San_Antonio_Ex Posted February 15, 2013 #5326 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Uncle Gerry finally shows up and was finally well coached to be very apologetic Of course, he couldn't actually be apologetic, could he? I mean, isn't it possible, just possible, that he has compassion for these people; that he truly is sorry that they had to endure the last few days; that he is, I don't know, HUMAN? Not in your book... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_thunderbird Posted February 15, 2013 #5327 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Doesn't the Jones Act make American built and flagged cruise ships essentially unrealistic? Cannot blame Carnival for archaic protectionist legislation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasvar Posted February 15, 2013 #5328 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I was wondering where they were going to disembark. I did not think that gangway was high enough to get to the main lobby. Looks like they are disembarking on the deck to load lifeboats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted February 15, 2013 #5329 Share Posted February 15, 2013 :confused: A good professional media person is typically dedicated to collecting relevant facts and relating them to the media in an honest and clear manner. This isn't Congress. A paid actor isn't necessary. Genuine honesty by leadership is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwjoe Posted February 15, 2013 #5330 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Cahill saying all the right things. Fir those who kept asking where he was, I'm sure he was in the "command center" until she was docked. If he was giving updates every few hours, people would have been asking why he wasn't keeping charge of things instead of talking to media. Cahill did a good job and he sounded sincere. That's what he should have been doing more of throughout this incident. The CEO doesn't need to micromanage the command center, he needs to make the big decisions and be the face of the company and reassure people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gampy Posted February 15, 2013 #5331 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Welcome home, Triumph! Ok, maybe not quite home, but dry land. I hope everyone is safe and recovers from the trials and tribulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted February 15, 2013 #5332 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Doesn't the Jones Act make American built and flagged cruise ships essentially unrealistic? Cannot blame Carnival for archaic protectionist legislation. For the most part, yep. The US is guilty of what they accuse others of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted February 15, 2013 #5333 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I read about how it is going to take hours to let everybody off the ship, which is normal for a cruise, but this cruise wasn't normal I suppose what I'm saying is, upon reaching port they would be letting me off PRONTO, and delaying me from getting off would in my mind be akin to kidnapping If this was a normal cruise debarking passengers would get off to line up at CBP. That will not happen in Mobile because everyone has already been cleared. But I suppose the unreasonable are always free to jump off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted February 15, 2013 #5334 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I was wondering where they were going to disembark. I did not think that gangway was high enough to get to the main lobby. Looks like they are disembarking on the deck to load lifeboats. it appears the lifeboat is in the way of the gangway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berryberry Posted February 15, 2013 #5335 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Of course, he couldn't actually be apologetic, could he? I mean, isn't it possible, just possible, that he has compassion for these people; that he truly is sorry that they had to endure the last few days; that he is, I don't know, HUMAN? Not in your book... He was not that way earlier in the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breezy72 Posted February 15, 2013 #5336 Share Posted February 15, 2013 i'm watching the live feed and it was mentioned by the news people the reason Triumph docked in Mobile is due to the large dry dock they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv cruising 007 Posted February 15, 2013 #5337 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I really dislike when the media pulls out the whiners and sue happy people to put on the air. I 2nd that make all US citizens look bad to the rest of the world, money hungry lawers & drams queens from the Triumph will tarish the image of everyone who suffered aboard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamone777 Posted February 15, 2013 #5338 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Hello everyone! I had to log in to read some of the messages. I am very glad everyone is finally back on land and safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrrhus Posted February 15, 2013 #5339 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The hard part won't be getting past the "contract" , especially with numerous reports of known issues prior to this cruise (spending 2 nights in Progresso while working on the ship). The real issue is collecting a judgement. Just not worth a suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasvar Posted February 15, 2013 #5340 Share Posted February 15, 2013 it appears the lifeboat is in the way of the gangway Yeah, I was just wondering about that. I remember that gangway, it is designed to get right to the edge of the ship. Not sure how they are planning to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kperkins1982 Posted February 15, 2013 #5341 Share Posted February 15, 2013 If this was a normal cruise debarking passengers would get off to line up at CBP. That will not happen in Mobile because everyone has already been cleared. But I suppose the unreasonable are always free to jump off. after all these people have been through, what in the world should keep them for a hours long debarkation process, all we have to do is get them through customs, and they've known about the ship coming in for 4 days now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwjoe Posted February 15, 2013 #5342 Share Posted February 15, 2013 He was not that way earlier in the week Agreed. Cahill did not come off well at Tuesday's press conference. He sounded harried and his corporatespeak about restoring bathroom service to "certain sections of the ship" just sounded like they were hiding the truth. But today his words had the ring of sincerity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VK3DQ Posted February 15, 2013 #5343 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I 2nd that make all US citizens look bad to the rest of the world, money hungry lawers & drams queens from the Triumph will tarish the image of everyone who suffered aboard! I think your wrong , most people understand the way the "gutter press" work, you will find people wont believe all that they see in the media. most people I have met enjoy very much the company of people from the USA :D best Regards John Fisher Royal Navy (retired) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Rare LauraS Posted February 15, 2013 Administrators #5344 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Pax seem upbeat, waving at the cameras. They also seem patient, after all this time, to wait their turn to get off the ship. Please take a moment to reflect on the ups and downs of this week. I ask that some of you ease up on the personal attacks. Issues, not people, Have a good night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowdenj Posted February 15, 2013 #5345 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Here's local (Mobile, AL area) live television Internet feeds I'm seeing: http://www.fox10tv.com/generic/video/LiveStream_FOX10 http://www.local15tv.com/content/livestream/default/Carnival-Triumph-Heading-Toward-Mobiles-Port/iAebEeXnhUyKqbAckjeFNQ.cspx http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=sitenav#/video/cvplive/cvpstream3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasvar Posted February 15, 2013 #5346 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I wonder if they are going to try to lower that lifeboat down and out of the way of the gangway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted February 15, 2013 #5347 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Why? Carnival has nothing to hide. Why not be honest? Time will tell, but for right now, they have plenty to hide. I don't care how beloved of a company this is to some of you, in a major negative PR incident like this, there is plenty to not air to the public. Even Cahill admitted his failures up to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHCruiser Posted February 15, 2013 #5348 Share Posted February 15, 2013 What do we think about this being simply and accident or due to maintenance negligence? CNN is talking about this and I'm curious what other people think. My take on it is that there was a repair done on 1/28/13 and there was an intervening cruise where things weren't working perfectly. I have no doubt that they did another "repair" and it failed. Things like that happen. Perfect isn't in the realm of human. It's likely that the people who completed the repair have been on board all along--it's not likely that they were happy about the result, either...... I'm sure that the Carnival people want a good explanation as much as anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neecee23 Posted February 15, 2013 #5349 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Welcome back Triumph cruisers! Glad your ordeal is almost over!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsmeeker Posted February 15, 2013 #5350 Share Posted February 15, 2013 after all these people have been through, what in the world should keep them for a hours long debarkation process, all we have to do is get them through customs, and they've known about the ship coming in for 4 days now they already were cleared by CBP on the ship while it was coming up the channel into the bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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