babyher Posted September 23, 2012 #51 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I used to have a friend with a very common first and last name. When he was a student at a very large university, he was one of five men enrolled there with the same name. Seriously. Each had a different middle initial, but first and last names were the same. My friend was arrested once. One of his namesakes committed a crime. When the police asked the school for the perpetrator's address, the school inadvertently gave my friend's info instead. Sent from my SCH-I800 using Tapatalk 2 I knew someone who went through a very long ordeal (not a police matter , but a long drawn out finacial matter over a debt) because of an error like that. His name was John O'Neal.....and the party who owed the debt was John O. Neal . Not the real name , but you understand the mix up. Took him forever to get it cleared up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyher Posted September 23, 2012 #52 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Criminals should be punished. If you don't have anything to worry about, the checks shouldn't bother you. The checks certainly don't bother me. Until one day you get tagged as Bobbi Mac , or Bobby Mack from Riverview Fl. and suddenly you have to go through heaven and hell to get it cleared up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted September 23, 2012 #53 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Nothing wrong in arresting those with valid warrants, whatsoever. The "big brother" comment is very valid, however. Notice all the cameras along streets, freeways, intersections, parking lots, in big cities, etc....? This is only the beginning and at some point the naive will awaken. Unfortunately, it'll be way too late by then. Nothing to hide, here, but realize our privacy and freedoms are being eroded!! A right to privacy while in public or using public transportation are not recognized to the same extent as a right to privacy in your home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gailerina Posted September 23, 2012 #54 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Nothing wrong in arresting those with valid warrants, whatsoever. The "big brother" comment is very valid, however. Notice all the cameras along streets, freeways, intersections, parking lots, in big cities, etc....? This is only the beginning and at some point the naive will awaken. Unfortunately, it'll be way too late by then. Nothing to hide, here, but realize our privacy and freedoms are being eroded!! Ever watch footage from some of those cameras? They can be useless. A mother was killed crossing the street by someone speeding, her children saw from their porch. Her fiance is in serious condition. The cameras only make the car color and maybe type known, nothing else. Streets are owned by the state/city they can do what they want. Same for the highways. Businesses have a right to tape their parking lots...ever watch dumbest criminals? Those cameras serve a purpose, catching thieves and liars. If the government wanted to put cameras in my house and property? Then yeah, I would be upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donray Posted September 23, 2012 #55 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The obeisance paid to the Stasi here is stunning. There are many people with mental illness that think the black helicopters are real and that the East German Stasi is alive and will and is even here in the USA. They off their meds and just start to rave about how the East German Stasi is taking over the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarpHarp Posted September 23, 2012 #56 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Until one day you get tagged as Bobbi Mac , or Bobby Mack from Riverview Fl. and suddenly you have to go through heaven and hell to get it cleared up Just get a passport to take your cruise, and that won't br a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactuscruise Posted September 23, 2012 #57 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I know- I had the same mixed feelings you did. They demand all this information in the name of protecting us against terrorists but bit by bit our entire lives get tracked by computers and cameras and the information is used for other purposes. When you set out the nets for tuna you catch all kinds of fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaserX Posted September 23, 2012 #58 Share Posted September 23, 2012 One of our local law enforcement agencies solved the problem of waiting for felons to take a cruise. They sent out mailings to those with serious warrants saying they won a cruise and to show up at a certain place & time with proper identification to book their free cruise. Turns out that over 100 of them showed up & were booked instead:D What a great idea! This way, you get to clear everything up before your cruise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby #1 Posted September 24, 2012 #59 Share Posted September 24, 2012 A few years ago my dh and I went on a cruise with my cousin and her boyfriend. At the end of the cruise we went to pick up our luggage and the cousins boyfriends luggage was not there. We asked about it and a guard told the bf to come with him. We waited and waited (about an hour) and he finally returned. They were looking for a guy with the same name as my cousins bf. The guy they were looking was from Texas. He had to prove he was not this guy. Had us scared for awhile. I think they had to get a fax with the other guys picture on it before they would release our friend. We have known this guy for years and knew he was never even in Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkz Posted September 24, 2012 #60 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Having previously worked in the juvenile court system (and coming from a state where governors, public officials and police authorities as a group have a very high rate of conviction for crimes in the line of duty), I have a very high level of skepticism towards government policing authority. My state now has nearly 20 exonerated death row convictions over the past few decades, and tons of cases overturned due to confessions extracted by brute force, as well as falsified evidence and sloppy wrongful convictions. The clincher is how rarely the authorities admit that they've made a horrifying mistake (and it doesn't seem to matter to them that the real culprit who should have been arrested is still on the loose, for all their talk about justice and public safety). It's nice when police and prosecutors actually accomplish a well-earned conviction against somebody who needs to be removed from the streets. But it's quite another thing when they get the wrong person. It pays to remember that a warrant is not proof that a person is a criminal. And in America -- much to the dismay of many half-witted citizens -- a person is still innocent until proven guilty. If authorities extradite somebody based on a warrant, the least they could do is have their ducks in a row. I don't automatically assume that they do, nor that the person is guilty of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mapsmith Posted September 24, 2012 #61 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The story was about a warrant for Grand Larceny, which can be as little as $500 in some states. However, a common Grand Larceny warrant could be issued for ID Theft and Fraudulent use of a Credit Card. How would you like to be paying for someone's cruise with your credit card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjn911 Posted September 24, 2012 #62 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Very interesting...when studying in France many..too many years ago..took a t week train pass to the Rivera and West French coast on spring break..time of a lifetime...i had better class and could rent the shared compartments..where you basically can stretch out and sleep 4 to a compartment..then your own bed compartment was more, so on a partial night deal I did this , the save money plan..a woman came in mine with a large Madonna from a church in