No powerboards allowed on RCI ships

[kjets]

i read on the Carnival facebook site that a power board with a surge protector is not allowed

 

We were on The Spirit in February and had no problem, so not sure.

[The_Big_M]

We always make sure to take a power board with a surge protector. Do others think if you have put thought into taking a power board with a surge protector they may let it pass?

 

I wouldn't expect the surge protection aspect to change whether it's let onboard or not. I.e. if you got it on with surge protection you'd get it on without, and vice versa.

 

Surge protection won't prevent overheating, or limit power draw for example, so it doesn't add any benefits or improve safety from the cruise lines perspective.

 

The only thing it does is improve safety for appliances that you have attached - in case too much power came through at one time (which isn't likely to be an issue on a cruise).

[wildweston]

I have always taken a power board without any problem, though I do only charge while I am in the room and tend to turn it off when I am not there.

[thied]

Maybe like the one I have at home, it has four outlets and a circuit breaker, If 10 amps is exceeded a little button pops out and turns it off.

 

Thatwould work in Australia, as Australia has rules about what amp out we have Australia wide eg 10amp 20amp 30amp, But who knows what amps are the out lets on ships it could 6 or 8. how can you be sure? if it was 6 or 8 amp out let, your 10 amp pop out button will pop out after it damaged the ships wireing.

[aussiedisneyfan]

here is an idea has any or thought to ask if they can hire or lend a power board from the cruise line?

 

The problem is that in this instance we are talking about US visiting ships and they will most likely have US plugs.

 

Holland America has a limited number of powerboards/strips that they loan out but they were US sockets. Also the one that was given to us was in appalling condition with wires hanging out of the cord and loose fittings.

[thied]

The problem is that in this instance we are talking about US visiting ships and they will most likely have US plugs.

 

Holland America has a limited number of powerboards/strips that they loan out but they were US sockets. Also the one that was given to us was in appalling condition with wires hanging out of the cord and loose fittings.

usa power out lets are way different to Australian out lets and you need a adapter

 

 

from reading on the poaustralia board on cc they pluging up the earth terminal so you can plug in a power board, i can see why they doing this, so they can manage there electricity and be more efficient about it, so they the cruise line can save money on there fuel costs

Edited October 22, 2013 by thied

[The_Big_M]

from reading on the poaustralia board on cc they pluging up the earth terminal so you can plug in a power board, i can see why they doing this, so they can manage there electricity and be more efficient about it, so they the cruise line can save money on there fuel costs

 

They wouldn't be reducing supply, and hence saving money. The current sockets would continue to be supplied as they are.

 

It's a safety change.

[thied]

They wouldn't be reducing supply, and hence saving money. The current sockets would continue to be supplied as they are.

 

It's a safety change.

I did not say they were reducing supply, I said they cam manage there supply better, if they control how many thing can be pluged in at each out let they can manage the supply better. exemple if have 1000 out lets with a power board with 4 out lets in it = 4000 out lets could used hence more power has to produced, if they can control every cabin down to 2 applience they could save money ( as most cabins have 2 out lets which mean 8 out lets per cabin then it could be 2000 outlets =8000 outlets.

[Sandielle]

The problem is that in this instance we are talking about US visiting ships and they will most likely have US plugs.

 

Holland America has a limited number of powerboards/strips that they loan out but they were US sockets. Also the one that was given to us was in appalling condition with wires hanging out of the cord and loose fittings.

 

Hmmm, that doesn't say much for their safety programme, does it? :rolleyes:

[The_Big_M]

I did not say they were reducing supply, I said they cam manage there supply better, if they control how many thing can be pluged in at each out let they can manage the supply better. exemple if have 1000 out lets with a power board with 4 out lets in it = 4000 out lets could used hence more power has to produced, if they can control every cabin down to 2 applience they could save money ( as most cabins have 2 out lets which mean 8 out lets per cabin then it could be 2000 outlets =8000 outlets.

 

Except it doesn't work that way.

 

They're not (and couldn't) pump out 4 times the power because they expect everyone has a power board.

