Kids in CL?

[nicholegore]

well after paying over $8000 for my 13 month old to be in an Owner's suite your absolutely right it is the perfect setting. No sure if you have ever been in the CL before but it is a far cry from a nightclub sitting.

[Desertbelle]

Oh yes a 13 month old child absolutely belongs in a Concierge lounge. Great setting for a young child.:rolleyes:

Have you actually been in a CL?? Seriously, you have the most perverse things to say.

 

The CL, even during HH, is a nice, calm and relaxing place to sit and have a drink. And I can't think of a better spot for a family who qualify to be for a while enjoying the view, the company and the cruise. It's not at all like sitting in a bar with a child.

[Cshgrand]

Well expect the parents to run to AG and complain that they are not allowed in the Diamond lounge with their kids so he will give them access to that also. Parents aren't happy unless they are shoving their kids down everyone's throat. Can't wait for one of these little things to get their hands on some alcohol and then the big stink will start. Parents will want to know why Royal didn't have a plan in place to watch their little angels while they were in the lounges. :rolleyes:

 

Perhaps I am reading this incorrectly.

You would wish potential injury on a child in order to prove your point? I think all this has gone a little too far now...

[torpeedo]

well after paying over $8000 for my 13 month old to be in an Owner's suite your absolutely right it is the perfect setting. No sure if you have ever been in the CL before but it is a far cry from a nightclub sitting.

 

If you paid $8000 just for your 13 month old to be in an OS, I think you overpaid!!:D I would hope it was for YOUR enjoyment as well!

PS I had another call from AG office and spoke with Laura. The Concierge will have a "behavior" policy to enforce, lucky him/her. If babies or kids are fussy, acting up, the parents will be asked to leave the lounge with the children.. I feel badly for the Concierge but if not enforced, he will have other problems to deal with.

All seapasses will be checked and the child must be in the Suite cabin..

[Debde]

PS I had another call from AG office and spoke with Laura. The Concierge will have a "behavior" policy to enforce, lucky him/her. If babies or kids are fussy, acting up, the parents will be asked to leave the lounge with the children.. ..

 

This is very good news as it should now also apply to Adults. Because Lord knows some behave worse then children sometimes!!

[bajathree]

Many of us have suspected that D+ will be evicted from the CL at some point. If not 2012, maybe after most of the ships have had their "Oasisizing" experience - presumably they'll include some kind of Diamond Lounge addition. And if that happens, then I don't see why people would be upset that they are separate but equal in that regard. Except on Oasis & Allure, where the difference in physcial quality between the two lounges is extreme.

 

Oh I think this will most likely take place sometime early spring 2012. I doubt this will be done is stages....not sure why they even bothered messing with the addition of kids into the CL at this point and didn't just wait:confused:maybe they just figured it would push the D+'s out a bit early breaking them in...or maybe we should say making them want to leave the CL on their own. In any case most likely D+ will become the new D and D will become the new Emerald (in jest only)....D lounges on ships that have them will just turn into D+ lounges.....doubt seriously they are going to play around dragging this one way out in stages. I now understand why they put such a spread between Pinnacle and D+.

[klove613]

Perhaps I am reading this incorrectly.

You would wish potential injury on a child in order to prove your point? I think all this has gone a little too far now...

 

So agree with you. It is really sad that people are acting like their world is coming to an end because a child will be sitting with them in the CL. And to the poster who said find a more kid-friendly cruise line. Please tell me where that is. Not many cruise lines have rock climbing walls, ice skating rinks, flow-riders, zip lines, characters, and character breakfasts. All these activities appeal to the younger set.

 

I would never dream of going on HAL or Cunard with my children and then complain that there are too many senior citizens because I can see from the facilities and programs that they offer that they are not appealing to young families. Clearly many on this board have not gotten the memo, so let me enlighten, "ROYAL IS KID FRIENDLY TO THE MAX."

[JillLovesTravel]

So agree with you. It is really sad that people are acting like their world is coming to an end because a child will be sitting with them in the CL. And to the poster who said find a more kid-friendly cruise line. Please tell me where that is. Not many cruise lines have rock climbing walls, ice skating rinks, flow-riders, zip lines, characters, and character breakfasts. All these activities appeal to the younger set.

