Age restrictions in Bars

[rottiebabe]

I am donating a sense of humor to you!!! ;):p:D

Please feel free to use it often!!! :)

 

Hahahaha this I like! :D

[charmay]

Id rather see a child sitting nicely up the bar.

Than running around squealing;)

If there behaving themselves whats the problem?

[xxHadleyxx]

OP--in my teens an their friends can often found playing cards, etc in bar/lounge areas without any adult with them at all. It's never an issue :)

 

Id like to suggest if there is table seating in the lounge - if your children are with you - sit there - nothing gets me more than if there is a packed bar with no available seating and there are children sitting at the bar. Don't get me wrong - I have no problem with kids being IN the bars - just not AT the bar. I guess this comes from the fact that in my state I do believe its illegal for a minor to sit at a bar that serves liquor - even if accompanied by an adult. Plus, I just think its a nice courtesy for a child to leave a bar seat open for an adult to use. I hope no one takes this the wrong way.

 

I can't think of a time when my teens have sat AT the bar on RCI--it is not generally the best for conversation. That said, we wiled away many hours at the Ice Bar on Celebrity. Their virgin cocktails were more expensive than my Coke (DH was having maritnis--does that make it okay?) and everyone was behaving. We pay just as much for their cruise fare as for ours so they have just as much right to a seat (ANY seat) in a multi age venue as you do.

[LovesCruising]

The ship is not in "your state" so basically the kids can sit wherever they want. They paid just like you.

 

Just because you disapprove of it does not mean they have to move for you..

 

 

 

I was waiting to get flamed on this one:)

Again, please don't misunderstand - I never said I disapprove of kids in a bar - I just think its a nice gesture to allow an adult the "bar" space to sit and enjoy rather than having a child on a bar stool.

 

Your right, Im entitled to my opinion - and so are you. Enjoy.

[xxHadleyxx]

I was waiting to get flamed on this one:)

Again, please don't misunderstand - I never said I disapprove of kids in a bar - I just think its a nice gesture to allow an adult the "bar" space to sit and enjoy rather than having a child on a bar stool.

 

Your right, Im entitled to my opinion - and so are you. Enjoy.

 

I'm curious, especially given that many passengers come from cultures where kids are often in venues that involve drinking, why you feel it is a "nice gesture" or something to ask others on CC to do? I'd really like to understand where you are coming from here.

 

I can almost see asking that people NOT ordering drinks leave spots at the are for those who do, but given that the non alcoholic and alcoholic drinks are ALL bought at the bought--ages is really not an issue in that respect.

[gerif]

That's what I was hoping, my DD is going through the "I want to be an anti social Teen" stage so I can't see her wanting to do any activities she would rather sit and scowl at us :eek:

 

Ah, one of those. DGD is in that stage (16) but would rather retreat with her iPad than sit and converse with the adults. She just might meet a like minded friend on the ship, one can hope.

[LovesCruising]

I'm curious, especially given that many passengers come from cultures where kids are often in venues that involve drinking, why you feel it is a "nice gesture" or something to ask others on CC to do? I'd really like to understand where you are coming from here.

 

I can almost see asking that people NOT ordering drinks leave spots at the are for those who do, but given that the non alcoholic and alcoholic drinks are ALL bought at the bought--ages is really not an issue in that respect.

 

Im not just asking others on CC - I feel like its called having good manners. A bar is typically an adult venue. If a bar is crowded and bar space (stools) are being taken up by children - its a nice gesture to allow the adult to sit and the child to move. When we were being raised, we were taught to respect adults. Unfortunately its not so much that way these days. Look, if parents choose to have their child sitting at a bar with them, that's their choice. Its just my opinion. If a bar was crowded, its not uncommon for a gentlemen to give up his seat - why should it be any different for a child? I guess we could debate this on and on - its not that big a deal - it was only a suggestion. :)

[sleepless]

Im not just asking others on CC - I feel like its called having good manners. A bar is typically an adult venue. If a bar is crowded and bar space (stools) are being taken up by children - its a nice gesture to allow the adult to sit and the child to move. When we were being raised, we were taught to respect adults. Unfortunately its not so much that way these days. Look, if parents choose to have their child sitting at a bar with them, that's their choice. Its just my opinion. If a bar was crowded, its not uncommon for a gentlemen to give up his seat - why should it be any different for a child? I guess we could debate this on and on - its not that big a deal - it was only a suggestion. :)

 

 

I am a woman, 60+ years of age. If I went into a bar/lounge and there was no room at the bar, I would wait for a seat to open up, or go else where. i would not expect a man - gentle or otherwise - to give up his seat. Especially if he were there with a group of friends, or his wife/girlfriend, and was a paying customer. Manners have nothing to do with it. He had paid for the right to sit there.

 

 

Besides, women are now liberated. We can't have it both ways - gender courtesies as well as equal pay.

[galavant3]

Its just my opinion. If a bar was crowded, its not uncommon for a gentlemen to give up his seat - why should it be any different for a child? :)

 

When my kids were younger, I would have expected them to give up their seat for an adult. Maybe it is a cultural/regional thing. I don't have a problem with kids sitting at a bar on a cruise ship but where I live, it isn't permitted (I think after a certain time of day but I'm not sure).