[thied]

Except it doesn't work that way.

 

They're not (and couldn't) pump out 4 times the power because they expect everyone has a power board.

 

the same way our power companies pump out 10000 times more power at any givin time they want or have to. if the power companies could control how much each house hold can use by limiting the out lets and power boards, they would do it.

 

Do you think that on a ship they just start up there generator/ generators and just let them run max out put all the time with no control over how much power they produce?

 

eg if they can generate a max of 2000 kilowatts for each generater and they have three of them, which is a max of 6000 kilowatts they know how power they need to power the ships utilties and engines, the power usage in the cabins are what they are tring to control how much power each cabin uses the could run there generaters at 4000 kilowatts or less wich over the course of year could save them millions dollars.

[The_Big_M]

the same way our power companies pump out 10000 times more power at any givin time they want or have to. if the power companies could control how much each house hold can use by limiting the out lets and power boards, they would do it.

 

Do you think that on a ship they just start up there generator/ generators and just let them run max out put all the time with no control over how much power they produce?

 

No, quite the opposite. But it seems closer to what you're saying.

 

eg if they can generate a max of 2000 kilowatts for each generater and they have three of them, which is a max of 6000 kilowatts they know how power they need to power the ships utilties and engines, the power usage in the cabins are what they are tring to control how much power each cabin uses the could run there generaters at 4000 kilowatts or less wich over the course of year could save them millions dollars.

 

Which is still irrelevant and incorrect.

 

Having a powerboard attached does not enable the wall socket and circuit to handle more power than it is already rated to. Hence, they don't supply more power than they already can for those sockets.

Edited October 23, 2013 by The_Big_M

[thied]

No, quite the opposite. But it seems closer to what you're saying.

 

 

 

Which is still irrelevant and incorrect.

 

Having a powerboard attached does not enable the wall socket and circuit to handle more power than it is already rated to. Hence, they don't supply more power than they already can for those sockets.

and that how fires start over loading the out let:D so an eletrical engineer would know this? here is some thing ofr you to work out

how many power out lets to you have in your? and most homes have 80 amp circit breaker attached to that would 20 amp circit breaker and on that circit you can have 10 x 10 amp out lets, let me know what you come up with

Edited October 23, 2013 by thied

[thied]

and that how fires start over loading the out let:D so an eletrical engineer would know this? here is some thing ofr you to work out

how many power out lets to you have in your? and most homes have 80 amp circit breaker attached to that would 20 amp circit breaker and on that circit you can have 10 x 10 amp out lets, let me know what you come up with

 

so we have 10 10 amp out lets on 20 AMP circit which a common size in every house,if were to plug in three 10 amp applience and turn them on you trip the 20 amp circit.

[The_Big_M]

so we have 10 10 amp out lets on 20 AMP circit which a common size in every house,if were to plug in three 10 amp applience and turn them on you trip the 20 amp circit.

 

Right.... which has nothing to do with them supplying more capacity than is needed on the theoretical basis that everyone is overloading their outlets.

[keagle]

so we have 10 10 amp out lets on 20 AMP circit which a common size in every house,if were to plug in three 10 amp applience and turn them on you trip the 20 amp circit.

 

 

Houses in Australia use 10 amp for normal outlets and 15 amps for electric stoves and hot water.

[thied]

Houses in Australia use 10 amp for normal outlets and 15 amps for electric stoves and hot water.

 

yes you are right 10 amp out lets on a 20 amp circit mmm how does that work.

 

20 amp for power

10 amp for lighting

80 amp main

15 amp for stove as it only has up two apliences hard wired into that circit .and depending on what size stove it may be higher amp breaker. unlike a power circit with a 20 amp breaker that circit can many 10 amp out lets on it . I agree with cruise lines and there policy with power boards, or at very least they be tested and taged yearly as it is law in any work place.

 

by controling how many thing can be pluged at any one time is safer and can save them in the cost of generating the power.