 

I would never dream of going on HAL or Cunard with my children and then complain that there are too many senior citizens because I can see from the facilities and programs that they offer that they are not appealing to young families. Clearly many on this board have not gotten the memo, so let me enlighten, "ROYAL IS KID FRIENDLY TO THE MAX."

 

This is so true. Any couples cruising on a newer Royal Caribbean ship with all the bells and whistles, especially during summers and holidays better expect to be around lots of kids of various ages. If they want something more kid free, there are MANY choices out there. If anything, Royal Caribbean is accelerating it's quest for the Family market.

[grand isle joe]

......maybe, just maybe RCCL is "going in a new direction". The company has squeezed all the $$ out of the qualifying members and now they find that the amount spent on board the ship by each "member" does not even cover the operating cost per member. Between the discounted room, no on board spending, and free drinks it is more cost effective to go after new groups that spend more than cater to the old. If you add up just a families soda package that is alot of$$$. Something to ponder. ;)

....much like G.M. dropping automobile lines that were "out dated and not bringing in the numbers".:eek:

[simplylife0010]

Have you actually been in a CL?? Seriously, you have the most perverse things to say.

 

The CL, even during HH, is a nice, calm and relaxing place to sit and have a drink. And I can't think of a better spot for a family who qualify to be for a while enjoying the view, the company and the cruise. It's not at all like sitting in a bar with a child.

 

I have been to the CL many, many times and I stand by my comments. This is not the place for a young child. As far as the things that I have to say, I understand that this site has an ignore feature. I suggest that you use it.:)

[MyNameIsGermy]

I have been to the CL many, many times and I stand by my comments. This is not the place for a young child. As far as the things that I have to say, I understand that this site has an ignore feature. I suggest that you use it.:)

 

Not sure I follow - why is it not the place for a child?

 

The dining room serves alcohol and adults congregate there - should we stop allowing children in the dining rooms?

 

The pool areas all serve alcohol and adults congregate there - should we stop allowing children in the pool areas?

 

-germ

[Bakincakes]

So agree with you. It is really sad that people are acting like their world is coming to an end because a child will be sitting with them in the CL. And to the poster who said find a more kid-friendly cruise line. Please tell me where that is. Not many cruise lines have rock climbing walls, ice skating rinks, flow-riders, zip lines, characters, and character breakfasts. All these activities appeal to the younger set.

 

I would never dream of going on HAL or Cunard with my children and then complain that there are too many senior citizens because I can see from the facilities and programs that they offer that they are not appealing to young families. Clearly many on this board have not gotten the memo, so let me enlighten, "ROYAL IS KID FRIENDLY TO THE MAX."

 

"Kid Friendly" is alot different that "Kid Exclusive".

 

We aren't talking about days or weeks. We are talking about a few hours a day for an ADULTS only venue. Not too much to ask at all.

 

All of the activities you mentioned cater to kids. Why can't adults have ONE area that caters to them exclusively for a mere few hours a day?

[teajak]

This is so true. Any couples cruising on a newer Royal Caribbean ship with all the bells and whistles, especially during summers and holidays better expect to be around lots of kids of various ages. If they want something more kid free, there are MANY choices out there. If anything, Royal Caribbean is accelerating it's quest for the Family market.

We are all aware of kids on cruises and I don't have a problem with that. All we are asking is to allow us 3 hours at cocktail time with an adult venue,is that too much. Kids have their own club, no adults allowed and no one complains,they have the run of the ship.Why can't we have this minimal time each day for adult conversation and socializing. If parents want to spend 24/7 with their little darlings fine, but give us one place (other than our cabin)for a very small amount of time.:eek:

[traveling1969]

How about this idea? We'll call it:

 

 

HAPPY (meal) HOUR

Drinks will be served in the Concierge Lounge from 3-5 PM daily. All adults MUST be accompanied by a child to attend.

Bon Voyage to all!

[brmoqueen]

got my phone call from RCL....

 

Said AG posted on the blog again, read it and it basically says the same thing.

 

Suites affected on the average have 5 kids....and most will not take the kids in CL....Guess they haven't counted how many D+ have kids that are now able to come in too....

 

She did say they are bombarded with letters and phone calls...REALLY???? Then as she said the majority don't want the kids in there....REALLY???? Then why wouldn't you change it?????? Doesn't majority rule in most things????

