wolfcathorse Posted September 7, 2012 #26 Share Posted September 7, 2012 who's going to get in trouble for this incident! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB48 Posted September 7, 2012 #27 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I sure hope they had the ship exactly where the charts/harbor master/ or even pilot directed it to be, at least that would give the captain some breathing room. Since the Jewel had been there before without problems, I wonder what was different this time. Somewhere in my stuff I have the air draft for the Radiance of 173' and the ship/graph on nautical cities seems to in somewhat agreement with that figure for the Jewel. Could the cable clearance been changed somehow? Oh well, I hope it all can be explained without someone left to twist in the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loubetti Posted September 7, 2012 #28 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Assuming the ship was on the appropriate course, this could be a tide issue. Also, I would expect that the cable was properly identified with the orange marker "balls" that are typically attached to such hazards to navigation. It makes them much easier to see. As an aviator we look for this, as we move much faster and, well, here's an example of what can happen, and in aviation the results are usually fatal to all on board. http://www.aviationlawmonitor.com/2010/03/articles/lawsuits-1/lawsuit-filed-bell-206b-helicopter-fish-and-game-crash-at-auberry-california/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB48 Posted September 7, 2012 #29 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Assuming the ship was on the appropriate course, this could be a tide issue. / I looked up the tidal range for the Faroe Islands, (of course I could not find the tide for Klaksvik, don't know if it would substantially different) and the range was generally less than a foot. I don't know what they would normally allow for a safety margin, when going under the Sunshine Skyway Bridge it really looks close. In reality it is not all that close, the clearance is somewhere around 10-12 feet. I have not been able to find out the stated navigational clearance for that cable is going to Klaksvik. Maybe more info will trickle out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVALUATOR Posted September 7, 2012 #30 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I sure hope they had the ship exactly where the charts/harbor master/ or even pilot directed it to be, at least that would give the captain some breathing room. Since the Jewel had been there before without problems, I wonder what was different this time. Somewhere in my stuff I have the air draft for the Radiance of 173' and the ship/graph on nautical cities seems to in somewhat agreement with that figure for the Jewel. Could the cable clearance been changed somehow? Oh well, I hope it all can be explained without someone left to twist in the wind. We were on the Jewel in 2010 when it snagged a 2' diameter 1000' long pipe going into Columbia. It had broke free while being towed and was sitting just under the waterline. That crash stop at around 5 am was an attention getter. Obviously yesterday's incident is another case of something being where it wasn't supposed to be. Time will tell whether it was the wire or the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB48 Posted September 8, 2012 #31 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I remember the pipe incident now that you mentioned it, just did not recall it was with the Jewel. After further reading, I read that there are no licensed pilots in the Faroe Islands so that means the master is really on the blame line. Let's hope he was where he should have been at the time of the "encounter." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbo1 Posted September 8, 2012 #32 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Brilliance of the Seas is due there on Tuesday, I believe. I wonder how this will effect their approach? Has the overhead line been damaged or stretched? Is it hanging lower now after being hit? I was supposed to be on this sailing so my curiosity is getting the best of me :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtb Posted August 18, 2014 #33 Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) sorry did this by mistake... Edited August 18, 2014 by rtb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinman66 Posted August 18, 2014 #34 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Wow. Shows you with these mega ships how easy something can happen. Like these ones that have to go full speed to get squat to get under bridges Imagine a mishap there Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted August 18, 2014 #35 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Dramatic pictures for sure! :eek: News flash from two years ago. ;) But still interesting. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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