

My opinion is the floor should be lowered to allow smart casual. Guess what, if you want to wear a suit, a tux, or something in between go for it!!!! I love choices.

[Ma Bell]

AMEN! I could not have said it better. You can have it your way, even at Mickey D's!!!;)

 

 

They might as well make the restaurants on board Mickey D's too since everyone will be appropriately dressed for their dining experience.;)

[alfiemom]

Good, Joanie!

 

Doesn't this subject matter get old? We could probably have an entire website based strictly on all the "dress" threads on this site.....no matter what the ship is.

 

Guess that's why there are choices in this industry. Long live choices!

 

Bobbie

[We're The Groupnors]

Believe it or not, people choose Celebrity for reasons OTHER than the formal dress code, maybe despite it. We have no intention of chosing another cruise line. If Celebrity changed the dress code in any way, would you go with another line that has the formal nights?

 

Yes, we probably would consider switching cruise lines if Celebrity no longer offered formal nights. For us, formal nights on our cruises is one of the things that differentiates this type of vacation from, say, an all inclusive resort. We would never choose Oceania Crusies as they do not offer formal nights, though we are told every other aspect of cruising with them is either at par or above Celebrity. Personal choice, we realize, but there are alternatives for those who don't like formal nights.

[annierie]

Maybe you are getting too carried away. You still have to dress every night so you still need slacks, shirts, socks, belt and shoes on those nights. Suit coat is same as sport jacket as far as space is concerned. Please don't tell me your DH would just wear the same clothes on formal nights as he does every other night.

 

I think you just don't get it, or are you being deliberately confrontational.

 

My DH's pinstripe suit jacket doesn't go with anything other than his suit. He can't wear the jacket with other slacks during our vacations. That means he also would have to bring a sports jacket along, unless he wished to wear his suit all over Greece and Turkey in September, looking completely ridiculous and not dressing for the climate.

 

We recently completed a week's trip to Chicago. He took his blazer, and grey slacks for dress, khakis and cream colored slacks for those times he wasn't in cargo shorts.

 

He could wear the jacket with golf shirts, dress shirts, or silk tee shirts, with any of the pants. A suit is not versatile.

 

Like Julia, my DH's suit is heavy. With all the accessories including the dress shoes, it weighs 8 pounds.

 

We can mix and match with the blazer much better than carrying a suit to wear once or twice for three hours.

[thecruiser7]

Celebrity does not have semi-formal nights, only casual and formal. It is unlikely that you will see men with jackets on casual nights unless they are cold.

 

OK...I've got to ask.....This is our first time to sail Celebrity.....

What type of clothes are expected in the dinning rooms on casual nights?

Can you wear shorts without getting the, I don't believe it look?

What type of clothes are expected in the dinning rooms on formal nights?

Can you wear slacks?

 

Most ships have at least 2 formal dinning rooms......

Why not allow shorts, etc. in one & slacks, suits, etc. in the other?

 

We normally bypass the formal dinning rooms completely because we rather not dress up. Is this fair.........I don't think so......

 

My opinion.........

If you want to dress up on vacation....fine...Do it.........

Just don't force it on everyone. It's not everyone's cup of tea....

[chipmaster]

I have never asked my DW to wear anything that isn't comfortable, she looks good in any anything and everything to me. I don't believe she has heels or hasn't worn them for 20 years or so, nor would I want her to :D

 

 

Love how this thread went :eek:

 

LOL....you men have NO idea what we go through to look good for you...I see your uncomfortable clothing and raise you one pair of high heels! :D

Edited August 4, 2010 by chipmaster

[dexter99]

 

OK...I've got to ask.....This is our first time to sail Celebrity.....

What type of clothes are expected in the dinning rooms on casual nights?

Can you wear shorts without getting the, I don't believe it look?

What type of clothes are expected in the dinning rooms on formal nights?

Can you wear slacks?

 

Most ships have at least 2 formal dinning rooms......

Why not allow shorts, etc. in one & slacks, suits, etc. in the other?

 

We normally bypass the formal dinning rooms completely because we rather not dress up. Is this fair.........I don't think so......

 

My opinion.........

If you want to dress up on vacation....fine...Do it.........

Just don't force it on everyone. It's not everyone's cup of tea....

Shorts are not allowed in the dining room at night.

 

You choose not to go to the formal dining room because you don't want to dress formally, and don't think that is fair. Hmmm...not sure i get the logic there.

 

No one forces anyone to dress up on vacation. There are millions of ways to have a vacation that doesn't require it - camping, for example. THe way I see it, if someone chooses to take a cruise, they are committing to all that entails. If they don't want to do that, take a different kind of vacation.

Edited August 4, 2010 by dexter99

[We're The Groupnors]

Shorts are not allowed in the dining room at night.

 

You choose not to go to the formal dining room because you don't want to dress formally, and don't think that is fair. Hmmm...not sure i get the logic there.

 

No one forces anyone to dress up on vacation. There are millions of ways to have a vacation that doesn't require it - camping, for example. THe way I see it, if someone chooses to take a cruise, they are committing to all that entails. If they don't want to do that, take a different kind of vacation.

 

We agree wholeheartedly! You wouldn't show up at an Italian restaurant and expect them to serve you Sushi; you'd go to a sushi restaurant! So why do people who hate dressing up insist on going to the main dining room on formal nights? Choose an alternate restaurant that allows casual dress, or another cruise line that never requires you to dress up. Personally, we don't care what other people wear, but definitely enjoy dressing up ourselves. If you either dress up to fit in, but hate it, or don't dress up and feel like you're being judged that cannot make for a very enjoyable vacation.

[dkjretired]

Shorts are not allowed in the dining room at night.

 

You choose not to go to the formal dining room because you don't want to dress formally, and don't think that is fair. Hmmm...not sure i get the logic there.

 

No one forces anyone to dress up on vacation. There are millions of ways to have a vacation that doesn't require it - camping, for example. THe way I see it, if someone chooses to take a cruise, they are committing to all that entails. If they don't want to do that, take a different kind of vacation.

 

Celebrity does not have two formal dining rooms on any of their ships, on the first night you will see shorts but after that you will probably not be allowed into the dining room.

Edited August 4, 2010 by dkjretired

[maverick71]

I refuse to wear a suit on vacation..wear one every day for work...why would I take my "uniform" on vacation with me...that's how I see it!

[elena7seas]

I would like to thank everyone that posted their point of view on this thread, especially those who did so in a non-confrontational way.

 

It's been really interesting to read the various perspectives re: wearing a suit vs. wearing a sports jacket.

[madelinerose]

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Edited August 4, 2010 by madelinerose

[shipshape sam]

I refuse to wear a suit on vacation..wear one every day for work...why would I take my "uniform" on vacation with me...that's how I see it!

 

Maybe you would take your uniform if it is the suggested 'dress' for the evening dinner in the MDR? Just a thought as to 'why'.

 

I personally don't like suits either, but I do like to get in the spirit of the cruise and what it entails. The slippery slope is that you can get into the MDR without the suggested 'dress' up to a point. If I told you I wear business casual as my uniform and thus want to wear a camp shirt/shorts/flip flops to dinner in the MDR, I think Celebrity would stop me at the door. So........ Celebrity does make a suggested 'dress' but Celebrity does draw the line somewhere. Most likely they are also inconsistent in their own enforcement too.

 

I think I might not attend muster next time as it does not suit me.

[LongTimeTvlr]

I am a little late to this discussion.

 

I am a man and have been for quite some time.

I am 6' and my shoe size is 10.5 (American). Never had a problem fitting everything into suitcases. It does take a little planning, but is well worth the effort.

 

I enjoy wearing tuxes, suits, and ties.

Wore them for work for 30 years and liked it.

Haven't worn them for work now in 10 years and that is fine also.

I enjoy getting dressed up to look as nice as it is possible to make me look, and spend time with my beautiful wife doing the same. The effort is much more effective for her than for me.

 

I take a tux on every cruise. Also a sports jacked and several ties. I just learned how to tie a bow tie a few cruises ago and now have several that are not pre-tied. I think that is just fun. Always liked the way George Clooney looked when he has the un-tied bow tie around his neck. Unfortunately I am not as good looking in all other regards. At least my tie looks like his tie.

 

I don't get the logic of "I have to wear it for work so I won't wear it on a cruise". I always felt blessed that I worked at a place where it was possible to wear suits. Some are not so lucky.

 

I view the dinning room the same as I would a party. I like parties, even ones at work. If a friend was having a party and recommended I come wearing a tux, I cannot imagine showing up in a sports coat. On a cruise my fellow passengers I view as potential friends.

[shipshape sam]

I am a little late to this discussion.

 

I am a man and have been for quite some time.

I am 6' and my shoe size is 10.5 (American). Never had a problem fitting everything into suitcases. It does take a little planning, but is well worth the effort.

 

I enjoy wearing tuxes, suits, and ties.

Wore them for work for 30 years and liked it.

Haven't worn them for work now in 10 years and that is fine also.