 

Because we are a family of 5, we always sit at a table anyway....it just seems easier to converse.

[Jenn31708]

I think it's pretty sad that your children, ages 14 and 12, should be responsible for you to get back to your cabin

What kind of an example are you setting for them?

Please think about that!

 

It was obviously a joke... lighten up :D

[RockeyBullwinkle]

I am a woman, 60+ years of age. If I went into a bar/lounge and there was no room at the bar, I would wait for a seat to open up, or go else where. i would not expect a man - gentle or otherwise - to give up his seat. Especially if he were there with a group of friends, or his wife/girlfriend, and was a paying customer. Manners have nothing to do with it. He had paid for the right to sit there.

 

 

Besides, women are now liberated. We can't have it both ways - gender courtesies as well as equal pay.

 

being a small town country boy when i first went to work at the hospital I would smile say hi to almost anyone. After holding a few of those heavy glass doors for 'ladies' coming behind me and they purposely would leave me standing looking stupid as they use the other door. I got into hosp mode.. look straight ahead, don't smile or hi/good morning/whatever to anyone particularly the mature women.

 

I find it odd that because you have equal or better pay that common courtesy no longer applies.

[xxHadleyxx]

Im not just asking others on CC - I feel like its called having good manners. A bar is typically an adult venue. If a bar is crowded and bar space (stools) are being taken up by children - its a nice gesture to allow the adult to sit and the child to move. When we were being raised, we were taught to respect adults. Unfortunately its not so much that way these days. Look, if parents choose to have their child sitting at a bar with them, that's their choice. Its just my opinion. If a bar was crowded, its not uncommon for a gentlemen to give up his seat - why should it be any different for a child? I guess we could debate this on and on - its not that big a deal - it was only a suggestion. :)

 

Thanks for answering:)

 

I think part of it is a different cultural outlook. It would never occur to me to see a bar area in a multi age lounge, which hosts things like trivia games and all ages karaoke as an "adult venue" In the night club? Yes. But otherwise, it is just a space that serves the drinks to ALL ages in a place set aside for all ages. Then again, where I live, my 16 year old can buy her own drinks, and even the 14 year old is regularly served after dinner drinks if they are brought out without asking, or mulled wine at a Christmas Market even when he asks for the kids' punch, etc.

 

As far as respect goes--I like to think that I have brought my children up to respect EVERYONE. Age does not confer some great aura about someone--and lack thereof does not make someone less important. I, or my kids, would offer a seat (if none were available) to someone who appeared to have an issue which would make standing difficult (holding a baby, pregnant, used a cane to walk, etc) regardless of their age--but I would not expect my teens to offer a seat to another able bodied adult just because that person was older. That idea is rather foreign to me and seems more disrespectful to the youth in society than respectful of anyone.

[xxHadleyxx]

being a small town country boy when i first went to work at the hospital I would smile say hi to almost anyone. After holding a few of those heavy glass doors for 'ladies' coming behind me and they purposely would leave me standing looking stupid as they use the other door. I got into hosp mode.. look straight ahead, don't smile or hi/good morning/whatever to anyone particularly the mature women.

 

I find it odd that because you have equal or better pay that common courtesy no longer applies.

 

I'm a woman. I smile, say "hi" and hold doors for people of all ages and genders all the time. No one has ever been rude as you describe to me. Likewise, if someone else (of any gender) does that for me, I smile and say thank you and go through the door they hold. This has held true for me in Texas, Colorado, various states in the midwest and New England, and here in Germany.

 

(BTW--American women still do not have :"equal" pay--much less better--on the whole)

[galavant3]

Thanks for answering:)

 

I think part of it is a different cultural outlook.

 

I totally agree. Bars in Europe seem to be more "family" oriented by nature. In the US we tend to think of them as "adult" venues (or at least that has been my experience).

 

Cruise ships are so diverse, I really don't think it matters one way or another. Offer the seat, don't offer the seat. Whatever feels right to you.

[LovesCruising]

I am a woman, 60+ years of age. If I went into a bar/lounge and there was no room at the bar, I would wait for a seat to open up, or go else where. i would not expect a man - gentle or otherwise - to give up his seat. Especially if he were there with a group of friends, or his wife/girlfriend, and was a paying customer. Manners have nothing to do with it. He had paid for the right to sit there.

 

 

Besides, women are now liberated. We can't have it both ways - gender courtesies as well as equal pay.

 

Hi Sleepless - we are in the same age group - I do agree with you 100

% - but it does happen. A lot of men will readily offer their seat to a woman because they were raised that way. You can choose to accept the seat or not. But its a nice gesture. I don't expect it but isn't it nice when its offered? Of course he paid for his "right" - we are not in disagreement.

 

When my kids were younger, I would have expected them to give up their seat for an adult. Maybe it is a cultural/regional thing. I don't have a problem with kids sitting at a bar on a cruise ship but where I live, it isn't permitted (I think after a certain time of day but I'm not sure).

