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When pushed from behind in the buffet line I very apologetically say I am sorry for holding the person up and stand aside while making a 'go ahead' gesture. No confrontation but I get my point across with a smile.

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I work in a high stress environment dealing with people in high crisis, day after day. I also had an ex from Lunatic Fringeland. So- when confronted- my eyes glaze over and I ignore.

 

Unless you get me when I've had it- then, look out. I would never assault someone by dumping food on them or pushing back because I'm not stupid, mannerless and I just won't "go there", but I might ostracize that person in a big way.

 

 

Oh the pushing back , assault days are long over ( something about making money and having property makes you think a little clesrer before you do something that someone can sue the pants off you for :))

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I agree that there are people with bad manners on the ships. I can remember two occasions when I was rather offended. I was waiting to place my sandwich order and a man cuts in front of me and begins to give his order. I politely tell the man that there is a line, and he is cutting in front of a lot of people, and he tells me that he is in a hurry, and besides, I'm younger than he is and have more time to wait. The young man taking the orders looked at me to take my order, and the man cursed him and stomped off saying he was going to find who was in charge.

 

The second rude person appeared when we were in the PS. My husband had left the door ajar to go to the Neptune and come back. I was sitting in the living room, when I heard talking and saw people in the suite. They were taking photos, and I said excuse me that the suite was occupied. They said if I didn't want people coming in, then I should keep the door closed. While I was talking to the female, the male continued to wander around taking photos. I asked them to leave again, and our cabin steward appeared and escorted them out. Thankfully, I didn't see them again. I am happy to show the suite around to those that ask, but I do like to be asked first.

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I agree that there are people with bad manners on the ships. I can remember two occasions when I was rather offended. I was waiting to place my sandwich order and a man cuts in front of me and begins to give his order. I politely tell the man that there is a line, and he is cutting in front of a lot of people, and he tells me that he is in a hurry, and besides, I'm younger than he is and have more time to wait. The young man taking the orders looked at me to take my order, and the man cursed him and stomped off saying he was going to find who was in charge.

 

The second rude person appeared when we were in the PS. My husband had left the door ajar to go to the Neptune and come back. I was sitting in the living room, when I heard talking and saw people in the suite. They were taking photos, and I said excuse me that the suite was occupied. They said if I didn't want people coming in, then I should keep the door closed. While I was talking to the female, the male continued to wander around taking photos. I asked them to leave again, and our cabin steward appeared and escorted them out. Thankfully, I didn't see them again. I am happy to show the suite around to those that ask, but I do like to be asked first.

 

This is so typical. Part of rudeness is a sense of entitlement. The rude person is never at fault for anything! It was your fault, and the server's fault for expecting him to wait his turn.

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I had a lady that kept pushing me to get on a tender. I very politely turned around and said in a strong voice. Madam while I appreciate the physical attention your giving my rear end, I'm a married man and my wife is a jealous woman. Her husband didn't look to pleased. ;)

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When I was growing up, if I ever did something that my mother thought was ill-mannered I would get a scathing look followed by the comment "your father and I brought you up, we didn't drag you up" If I ever did something that was stupid, there would be a withering look followed by the observation that I didn't have the brains God gave to a squirrel.

 

Over the past 40 odd years my wife and I have lived in Boston, the Tampa Bay area, Houston and London. We have traveled quite extensively in Europe, the USA & Canada. During our travels we have met lots of people - in fact, the vast majority - who are incredibly friendly and polite; but, we have also crossed paths with people who seem to have left their manners at home and have bumped into people who are just downright rude and obnoxious.

 

I am sure that we are not the only ones who have had this. The thing is, not to let the latter spoil your good times because you will find that the former more than make up for them.

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This is so typical. Part of rudeness is a sense of entitlement. The rude person is never at fault for anything! It was your fault, and the server's fault for expecting him to wait his turn.

 

 

 

And this is why a glare , a sarcastic "have a nice day" or "Excuse me" as they walk away does not even faze them.

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I had a lady that kept pushing me to get on a tender. I very politely turned around and said in a strong voice. Madam while I appreciate the physical attention your giving my rear end, I'm a married man and my wife is a jealous woman. Her husband didn't look to pleased. ;)

 

Good one! :D

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Some of these incidents are truly shocking.

What happened to basic courtesy?

These goings on are just awful.

And they are not just going on during a cruise. It is everywhere these days, I am afraid. Very little courtesy/politeness exhibited these days. Just "Me-Me-Me" type behavior. Not everybody, but an alarming percentage.

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When pushed from behind in the buffet line I very apologetically say I am sorry for holding the person up and stand aside while making a 'go ahead' gesture. No confrontation but I get my point across with a smile.

 

I agree....I have done this exact same thing. It works every time and embarrasses the "pushy person" right then and there.

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I had a lady that kept pushing me to get on a tender. I very politely turned around and said in a strong voice. Madam while I appreciate the physical attention your giving my rear end, I'm a married man and my wife is a jealous woman. Her husband didn't look to pleased. ;)

 

love this! :D

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When pushed from behind in the buffet line I very apologetically say I am sorry for holding the person up and stand aside while making a 'go ahead' gesture. No confrontation but I get my point across with a smile.

