Merion_Mom Posted February 12, 2011 #101 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I am only going to post this one time and one time only. 1 GRT = approx. 100 cubic feet of interior space. With that said, smaller GRT on the new class of ship can indeed add more passengers with less space without compromise. The reason being is that this new class of ship (Sunshine) will need less space for propulson and generation of power due to the Sunshine aspect. This new breed of ocean vessel will utilize solar power for a majority of the operating systems. For obvious reason I cannot reveal my sources for this information. Many of you will flame me and discount this information as myth. Mock my words now and then realize that this information in the coming months will prove to be true. Bookmark this and we will see for sure in the future. OOO! OOO! "Photovoltaic of the Seas" "Super Nova of the Seas" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12marshall Posted February 12, 2011 #102 Share Posted February 12, 2011 we've come up with some good names for the new vessels.... some are humor related. Can you figure out which are humor? Reflection of the Seas Shimmer of the Seas Illumination of the Seas Amore of the Seas Temperance of the Seas Sentiment of the Seas Wonder of the Seas Honor of the Seas Dignity of the Seas Serendipity of the Seas Apollo of the Seas Tranquility of the Seas The Limpid of the Seas The Parting of the Seas Sparkle of the Seas Twinkle of the Seas Sizzle of the Seas Crackle of the Seas Bellweather of the Seas Tsunami of the Seas Vehement of the Seas Cornucopia of the Seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rene1103 Posted February 12, 2011 #103 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Very Interesting news here from Germany: the german Dockyard Meyer Papenburg published official news about a contract between Meyer Papenburg and RCI. They will build up a new ship for autuum 2014. The project and new class will be called "Sunshine Class". The fist ship is fixex and the second is confirmed as an option/additional order. The ship get space for 4.100 people and will cost round about 697 million euro! It would be round about 158.000 BRZ. (i don´t know how to calculate it in gross tonnage). They will be bigger than the freedom class ships. One more fact is also that the ships have a lot more single people cabins like other rci ships yet. (Like NCL with the norwegian epic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxiecat3 Posted February 12, 2011 #104 Share Posted February 12, 2011 One major difference. RCI knows how to design ships. Carnival does not. :) As some of the younger generation might say; Tru dat:). My main reason for asking about the space ratio was, I just was curious how it was comparable to the Dream, because sooner or later a Carnival fanatic with try to come up with a remark about how RCI is desperate for revenue and, on paper, is cramming more people a smaller ship. Gregg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted February 12, 2011 #105 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I am only going to post this one time and one time only. 1 GRT = approx. 100 cubic feet of interior space. With that said, smaller GRT on the new class of ship can indeed add more passengers with less space without compromise. The reason being is that this new class of ship (Sunshine) will need less space for propulson and generation of power due to the Sunshine aspect. This new breed of ocean vessel will utilize solar power for a majority of the operating systems. For obvious reason I cannot reveal my sources for this information. Many of you will flame me and discount this information as myth. Mock my words now and then realize that this information in the coming months will prove to be true. Bookmark this and we will see for sure in the future. Why would anyone flame or mock you? I think it's a good idea. We're already seeing solar power used on Oasis Class and Celebrity's Solstice Class. It only stands to reason they would further the technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajathree Posted February 12, 2011 #106 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I am only going to post this one time and one time only. 1 GRT = approx. 100 cubic feet of interior space. With that said, smaller GRT on the new class of ship can indeed add more passengers with less space without compromise. The reason being is that this new class of ship (Sunshine) will need less space for propulson and generation of power due to the Sunshine aspect. This new breed of ocean vessel will utilize solar power for a majority of the operating systems. For obvious reason I cannot reveal my sources for this information. Many of you will flame me and discount this information as myth. Mock my words now and then realize that this information in the coming months will prove to be true. Bookmark this and we will see for sure in the future. While this sounds good in theory I find it difficult to believe that solar will power the "majority" of operations.....heck I don't even think they ever even installed all the solar cells on Allure that Oasis got. There was also an article out recently that Carnival did away with some solar technology as they didn't see the return on cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koterry Posted February 12, 2011 #107 Share Posted February 12, 2011 You are a CC member since 2006 and this is your very first post ever:eek:Was thinking the same exact thing????:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajathree Posted February 12, 2011 #108 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Do a Google search on "Project Sunshine".... interesting results if Royal were truly naming this project referring to anything to do with solar.....most hits refer to family and children in need programs....I didn't even see the word solar mentioned till page 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koterry Posted February 12, 2011 #109 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I am just very happy that they have scaled down from the Beomouth of the Seas class. Now I can skip that class totally - and wait for the next class if I want to sail a ship that still has the "new car" smell.... ;):DYou have no idea what your missing:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koterry Posted February 12, 2011 #110 Share Posted February 12, 2011 There is a person that works for STX shipyard and he posts on a small cruise board. He stated that RCI never took up the option for a fourth Freedom class. Also he stated that since the Freedom class was designed there were a lot of advances in technology and the ship would have to be redesigned anyway. This may be that redesign.Whatever it is , can't wait to see what she looks like and what surprises are in store for us:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koterry Posted February 