 

Because we are a family of 5, we always sit at a table anyway....it just seems easier to converse.

 

Maybe it is cultural or regional - IDK

[Cuizer2]

We are off on the EOS in August, this being our first cruise was wondering if there was an age restriction in any of the bars. Our DD (14) and DS (12) will be with us (we need someone responsible to get us back to our cabins ;)) will they be able to sit with us in the bars?

 

First of all, EOS could be Explorer of the Seas or Enchantment of the Seas. Second, what kind of bar? There are bars of soap, prison bars, arm bar, gold bars and of course bars that you can drink at. The bars on the cruise ships do not have an age requirement, unless the person wants a drink. So yes, your children can sit next to you as long as they are not drinking any "adult" beverages.

 

However, the same is not true in the casino. Your children can walk through the casino, but cannot stop and watch, and thus could not sit with you while you play in the casino.

[LovesCruising]

being a small town country boy when i first went to work at the hospital I would smile say hi to almost anyone. After holding a few of those heavy glass doors for 'ladies' coming behind me and they purposely would leave me standing looking stupid as they use the other door. I got into hosp mode.. look straight ahead, don't smile or hi/good morning/whatever to anyone particularly the mature women.

 

I find it odd that because you have equal or better pay that common courtesy no longer applies.

 

I am truly sorry you were EVER treated this way. Isn't it sad how people can act sometimes? :(

[rottiebabe]

It was obviously a joke... lighten up :D

 

I agree, he didn't even answer my question:D The laughable thing is even if we wanted to get fall down drunk we couldn't afford too......Have you seen the prices :eek::eek:

[Jenn31708]

I agree, he didn't even answer my question:D The laughable thing is even if we wanted to get fall down drunk we couldn't afford too......Have you seen the prices :eek::eek:

 

 

 

We were on Explorer in March. Hubby and I wanted to take the other adults out for a drink, and our 17 year old nephew wanted to tag along. We brought him into the Viking Crown Lounge one night, it was well after 10 pm. No one had a problem. We sat at a table and he ordered a sprite.... no issues.

[babyher]

I agree, he didn't even answer my question:D The laughable thing is even if we wanted to get fall down drunk we couldn't afford too......Have you seen the prices :eek::eek:

 

 

 

 

I knew you were kidding. I joke like that about my kids to. .. :)

 

 

As soon as my kids all became old enough to start clubbing and bar hopping the first thing they mentioned was how fast you can blow through cash when you go out drinking. :)

 

 

Funny I used to say the same thing 25-30 years ago and drinks were a fraction of what they are now . *LOL*

[ldubs]

Your right, Im entitled to my opinion - and so are you. Enjoy.

 

It appears you are entitled to an opinion, but not entitled to a seat. :)

[sleepless]

being a small town country boy when i first went to work at the hospital I would smile say hi to almost anyone. After holding a few of those heavy glass doors for 'ladies' coming behind me and they purposely would leave me standing looking stupid as they use the other door. I got into hosp mode.. look straight ahead, don't smile or hi/good morning/whatever to anyone particularly the mature women.

 

I find it odd that because you have equal or better pay that common courtesy no longer applies.

 

 

I am not saying that common courtesy should not apply. I am saying that a man should not have to give up his seat to me simply because I am female. I am capable of standing until the next available seat should open up. A man should be able to continue to sit with his spouse/party while I am waiting for that seat (or seats) to open up so that I can sit with my spouse/party.

 

By the way, I do look over my shoulder when opening a door to see if anyone is behind me. I will hold the door for them (rather then allowing the door to hit them) regardless if they are male, female, young or old. That is a common courtesy. If they were to choose another door, that is their choice. I simply smile, and go on with my day. And the next time I exit a door, it still look behind me, and willingly hold the door for those behind me.

[sleepless]

I'm a woman. I smile, say "hi" and hold doors for people of all ages and genders all the time. No one has ever been rude as you describe to me. Likewise, if someone else (of any gender) does that for me, I smile and say thank you and go through the door they hold. This has held true for me in Texas, Colorado, various states in the midwest and New England, and here in Germany.

 

(BTW--American women still do not have :"equal" pay--much less better--on the whole)

 

 

Yes, sadly, it is true. Women still do not have totally "equal" pay. Luckily, for me, in the job I work at, the pay is not gender/age biased. We are all payed equally according to job description.

[ldubs]

On Adventure of the Seas earlier this month, a woman complained about people reading their books in the lounge (during daytime). If I understood, she felt her need outweighed those of the readers.

[Familygoboston]

On Adventure of the Seas earlier this month, a woman complained about people reading their books in the lounge (during daytime). If I understood, she felt her need outweighed those of the readers.

 

Hunh? That's just weird! During the day most of the lounges are practically empty! Often, not even a bartender! Most are at the pool bars:D. Seriously, the woman felt uncomfortable because people weren't drinking? During the day? I can see if a whole group set up a bridge tournament at 8pm and there wasnt a seat to be found, but during the day?:confused: