fergusonvt Posted August 28, 2013 #76 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Simplistic. A dying art on Cruise Critic. Doesn't a "simplistic" view make things so much nicer? :) Not sure about nicer but it sure doesn't make things simpler. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryano Posted August 28, 2013 #77 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I'm not sure where in "North Georgia" you are, but I'm guessing your local place with the special for two isn't in a major metropolitan or resort area. No its not. You most certainly got me on that one. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGSB11 Posted August 28, 2013 #78 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I'll add my two pennies. I have ate at many a Steakhouses here in the Chicagoland area and other areas: Mortons, Sullivans, Shula's, Carnevino (Vegas), Prime (Vegas). As well as the chains Outback, Texas Roadhouse, etc... I was very impressed with the steaks at Chops. I had the 10oz Fillet Med Rare and DW had the 7oz Fillet Med Rare as well. I would equate the MDR (prime rib and other meats) as being of a National Chain quality in an upscale setting (Outback and others). The Fillet at Chops on the Allure was very good, I personally would put in in the category of Mortons and others, but maybe not in one of the top 5 spots...top 10 for sure. $30pp - definitely. The desserts and sides are of an even greater quality than the MDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004corvette Posted August 28, 2013 #79 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I remember when it was $20 and thinking it would be worth it for more, so $30 is still worth it in my opinion. after my 2 appetizers i also ordered a shrimp entree off the main entree list which cost an additional $10.00...then finished it all off with a delicious dessert.....so total cost of my meal was $40.00 which i considered a bargain.....here in the Washington, DC area that meal would have easily exceeded $100.00. yes i enjoy eating.....bon appetit.....LOL....:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryano Posted August 28, 2013 #80 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I would equate the MDR (prime rib and other meats) as being of a National Chain quality in an upscale setting (Outback and others). Pretty much my sentiments exactly :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted August 28, 2013 #81 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Pretty much my sentiments exactly :) Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted August 28, 2013 #82 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I always like to try all the specialty restaurants and make my own decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowGOT Posted August 28, 2013 #83 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Simplistic. A dying art on Cruise Critic. Doesn't a "simplistic" view make things so much nicer? :) Yes sir! But some folk just love to pick nits!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC1957 Posted August 28, 2013 #84 Share Posted August 28, 2013 The bean counter in me needs to point out that if you are trying to decide if the meal is worth the $30 per person or comparing it to top quality steak houses your are making a mistake. You have already paid for the meal that night in the MDR...and the cost of that meal will not be refunded to you if you choose to eat at Chops. Therefore you need to determine the value of the meal you are passing up and add it to the $30 per person at Chops. So...if the meal in the MDR is equal to a $20 per person entree then Chops is $50 per person. For that price it better be an EXCELLENT steak...top quality service and environment should be a given at that price point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergusonvt Posted August 28, 2013 #85 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Not sure about nicer but it sure doesn't make things simpler. :) Sorry, that should ready does make things simpler. I didn't see desserts posted on the last Chops menu I saw. Do they change or are they static? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGSB11 Posted August 28, 2013 #86 Share Posted August 28, 2013 The bean counter in me needs to point out that if you are trying to decide if the meal is worth the $30 per person or comparing it to top quality steak houses your are making a mistake. You have already paid for the meal that night in the MDR...and the cost of that meal will not be refunded to you if you choose to eat at Chops. Therefore you need to determine the value of the meal you are passing up and add it to the $30 per person at Chops. So...if the meal in the MDR is equal to a $20 per person entree then Chops is $50 per person. For that price it better be an EXCELLENT steak...top quality service and environment should be a given at that price point. To that, one might argue that in essence the MDR meal at that point is a sunk cost since it is already factored into the fare -- therefore that cost should be ignored as it is not an opportunity cost as you prescribe. It is gone the minute you pay the final payment months ahead...whether you eat there, at Chops, or not at all. :D The decision is really based on the economic theory of Utility...but that is another story ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macruisefan Posted August 28, 2013 #87 Share Posted August 28, 2013 To that, one might argue that in essence the MDR meal at that point is a sunk cost since it is already factored into the fare -- therefore that cost should be ignored as it is not an opportunity cost as you prescribe. It is gone the minute you pay the final payment months ahead...whether you eat there, at Chops, or not at all. :D The decision is really based on the economic theory of Utility...but that is another story ;) I agree with this as well. The MDR meal is a "sunk" cost. It is not however "free". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryano Posted August 28, 2013 #88 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I agree with this as well. The MDR meal is a "sunk" cost. It is not however "free". Nothing is "free" on a cruise ship and I do chuckle everytime I see that word around here ;) One way or another, you are paying for it! Whether its an upcharge or included in the cruise fare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGSB11 Posted August 28, 2013 #89 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Nothing is "free" on a cruise ship and I do chuckle everytime I see that word around here ;) One way or another, you are paying for it! Whether its an upcharge or included in the cruise fare! FALSE: They are happy to provide you with a complimentary copy of your SeaPass account balance on the last evening of the cruise :D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC1957 Posted August 28, 2013 #90 Share Posted August 28, 2013 FALSE: They are happy to provide you with a complimentary copy of your SeaPass account balance on the last evening of the cruise :D. Don't you think they have factored the cost of paper, toner, the employee pay who printed the statement, maybe the pay of the person who delivered it, the associated benefits, etc. into the cost they need to cover when setting the prices for the cruise. TANSTAAFL!!!! :p:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouhunter Posted August 28, 2013 #91 Share Posted August 28, 2013 The bean counter in me needs to point out that if you are trying to decide if the meal is worth the $30 per person or comparing it to top quality steak houses your are making a mistake. You have already paid for the meal that night in the MDR...and the cost of that meal will not be refunded to you if you choose to eat at Chops. Therefore you need to determine the value of the meal you are passing up and add it to the $30 per person at Chops. So...if the meal in the MDR is equal to a $20 per person entree then Chops is $50 per person. For that price it better be an EXCELLENT steak...top quality service and environment should be a given at that price point. I'd rather shoot myself in the foot. It would be less painful than going through life making simple decisions that complicated.......:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted August 28, 2013 #92 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I'd rather shoot myself in the foot. It would be less painful than going through life making simple decisions that complicated.......:D My goodness, ain't that the truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGSB11 Posted August 28, 2013 #93 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Don't you think they have factored the cost of paper, toner, the employee pay who printed the statement, maybe the pay of the person who delivered it, the associated benefits, etc. into the cost they need to cover when setting the prices for the cruise. TANSTAAFL!!!! :p:D I stand corrected. That is why my total fare was not an even dollar amount! They needed that extra $0.74 for this purpose! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted August 28, 2013 #94 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Its whatever the internet says it is or not, wither its a review or cc its still the internet:rolleyes: Go and make up your own mind See what I mean OP. Several pages and its still the internet:D:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC1957 Posted August 28, 2013 #95 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I'd rather shoot myself in the foot. It would be less painful than going through life making simple decisions that complicated.......:D That goes for me as well. I was just pointing out that if you are going to compare the experiences at Chops with say Ruth's Crist you need to consider the real cost. Fortuantely we are in a place, for the most part, that if we want a nice meal at a top establishment we just go there and eat. We enjoy those experiences...and save our money but not smoking, VERY limited adult beverages, no cable TV, etc. Life is all about choices. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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