 

She said she hopes we have a gr8 time on our b2b in Jan...I did tell her that we may be changing our Allure in June tho since that will be bigtime kids and we won't have a couple hours in a place with no kids.....

 

Guess we'll find out in Jan how it is! Hopefully it's not as bad as I'm picturing!!

[FLSteve11]

We are all aware of kids on cruises and I don't have a problem with that. All we are asking is to allow us 3 hours at cocktail time with an adult venue,is that too much. Kids have their own club, no adults allowed and no one complains,they have the run of the ship.Why can't we have this minimal time each day for adult conversation and socializing. If parents want to spend 24/7 with their little darlings fine, but give us one place (other than our cabin)for a very small amount of time.:eek:

 

I don't think the issue is just people wanting an adult place for a time that is causing the conflict. It's wanting an adult-only place where the only free drinks are being given out, which are part of suite perks that may (or may not) have kids attending in them.

 

Otherwise there is the casino (though not open in port), or the solarium (on most ships, but not all), or the disco (in the later evening) which are all adult-only areas. None of these are truly lounges though (well, the disco generally is as well) and cover the pre-dinner drink areas people want to be able to use. But they ARE areas that are for adults-only and would not have children interfering with the time of people who do not want them around.

 

I think RCCL needs an adults-only lounge anyway, or one that is adult-only during the evening hours (which is how disney does it). However, their lounge is for any adult (not just suite or D/D+), and the drinks are not free. The most likely would be the Viking Crown Lounge, as it is set apart from the rest of the ship for the most part. Then see if there is a conflict with the CL after that.

[gerif]

"Kid Friendly" is alot different that "Kid Exclusive".

 

We aren't talking about days or weeks. We are talking about a few hours a day for an ADULTS only venue. Not too much to ask at all.

 

All of the activities you mentioned cater to kids. Why can't adults have ONE area that caters to them exclusively for a mere few hours a day?

 

ITA - even Disney (and what line could be more kid friendly than Disney?) has adult only areas that are strictly enforced. There are places that are for kids only - why can't there be places that are for adults only? We do pay the cruise fares after all.

 

But, what it all boils down to are those free drinks that folks with little kiddies don't want to miss (they really can't claim they come to the lounge for adult conversation, now, can they?) AO is closed when they want to have their free drinks so there's nowhere to dump the little ones while they do so.

 

There are several solutions the cruiseline could come up with such as allowing them to bring drinks back to their cabin or giving them a couple of free drink coupons each day, but they really don't want to go that route. I also agree that when this move ends with overcrowding, the D+ group will be out the door.

[mommabean]

got my phone call from RCL....

 

Said AG posted on the blog again, read it and it basically says the same thing.

 

Suites affected on the average have 5 kids....and most will not take the kids in CL....Guess they haven't counted how many D+ have kids that are now able to come in too....

 

She did say they are bombarded with letters and phone calls...REALLY???? Then as she said the majority don't want the kids in there....REALLY???? Then why wouldn't you change it?????? Doesn't majority rule in most things????

 

She said she hopes we have a gr8 time on our b2b in Jan...I did tell her that we may be changing our Allure in June tho since that will be bigtime kids and we won't have a couple hours in a place with no kids.....

 

Guess we'll find out in Jan how it is! Hopefully it's not as bad as I'm picturing!!

 

What I find odd is that he says so few suites have requested it which is why he is allowing it. The way I see it is, if so few have requested it, what's so hard about telling those few "NO!" It's not like he is going to offend the majority of suite guests by saying no.

 

 

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[klove613]

ITA - even Disney (and what line could be more kid friendly than Disney?) has adult only areas that are strictly enforced. There are places that are for kids only - why can't there be places that are for adults only? We do pay the cruise fares after all.

 

But, what it all boils down to are those free drinks that folks with little kiddies don't want to miss (they really can't claim they come to the lounge for adult conversation, now, can they?) AO is closed when they want to have their free drinks so there's nowhere to dump the little ones while they do so.

 

There are several solutions the cruiseline could come up with such as allowing them to bring drinks back to their cabin or giving them a couple of free drink coupons each day, but they really don't want to go that route. I also agree that when this move ends with overcrowding, the D+ group will be out the door.