Marseilles and I had boarded in Nice going west at the time..we were there longer than planned,,not much,,the trains then were NEVER off time..amazing then; and our professor drummed that into us..but this one time..and maybe the whole deal was 15 to 20 minutes over exit but it was amazing..the French police (2) came into my compartment not long after she entered and escorted her out...that is all I know..but quite a little occurrence for a college kid, again quite a thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted September 24, 2012 #63 Share Posted September 24, 2012 But I do like the idea that the deadbeat dads who won't pay their child support, but who can afford to cruise, are hauled away. That I like very much! :D Even better when deadbeat moms or ones that refuse visitation are hauled off. I really like that:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gailerina Posted September 24, 2012 #64 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The story was about a warrant for Grand Larceny, which can be as little as $500 in some states. However, a common Grand Larceny warrant could be issued for ID Theft and Fraudulent use of a Credit Card. How would you like to be paying for someone's cruise with your credit card. Mad.....but woukd want the thief to not know we caught them & then have a video of them being arrested! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ~ signed The Awesome Gailerina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm Breezes Posted September 24, 2012 #65 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Nothing wrong in arresting those with valid warrants, whatsoever. The "big brother" comment is very valid, however. Notice all the cameras along streets, freeways, intersections, parking lots, in big cities, etc....? This is only the beginning and at some point the naive will awaken. Unfortunately, it'll be way too late by then. Nothing to hide, here, but realize our privacy and freedoms are being eroded!! And if someone abducted your child from one of those streets and those cameras caught whoever did it on film and the police were able to identify and capture the abductors from that camera recording....my bet is that your tune would change and you would be thanking those who placed that camera there. You are the "naive" one if you think that doesn't happen and you do not see the benefits those cameras could be in catching those who abuse our laws. Give me privacy in my home...yes. The streets were crime happens daily is another story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gailerina Posted September 24, 2012 #66 Share Posted September 24, 2012 And if someone abducted your child from one of those streets and those cameras caught whoever did it on film and the police were able to identify and capture the abductors from that camera recording....my bet is that your tune would change and you would be thanking those who placed that camera there. You are the "naive" one if you think that doesn't happen and you do not see the benefits those cameras could be in catching those who abuse our laws. Give me privacy in my home...yes. The streets were crime happens daily is another story... Didn't street cameras in NYC catch a man trying to kidnap a little girl? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ~ signed The Awesome Gailerina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm Breezes Posted September 24, 2012 #67 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Didn't street cameras in NYC catch a man trying to kidnap a little girl? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ~ signed The Awesome Gailerina Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QTPieRye Posted September 24, 2012 #68 Share Posted September 24, 2012 A warrant is a warrant, no matter how big or small your perspective is on the issue. Of course names are ran through various databases anytime you go through customs/immigrations. I don't know why people feel cruise ships are exempt. While I agree that a warrant is a warrant, they are not always 100% accurate! And I think you make a valid point... "THE NAMES ARE RAN THROUGH VARIOUS DATABASES". My husband is a JR and has a very common name. A number of years ago, he was handcuffed for a warrant in front of our 3 young kids and placed in the back of a cop car. About 30 minutes later, they released him, as it ended up that the warrant issued had his name and our address, but the wrong date of birth :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TahoeBob Posted September 24, 2012 #69 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Who cares? The government can track me all it wants: I have nothing to hide. Now, if I had something to hide, then I'd be complaining.... My son had nothing to hide until the police made up false charges, fortunately when the charges were turned over to the DA office they saw the truth and dismissed everything. this happened in Davis, California. Yolo County. To anyone who I am not telling the truth please ue Google and read some of the horror stories about Davis PD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Tillie Posted September 24, 2012 #70 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The obeisance paid to the Stasi here is stunning. Don't you have an occupy Wall Street rally to go to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusinpsychRN Posted September 24, 2012 #71 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Unpaid child support can trigger an arrest as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simbathelabradors Posted February 4, 2013 #72 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I was recently on the magic and was actually arrested going INTO the ship but for a completly different reason. I made it through customs and got upstairs only to have an officer tap me on the shoulder and ask me if I had wine in my backpack. When I said I did, he took my backpack. He was not interested in my wine, but it appears that there was an old .22 bullet in the bottom seam of my bag!! Needless to say, 6 officers later and the Galviston Police depeartment, I was allowed to join up with my fellow cruisers. Funny thing is this....I had used this backpack a few years back when I went target practicing with my husband. This very same bag had been on 3 cruises just last year, and two airlines. I counted the debarkments and came up with 11 debarkments, 4 airport security checks and no one had found this stupid bullet in the seam until now...Guess what? you Do NOT want to have ammunition on you when boarding a cruise ship!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMWTim Posted February 4, 2013 #73 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Another one of these threads with no video! Someone getting arrested for larceny, someone getting arrested for being drunk because they were fighting with the spouse the night before. They all fail unless we have video! I mean posting it here you want our true thoughts right?......need video. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlight Durban Cruising Posted February 4, 2013 #74 Share Posted February 4, 2013 On a positive note ----Those arrested don't have to wait in line to disembark !!! lol LOL, now that's Priority Disembarkation for you :D. mmm, I can see all the whiners going down to Guest Services on the last night of future cruises saying "Yoohoo, I have a warrant, I demand Priority Disembarkation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader0108598 Posted February 4, 2013 #75 Share Posted February 4, 2013 My husband used to get stopped all the time at the airport becuse he has a very common name and they were looking for a guy by the same name . It got to be very annoying. We used to get to the airport way early becuase we knew the drill. For some reason a few years ago they stopped bugging him. What we found very funny was that on our way to Aruba out of all the people traveling with us they stopped my son for a pat down. Why is that funny you ask! Meet my son the Massachusetts State Trooper:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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