Rare LMaxwell Posted December 13, 2013 #1 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I started a thread to ask people what they wanted to see return or changed on CCL ships to entice people back to the line. Instead I got met with a lot of feedback by people who said they are happy with the product that is offered now and they don't want things that would raise prices. PERFECTLY FAIR RESPONSE. But, you know what's I found odd? No one here has said they want a lower price. Isn't that odd? So they are all saying nothing about Carnival could be changed to encourage them to come back more, or more often? What if I told you that CCL cruise rates would be 25% off what they are today, across the board, what would you be willing to give up to accept that cut? What would you be willing to get rid of to save 25% off of todays fares? We could eliminate MDR breakfast/brunch. We could make it where MDR is dinner ONLY, the rest of the food is on the Lido. We could eliminate towel animals. We could eliminate TV programming. We could eliminate luggage mats for the bed. We could eliminate the sampler toiletry kit. So many people claim they "could care less" (when they meant "couldn't care less) about making improvements to the product, so now let me put to the community plainly; what would you give up if it meant saving 25% off todays rates. Would it make a difference in you choosing CCL and would you cruise more often at a reduced rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfadj Posted December 13, 2013 #2 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Dont give them more ideas, they have taken away enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted December 13, 2013 Author #3 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Dont give them more ideas, they have taken away enough. Hey, please come in to the other thread and feel free to make suggestions about things you would like to see restored/changed and if you personally would be willing to see a fare increase to have them, if so how much, etc. I guess you answer for here is that you don't want more taken away and the fares are low enough now for your comfort and that you wouldn't want any more cuts made to reduce the fares. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okgirl Posted December 13, 2013 #4 Share Posted December 13, 2013 They could eliminate any of the Branded venues like the George Lopez Comedy Club or the Guy's burgers. They probably paid a pretty penny to use those names.......same goes with the new Dr. Seuss branding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloafsfan Posted December 13, 2013 #5 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Evening shows and live music. If they got rid of those singers and dancers, and could give me a 25% cruise fare reduction across the board, I'd be happy with the comedy clubs, kareoke and DJs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBroxon Posted December 13, 2013 #6 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Just so you know, the sample toiletries that you mentioned are free of cost for the cruise line. They are free advertising for the companies whose products are there, just like a sample you would receive in the mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arush5268d Posted December 13, 2013 #7 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Please remove this thread. If Carnival sees that the customers will allow other things to be cut then they will likely do so. Soon it will just be a metal hull and things that resemble beds. Carnival will be rebranded with Wal-Mart colors. They will introduce a Brilliant, Ground BReaking, Industry Shattering new category of rooms - combined room lodging. You'll share a large room (say, 30'x30') with 20-50 other cruisers, stacked 2-4 high depending on your cruise fare. This way they can cram 5 times as many people onto a ship and really drive profits through the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arush5268d Posted December 13, 2013 #8 Share Posted December 13, 2013 They could eliminate any of the Branded venues like the George Lopez Comedy Club or the Guy's burgers. They probably paid a pretty penny to use those names.......same goes with the new Dr. Seuss branding. +1 A huge waste of money, IMHO. Guy might have had his hands in a bit but I doubt Lopez did anything otyher than film those introduction videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinfanatic Posted December 13, 2013 #9 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Financial Breakdown of Typical Cruiser Disney Cruise Lines’ Disney Wonder in Port Canaveral (Photo credit: Wikipedia) Ever wonder where the money goes? Here is a break down of the estimated 2013 average cruise revenue and expense per passenger for all cruise lines world wide. The average per passenger per day is projected to be $200.85, with $152.39 ticket price and $48.47 on board spending (average cruise duration 8.5 days, median duration 7.0 days). A financial breakdown of typical cruiser (worldwide, across all cruise lines) RevenueExpenses Ticket$1,311 Onboard Spending$417 -Casino & Bar$222 -Shore excursions (cruise line portion)$81 -Spa $40 -All other onboard spending$61 Total spending$1,728 Other operating costs $251 14.5%Agent commission $225 13.0%Ship fuel costs $221 12.8%Corporate Operating Costs $200 11.6%Payroll $190 11.0%Depreciation/Amortization $166 9.6%Victualing (food) $104 6.0%Onboard and other $76 4.4%Other and transportation $57 3.3%Interest Expense $54 3.1%Total Expenses $1,543 Profit before taxes $185 10.7% Edited December 13, 2013 by SeaUs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YubaSutter Posted December 13, 2013 #10 Share Posted December 13, 2013 We could get rid of the cruise director, production shows, pools and hot tubs, and kids club for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhcruiser Posted December 13, 2013 #11 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Why get rid of the pools? We can't wait to swim as soon as we embark. We could get rid of the cruise director, production shows, pools and hot tubs, and kids club for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arush5268d Posted