I enjoy getting dressed up to look as nice as it is possible to make me look, and spend time with my beautiful wife doing the same. The effort is much more effective for her than for me.

 

I take a tux on every cruise. Also a sports jacked and several ties. I just learned how to tie a bow tie a few cruises ago and now have several that are not pre-tied. I think that is just fun. Always liked the way George Clooney looked when he has the un-tied bow tie around his neck. Unfortunately I am not as good looking in all other regards. At least my tie looks like his tie.

 

I don't get the logic of "I have to wear it for work so I won't wear it on a cruise". I always felt blessed that I worked at a place where it was possible to wear suits. Some are not so lucky.

 

I view the dinning room the same as I would a party. I like parties, even ones at work. If a friend was having a party and recommended I come wearing a tux, I cannot imagine showing up in a sports coat. On a cruise my fellow passengers I view as potential friends.

 

I like your perspective!

 

I actually like to wear a tux vs suit (partly for the specific reason maverick71 mention- work. Additionally I wear suits on a number of other occaions). For me, a tux is something more, something special to look forward to (as you suggest 'among potential/future friends'). My bows are pretied though.

[Leesie6351]

we also look forward to "formal nights". DH wears a black suit with a tuxedo shirt and tuxedo tie-- you can't really tell his is not wearing a tux. I used to bring cocktail gowns but due to weight restrictions, I've now changed from cocktail dresses to silky flowing pants with a variety of glitzy tops and wear my "cruise jewelry" to complete the formal look. My cruise jewelry is really nice costume jewlery that if real would cost thousands. I buy it on sale and at least IMHO, DH and I look just swell.

 

To all those who claim to hate dressing up, if the cost is the reason, if you shop well, you can get your outfits for DW for under a $100 on sale and for DH under $200-250 on sale or rent a tux from the ship. If you just hate to dress up on principle, please understand that in todays casual world, there are so few places left for the aaverage person to dress up, that you should be glad for the opportunity. To agree with other responders, there are many excellent cruise lines that have gone casual---perhaps you'd feel more at ease on one of those. If you still choose to sail Celebrity, then please respect your fellow passengers and yourself by adhering to the dress code.

 

Thanks;)

[iancal]

For me, not wanting to wear formal clothing on a cruise has absolutely NOTHING to do with cost. I have lots of suits, shirts, and dress shoes thank you very much. And they all fit very well and are comfortable to wear-they have to because I am wearing them 12-16 hours a day. I just do not want to bother with formal wear on vacation...it is as simple as that. Nothing to do with cost, nothing to do with packing really, it is just that when I am on vacation wearing a suit is the furthest thing from my mind -in fact it is what I am trying to escape from for a week or two.

 

Given the choice while on vacation between a cotton open necked shirt, casual slacks and shoes and a suit, shirt, tie,,,the choice for me is easy. There seems to be a thread running through these posts that all men really do want to dress up and the reason that they hesitate is because of no clothes, no money, poor fitting clothes, etc, etc. Fortunately, my DW has no issue with this and does not nag nag nag me about it. She just wants us to have a quiet, relaxing vacation. No mystery whatsoever.

Edited August 4, 2010 by iancal

[Mr. Luckytoo]

I would like to thank everyone that posted their point of view on this thread, especially those who did so in a non-confrontational way.

 

It's been really interesting to read the various perspectives re: wearing a suit vs. wearing a sports jacket.

 

Elena, see what you started? ;)

 

Now that there are almost 100 responses YOU have to do your homework. Go back thru the responses and come up with the top 10 reasons men don't want to wear a suit on a cruise....

 

BTW there are the helpful hins I learned reading this thread:

 

1. you earlier mentioned about a dry cleaning bag reduced wrinkles...were you talking about the clear wrap that it comes from the dry cleaner or something else?

 

2. Rather than cleaning my jacket or worrying about wrinkles I'll just pack it and get it dry cleaned on board the first night

 

3. I'm not the only guy who hates packing a pair of dress shoes (in my case size 11.5) just to wear with a suit/tux.

 

4. There is a lot of intolerance in the world/Celebrity board

 

5. I never realized that formal cruisers choose to cruise Celebrity because of the formal night dress code. I was under the impression that Celebrity had better service, nicer cabins, more relaxed on-board activities, non-smoking casinos, etc., but NOPE it's because of the formal wear policy :cool:

Edited August 4, 2010 by Mr. Luckytoo

[LOP]

Personally, I prefer a suit over sport coat/slacks.