 

eg we have a 4 out let power board it has 4 things charging total amps are around 3amps int he bath room there is another 4 out let power pluged in with 2 shavers and mum pluges in her hair dryer and the daughter pluges in her curling iron that cabin is now pulling around 15 amps .

by have no power boards it would cut amps needed to a max of 5amps per out let, unless some gets cloths dry or washing machine on board:D

[The_Big_M]

by have no power boards it would cut amps needed to a max of 5amps per out let, unless some gets cloths dry or washing machine on board:D

 

What a pity then when someone plugs the in-room hairdryer in, or the room attendant tries to clean the room with a vacuum cleaner, and it doesn't work. :rolleyes:

 

The change is being made for safety, the cruise lines aren't going to spend more money putting new breakers in all their boards with a new limit and stop appliances from working.

Edited October 24, 2013 by The_Big_M

[thied]

What a pity then when someone plugs the in-room hairdryer in, or the room attendant tries to clean the room with a vacuum cleaner, and it doesn't work. :rolleyes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The change is being made for safety, the cruise lines aren't going to spend more money putting new breakers in all their boards with a new limit and stop appliances from working.

 

no one has said they were putting new breakers in at all, but what has been said they as said on another post on cc they P&O os are pluging up the earth pin on the out lets to stop power board being pluged in, but if any want to be smart they can all ways cut off the earth pin on there power board so it fits into out let.

 

 

 

if they did plug those two items that would only about 9- 10 amp combined in two 10 amp out lets which at the limit of 10 amp circit breaker which they would not use for moltable 10 amp out let circit and be useing 20 amp or more breaker depending they useing 2.5mm or bigger:rolleyes:

 

unless the as you say the room attendent was in the bath room with the some with hair dryer

Edited October 24, 2013 by thied

[NSWP]

no one has said they were putting new breakers in at all, but what has been said they as said on another post on cc they P&O os are pluging up the earth pin on the out lets to stop power board being pluged in, but if any want to be smart they can all ways cut off the earth pin on there power board so it fits into out let.

 

 

 

if they did plug those two items that would only about 9- 10 amp combined in two 10 amp out lets which at the limit of 10 amp circit breaker which they would not use for moltable 10 amp out let circit and be useing 20 amp or more breaker depending they useing 2.5mm or bigger:rolleyes:

 

unless the as you say the room attendent was in the bath room with the some with hair dryer

Are you a certified Electrician thied ? You are giving out dangerous information there.

 

As for pax admitting they take powerboards on board the ships, we need the Power Board Police now, to work alongside the Alcohol Police and Laundry Rage Police on the ships.

Edited October 24, 2013 by NSWP

[KarateMan]

I still cant believe there are people out there that are brazen enough and daft enough to break the rules and not understand the consequences of their actions. It really makes the blood boil to see and hear acts of stupidity as it should make everyone's blood boil who upholds and obeys the rules.

[keagle]

Are you a certified Electrician thied ? You are giving out dangerous information there.

 

If he is, I would not call him to change the wire in a fuse. Just because an item says something like 10amp 5 watt does not mean it draws 10amp. It means it needs to be on a 10amp circuit and it draws 5 watt. Big difference.

[The_Big_M]

If you're going to start tampering with plugs, why not just take off the face plate and bring your own wires in to get around it?

 

Good luck when you get caught doing either of those things though. If they put a block in like that to prevent powerboards, and you've wilfully bypassed it like that, I don't see them being too accommodating.

 

Seriously, the things some people suggest... :rolleyes:

[Aussieflyer]

KarateMan, I can't believe this thread still has legs! Four pages on power boards and the rights and wrongs of shipboard electronics.

I admit we have taken a travel power board on cruises but probably will not now. The suggestion to take a double adapter seems odd. IMO they are more dodgy than a power board.

[CCC's]

I still cant believe there are people out there that are brazen enough and daft enough to break the rules and not understand the consequences of their actions. It really makes the blood boil to see and hear acts of stupidity as it should make everyone's blood boil who upholds and obeys the rules.

 

To add a little levity here because things are getting soooo serious..... does boiling blood and a boggled brain hurt ?? Furthermore, I hope it is not contagious.