December 13, 2013 #12 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Financial Breakdown of Typical Cruiser Disney Cruise Lines’ Disney Wonder in Port Canaveral (Photo credit: Wikipedia) Ever wonder where the money goes? Here is a break down of the estimated 2013 average cruise revenue and expense per passenger for all cruise lines world wide. The average per passenger per day is projected to be $200.85, with $152.39 ticket price and $48.47 on board spending (average cruise duration 8.5 days, median duration 7.0 days). A financial breakdown of typical cruiser (worldwide, across all cruise lines) RevenueExpenses Ticket$1,311 Onboard Spending$417 -Casino & Bar$222 -Shore excursions (cruise line portion)$81 -Spa $40 -All other onboard spending$61 Total spending$1,728 Other operating costs $251 14.5%Agent commission $225 13.0%Ship fuel costs $221 12.8%Corporate Operating Costs $200 11.6%Payroll $190 11.0%Depreciation/Amortization $166 9.6%Victualing (food) $104 6.0%Onboard and other $76 4.4%Other and transportation $57 3.3%Interest Expense $54 3.1%Total Expenses $1,543 Profit before taxes $185 10.7% Food costs are way way way way lower on CCL. Food costs per person on board for a 7 day are around $53/person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted December 13, 2013 Author #13 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Yeah, why eliminate the pools? I may live where it's warm but I also realize that a week long caribbean cruise is a lot of folks only opportunity once a year to enjoy a pool. I think wanting to eliminate that for a fare reduction you are going to find yourself on your own with. I don't even see how that would be practical? The pools are built into the structure of the ship. What do you do, board it up and play dizzy bat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcwingwalker Posted December 13, 2013 #14 Share Posted December 13, 2013 OK Carnival could eliminate all the exercise equipment and we could all take turns rowing.................enough has already been eliminated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfadj Posted December 13, 2013 #15 Share Posted December 13, 2013 George lopez adds nothing. Guys burger are fine but the brand doesnt do much to get me back on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittsburghGirlee Posted December 13, 2013 #16 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The BEARDS:D;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted December 13, 2013 #17 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) WOW 25% :eek: That's a big price cut. Here are some the big things our cruise fare pays for. (cruise fare is 100%) Fuel 20% Payroll 15% Food 8% All the other stuff like Commissions, Sales and Marketing, Interest, Ship Maintenance etc. take up the rest. So if we chop 50% off each of the Fuel, Payroll and Food costs we could get close to a 25% reduction in the cruise fare. Hmmm, But how? Fuel. Cut that cost by just not going anywhere. Pull out of Port, go out 20 or 30 miles and drift for 7 days. Hey, who needs another trip to Nassau or Freeport anyways. Payroll and Food. Cut the wait and kitchen staff entirely. We won't need them because dining will be prepacked baloney sandwiches. Yummy! Can't wait.;) I wonder which wine pairs best with baloney? Edited December 13, 2013 by DirtyDawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satbeachbill Posted December 13, 2013 #18 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Tablecloths? Edited December 13, 2013 by satbeachbill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CruisinCrow Posted December 13, 2013 #19 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I really don't want them to eliminate anything else. If they do, they will just start charging for it somewhere else (like the ice cream and cappuccinos). I'd prefer to just pay for everything in the price of my fare and not get nickled and dimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard1s Posted December 13, 2013 #20 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Pull out of Port, go out 20 or 30 miles and drift for 7 days. Didn't they already try that earlier this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixie24 Posted December 13, 2013 #21 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Robes and chocolates on the pillows. Although cutting the chocolates would only save me about 0.10 per cruise probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruizinisthebest Posted December 13, 2013 #22 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I'm fine with the rates as they are. Carnival gives a nice cruise experience for a reasonable price in most cases. And if you book far enough in advance, you can save 25% or more on your own from your original booking simply watching for price reductions. Their fares fluctuate so often, they don't need to drop the starting points on anything IMO. If I go on a land based cruise, I'm typically going to spend more for almost round the clock food, gym access, pools, entertainment (whether I like it or not), transportation to island hop, and accommodations. On my last trip, I missd the midnight buffet, but totally see why they got rid of it. I can't image all the food that was wasted. Nothing needs to be eliminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arush5268d Posted December 13, 2013 #23 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Didn't they already try that earlier this year? The current was too strong and they still had burn a good amount of fuel to maintain steerage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vols_159 Posted December 13, 2013 #24 Share Posted December 13, 2013 table cloths... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh1035 Posted December 13, 2013 #25 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Charge for room service and only allow one entree, one trip to the buffet, etc. Sick of seeing all the wasted food and the size of the people shoveling it down at the buffet. If complainers want better shows charge them for a ticket. Better meal try the steakhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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