 

Maybe I'm in the minority, but it bothers me when someone behind me pushes my tray with theirs. And I'm not slow, I move along at a good clip. :) I like to give a little space between my tray and the person's in front of me. :D So when I get pushed like that I tell them with a smile to please go ahead of me. They either back off or charge ahead. :D

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Love some of these stories. Now, I'll add one of my own:

I was boarding a HAL tour bus. I had walked to the bus, then climbed the stairs, and down the aisle (no reserved seats for the disabled). There was one more step up into the seat, so I was taking a little breath to muster up the strength. As I went to step up, the woman behind me gave me a good shove.

I turned around and said in a firm voice "Please don't push me." She tried to explain that she was trying to help. "By pushing me over?" was my reply, as I did almost fall.

She's lucky I didn't trip her with my cane. Accidentally, of course.

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Thank god, it was only his back. It could have been much worse. ;)

On my "carnival cruise on the Zaandam" this past week, I saw a guy scratching his head over and over with his fork. I had to turn away and not look as it was making me a little nauseous. He was there quite a while so I assumed he used his fork to eat.:eek:

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When someone cuts in front of me and reaches across my plates, dragging their sleeve through my food, I just set the tray down and leave. I have tried saying, "oh, your sleeve is in my food" and they usually says, "That's okay, I need to wash this anyway." That is why after my first cruise I prefer to dine in the MDR.

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When someone cuts in front of me and reaches across my plates, dragging their sleeve through my food, I just set the tray down and leave. I have tried saying, "oh, your sleeve is in my food" and they usually says, "That's okay, I need to wash this anyway." That is why after my first cruise I prefer to dine in the MDR.

 

Wow I can't believe they thought you were concerned about their clothes. Some peeps are not bright.

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On my "carnival cruise on the Zaandam" this past week, I saw a guy scratching his head over and over with his fork. I had to turn away and not look as it was making me a little nauseous. He was there quite a while so I assumed he used his fork to eat.:eek:

 

 

That goes beyond rudeness. The man is not civilized!

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On my "carnival cruise on the Zaandam" this past week, I saw a guy scratching his head over and over with his fork. I had to turn away and not look as it was making me a little nauseous. He was there quite a while so I assumed he used his fork to eat.:eek:

 

OMG :eek:....and once more: ieeeeeuwwwwwwwwwww!!!!

 

what is it with some guys and their forks?!?

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I had a lady that kept pushing me to get on a tender. I very politely turned around and said in a strong voice. Madam while I appreciate the physical attention your giving my rear end, I'm a married man and my wife is a jealous woman. Her husband didn't look to pleased. ;)

 

I cannot stop laughing. :D:D:D What a fabulous and quick witted reply!!!! LOVE IT!

 

Cheers, Denise

 

trikeman, hit enter before I noticed auto correct changed your title! Sorry

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I was in the buffet line on another cruise line for lunch and this lady kept pushing me in the back with her tray, so I said nicely said "since you are in a hurry please go in front of me", which she did. I then proceeded to order some food with a lot of tomato sauce and then accidently spilled my lunch on this rude lady, said Oops and walked way.

 

Why do people do mean things just to be one up? I'm going to stay away from all you mean people on my next cruise.

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Why do people do mean things just to be one up? I'm going to stay away from all you mean people on my next cruise.

I agree with you. I avoid escalation to "win the confrontation" at all costs. Almost any comment to a rude person will escalate a confrontation. You're not going to teach rude people good manners on a cruise ship. Best to ignore, then avoid in the future if possible, IMO.

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I agree with you. I avoid escalation to "win the confrontation" at all costs. Almost any comment to a rude person will escalate a confrontation. You're not going to teach rude people good manners on a cruise ship. Best to ignore, then avoid in the future if possible, IMO.

 

Or as my mother used to say---- 'two wrongs do not make a right'. :)

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I agree with you. I avoid escalation to "win the confrontation" at all costs. Almost any comment to a rude person will escalate a confrontation. You're not going to teach rude people good manners on a cruise ship. Best to ignore, then avoid in the future if possible, IMO.

 

Just maybe the rude person might think twice. If you do nothing they certainly won't change.

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I, like most of the posters, have been the recipient of much rudeness - not just on ships but also in the "real world" when we get home. But the things that continually get my hackles up are when people are rude to crew members just because they are crew. For instance, a few years ago while on a New Zealand cruise on the Volendam, we were waiting in line for the shuttle bus to take us out of the port area and to downtown (almost every port in NZ requires these). There were some crew members ahead of us - from the bar staff and kitchen. I had asked one of the women, who was a server in the Ocean Bar, if she was going to enjoy a day off in port, but she told us that their group only had 2 hours off and needed to be back at work. It was a 30 minute drive in to Christchurch from the port each way, so they were rushing. At that same time, a group of passengers started pushing past them, telling them loudly that they were crew and even though we were off the ship, they shouldn't have to wait for crew members. My husband (who was a college football player - linebacker - and quite intimidating) quickly stepped in front of their leader and not only made them go back to the back of the line, but also made them apologize to the off duty crew members. Unfortunately we see this all the time though - crew members off in port enjoying themselves and other passengers just treating them like servants and non-equals.

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