 

That being said, when traveling and trying to minimize luggage and the amount of clothes...I will pack a sport coat over a suit due to the combinability (is that a word?) with other clothing...with a sport coat, I can dress up a pair of nice jeans and crew neck shirt...that is the extreme.

 

What I am trying to say is suits lack the flexibility when traveling that sport coats/slacks afford.

 

Formal nights are a different story...I WILL wear a tuxedo and my formal boots (I am from Texas).

 

I enjoy dressing up because chicks dig it...especially my wife:D

 

Hope this provides some male perspective on the subject.

Edited August 4, 2010 by LOP

[Mr. Luckytoo]

I agree, no suits, no jackets! Shaving, why bother. Heck, even washing your hands is a burden. And those serving utensils at the buffet, they just take more time than using your hands. I agree, no rules, no decoram. :)

 

Hey didn't I see this same quote on the Carnival board? :p

[elena7seas]

Elena, see what you started? ;)

 

Now that there are almost 100 responses YOU have to do your homework. Go back thru the responses and come up with the top 10 reasons men don't want to wear a suit on a cruise....

 

Well, as a matter of fact, I am doing just that at present!! :D

 

BTW there are the helpful hints I learned reading this thread:

 

1. you earlier mentioned about a dry cleaning bag reduced wrinkles...were you talking about the clear wrap that it comes from the dry cleaner or something else?

 

Yes, the clear bags that your suit comes in from the dry cleaner. They work great!

 

2. Rather than cleaning my jacket or worrying about wrinkles I'll just pack it and get it dry cleaned on board the first night

 

That's what we do the most. I give my husband's suit to the steward the day we board, and we always have it back in time for formal night. Costs the same or slightly less than the cleaner at home, and I don't have to worry about how carefully we pack the suit.

 

3. I'm not the only guy who hates packing a pair of dress shoes (in my case size 11.5) just to wear with a suit/tux.

 

My husband has a pair of lightweight black dress shoes. He packs all his socks inside the (size 11) shoes, so they don't take up very much extra room.

 

4. There is a lot of intolerance in the world/Celebrity board.

 

Luckily, you won't see any of that on Celebrity ships. Some of the finest people I have ever had the good luck to travel with.

 

5. I never realized that formal cruisers choose to cruise Celebrity because of the formal night dress code. I was under the impression that Celebrity had better service, nicer cabins, more relaxed on-board activities, non-smoking casinos, etc., but NOPE it's because of the formal wear policy :cool:

 

I wouldn't say it's about the formal wear policy, but about the ambience that is created. It is really very nice, and somehow, more "romantic". And it is VERY different from the evening ambience on board other ships that have a predominantly casual vibe, even on "formal" nights.

 

I'm not saying that one is better than the other, but if you'd like to dress up a bit more and spend a special evening with your partner, it's not as much fun if 90% of the other people on board are in very casual garb. And for some of us, dressing up when most others do not can be very uncomfortable.

 

As far as cruises are concerned, my husband doesn't always want to "dress for dinner" (in the old vernacular), and I don't always ask him to, but when he does, he does enjoy it, and he would admit to you that it gives the evening a special feeling. It's nice to dress up for each other.

[dplusd]

I enjoyed dressing for formal night on my first cruise. It was part of the mystic of cruising. But on the second cruise I just brought a dark suit. Buy my third cruise I started going to specialty restaurants on Formal night, because on that cruise line they are always resort casual.

 

My point is, the novelty of dressing up for the main dining room on a cruise wears off real fast...at least for me and I suspect many others. Combine that with the general decline in MDR food quality and service and I am finding even more reasons to NOT get dressed up. At least on the mass market cruiselines, there is a definate and steady trend toward dressing up less. Can't fight it...

[FinelyCruising]

Combine that with the general decline in MDR food quality and service and I am finding even more reasons to NOT get dressed up.

 

If I thought the food quality and service standards were so undesirable I hardly pay for Celebrity. Any cruise line has a ship to sail on, it's what's above the hull that matters. You have disqualified two major factors in choosing a line, all things being equal among mainstream lines in terms of price, I'd bet you an find a more relaxed atmosphere with equally poor food quality and service standards. It can't be the payout on Casino Slots that keeps you here.

[flclsax]

Can you please explain how my coming into the MDR wearing slacks a shirt and a sports jacket diminish's your experience? :confused:

 

Don't ever remember saying that a sports jacket etc. diminished my experience at all....what I am referring to are people who show up in jeans or slacks and a shirt. A rule is a rule on formal night...In my opinion a jacket/slacks, suit or tux all are perfectly acceptable for a formal night considering most people don't own tuxes.