 

Please...people with little kiddies are not the only ones who don't want to miss the free drinks and why should they? People in suites are paying a lot of money for amenities advertised by Royal and then when they get there, they can't even use them if they have kids. The fact is that if Royal went by the complaints on here and gave you and others "the adult only" refuge you desire, but withheld the free drinks, no one would be happy. Let's not fool ourselves here, the free drinks are why people want into this lounge...with or without kids.

[north29]

It is not The kids most of us worry about, it is the parenting skills of family members, whether real parents, or grandparents trying to make sure the children have a good time at all cost to others. All of us have seen good and bad parenting ie: basically showing no respect to others. I will tell you, we have some relatives both professionals, one is a lawyer, who believe in no discipline for their children, and if they were in the CL, they would make it miserable for all. I also doubt that RC could or would handle a issue like that well.

Maybe we could all drink more to help tolerate the family issue, and cost RC more for our perks, and the would noticet LOL

[marci22]

All seapasses will be checked and the child must be in the Suite cabin..

 

It's usually a bit more expensive to book the child into another room rather than as a 3rd/4th in the suite, so I would challenge that if I were a parent using the lounge. If the parents are in an eligible suite, all minor children should have the ability to share amenities with a parent.

 

I was basically told this (by a higher-up, not a C&A rep) when I booked a GS last summer. I wrote asking about my minor children using suite amenities with me and I was called and told that it was absolutely fine (except for CL during happy hour, at that time).

[critterchick]

It's usually a bit more expensive to book the child into another room rather than as a 3rd/4th in the suite, so I would challenge that if I were a parent using the lounge. If the parents are in an eligible suite, all minor children should have the ability to share amenities with a parent.

 

I was basically told this (by a higher-up, not a C&A rep) when I booked a GS last summer. I wrote asking about my minor children using suite amenities with me and I was called and told that it was absolutely fine (except for CL during happy hour, at that time).

 

Are you talking about minor children who aren't booked into the full suite having CL privileges? I don't think that the children should be allowed in the CL, just as I don't think that the minor children of D+ who are in a separate cabin should be allowed in (although they are more likely to be D+ themselves if they live in the same house). Having said that, I don't think you can book a minor child into a cabin without the parent, so now your challenge is that one parent, in a full suite, has CL privileges, while the other parent won't. Many people book that way, then change Seapasses around once onboard. I wonder how that will play out now? <headache>

[Stags14]

I prefer not have the kids around beause I know that there are a lot of care free parents out there who will allow them to run around freely yelling, screaming, whining and whatever else. Otherwise, it doesn't really bother me.

 

But is happy hour really an appropriate activity for kids?

[cruisegirl1]

It's usually a bit more expensive to book the child into another room rather than as a 3rd/4th in the suite, so I would challenge that if I were a parent using the lounge. If the parents are in an eligible suite, all minor children should have the ability to share amenities with a parent.

 

I was basically told this (by a higher-up, not a C&A rep) when I booked a GS last summer. I wrote asking about my minor children using suite amenities with me and I was called and told that it was absolutely fine (except for CL during happy hour, at that time).

 

I hope the ruling is that children MUST be in the same cabin as the parent and all adult cards must indicate suite ( just as all must indicate D+). The benefit is extended to suite passenger only- not family members (regardless of relation) traveling in other cabins. If the benefit is extended to family members ( i.e. children, parent, siblings) in other cabins, then that will open a huge can of worms for other family members ( not in suites) to enjoy the lounge and other suite benefits. So many people travel with “family members” What a mess that could be.

 

M

[marci22]

Are you talking about minor children who aren't booked into the full suite having CL privileges? I don't think that the children should be allowed in the CL, just as I don't think that the minor children of D+ who are in a separate cabin should be allowed in (although they are more likely to be D+ themselves if they live in the same house). Having said that, I don't think you can book a minor child into a cabin without the parent, so now your challenge is that one parent, in a full suite, has CL privileges, while the other parent won't. Many people book that way, then change Seapasses around once onboard. I wonder how that will play out now? <headache>

 

Yes, it would be problematic, and impractical. If the parent complains, my guess is that they will allow minor children in with a parent.

 

I don't think the Seapass is the final determination; I think the parent(s) in the GS and above makes the final determination here.