12, 2011 #111 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Exactly. The tonnage is so close that it's essentially the same structure.How do you know it's "essentially the same structure"???:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koterry Posted February 12, 2011 #112 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I believe this will be a totally unique ship. Unlike anything ever built by any cruise line. The only similarity to Freedom Class, will be the size. :) You read my mind;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koterry Posted February 12, 2011 #113 Share Posted February 12, 2011 And if I recall correctly... The "Voyager" class was actually called "Eagle" Class. And "Freedom" class was called "Ultra-Voyager" class. You are correct oh wise one;) Totally forgot that bit of trivia, thanks:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted February 12, 2011 #114 Share Posted February 12, 2011 The "Voyager" class was actually called "Eagle" Class. And "Freedom" class was called "Ultra-Voyager" class. Radiance was Vantage class. And Sovereign was "Mega Class." My only question...Wasn't Vision Class called "Vision Class" from the beginning, and then the name was finally applied to the last ship? Refresh my memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHV44 Posted February 12, 2011 #115 Share Posted February 12, 2011 You are correct oh wise one Totally forgot that bit of trivia, thanks ...here are all: Project Vision --> Legend of the Seas, Splendour of the Seas,Enchantment of the Seas, Vision of the Seas Project Voyager (later Project Vantage) --> Radiance of the Seas, Brilliance of the Seas, Serenade of the Seas, Jewel of the Seas Project Eagle --> Voyager of the Seas, Explorer of the Seas, Adventure of the Seas, Navigator of the Seas, Mariner of the Seas Project Ultra-Voyager --> Freedom of the Seas, Liberty of the Seas, Independence of the Seas Project Genesis --> Oasis of the Seas, Allure of the Seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted February 12, 2011 #116 Share Posted February 12, 2011 And Sovereign was "Mega Class." My only question...Wasn't Vision Class called "Vision Class" from the beginning, and then the name was finally applied to the last ship? Refresh my memory. I think that you're correct Paul. That's what I remember anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted February 12, 2011 #117 Share Posted February 12, 2011 How do you know it's "essentially the same structure"???:confused: Considering that the largest ship ever built by MW is the Disney Dream, and she's 30T lighter and 60ft narrower than FOS (while carrying the same passenger load), it's entirely possible that a longer, slimmer hull design will emerge. I'm thinking FOS length, Radiance width and height, and a profile that will be more port friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted February 12, 2011 #118 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Considering that the largest ship ever built by MW is the Disney Dream, and she's 30T lighter and 60ft narrower than FOS (while carrying the same passenger load), it's entirely possible that a longer, slimmer hull design will emerge. I'm thinking FOS length, Radiance width and height, and a profile that will be more port friendly. I agree. There are limitations to the width of the new builds that come out of Meyer Werft. Here is a good example of why. There is a set of locks (I assume that it's a set of locks) that the ship has to pass through just outside of the shipyard. As you can see the new Celebrity Eclipse leaving the shipyard is a tight squeeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSteve11 Posted February 12, 2011 #119 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Considering that the largest ship ever built by MW is the Disney Dream, and she's 30T lighter and 60ft narrower than FOS (while carrying the same passenger load), it's entirely possible that a longer, slimmer hull design will emerge. I'm thinking FOS length, Radiance width and height, and a profile that will be more port friendly. But would that add up to a 158k GT ship? Taking the FOS and making it skinnier and shorter should not make it heavier. Seems like it would be a bit "light" with those dimensions, as the new ship is supposedly just slightly larger in registered size then the FOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted February 12, 2011 #120 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Can't wait! Couldn't think of a better ship to cruise RCCL on for the first time when she comes out! :) How can you not think of a better ship to cruise on when we don't know, pretty much, anything about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted February 12, 2011 #121 Share Posted February 12, 2011 But would that add up to a 158k GT ship? Taking the FOS and making it skinnier and shorter should not make it heavier. Seems like it would be a bit "light" with those dimensions, as the new ship is supposedly just slightly larger in registered size then the FOS GT is not the physical weight of the ship. It's complicated, but it's basically a measurement of the amount of enclosed space within the ship. So far, there is no mention of the ship's dimensions...at least, not that I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooraq Posted February 12, 2011 #122 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I'm encouraged by the anticipation of a new ship class. Also makes me wonder than when these are built, will the Sovereign class be sold off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVALUATOR Posted February 12, 2011 #123 Share Posted February 12, 2011 GT is not the physical weight of the ship. It's complicated, but it's basically a measurement of the amount of enclosed space within the ship. So far, there is no mention of the ship's dimensions...at least, not that I've seen. Disney Dream.......................125' wide.........1115' long.....128,000 tons Freedom of the Seas.............127' wide.........1112' long.....160,000 tons Very close in dimensions, 32,000 tons difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBCL Posted February 12, 2011 #124 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Remember, Meyer Werft is also building the new NCL ships - which are 143,500 GT with a double occupancy of 4,000. I suspect the new RCCL ships could be around the same length/width of the NCL ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBCL Posted February 12, 2011 #125 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Disney Dream.......................125' wide.........1115' long.....128,000 tonsFreedom of the Seas.............127' wide.........1112' long.....160,000 tons Very close in dimensions, 32,000 tons difference. Oh but if I'm correct, I think FOTS is actually 154,000 tons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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