swedish weave Posted January 7, 2014 #1 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Construction has started on a new cruise terminal at Puerto Penasco Mexico.(Rocky Point) Looks interesting and a previous article stated that Carnivaland Holland America were involved in the negotiations to make this happen Proposed cruise routes show nine ports including Mazatlan and Cabo !! http://www.kvoa.com/news/they-re-building-a-port-for-cruise-ships-in-rocky-point/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootsiescurly Posted January 7, 2014 #2 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Don't see it happening. Too far up the Sea of Cortez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplmac Posted January 7, 2014 #3 Share Posted January 7, 2014 And after all the brave talk about Maimon on the N.Coast of the Dominican Republic nothing ever happened! And that was two years ago now, I reckon. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tapi Posted January 7, 2014 #4 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) It looks like Puerto Penasco is hoping that it's closeness to the US will lure passengers into driving down to go on cruises originating from there. Seems like an interesting (albeit far fetched) proposition. I don't think it will be the success that they are banking on, at a time when violent crimes along the US/Mexico border are still making headlines. Edited January 7, 2014 by Tapi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedish weave Posted January 7, 2014 Author #5 Share Posted January 7, 2014 It looks like Puerto Penasco is hoping that it's closeness to the US will lure passengers into driving down to go on cruises originating from there. Seems like an interesting (albeit far fetched) proposition. I don't think it will be the success that they are banking on, at a time when violent crimes along the US/Mexico border are still making headlines. I have a little different view of the future of this port. The article shows nine ports that are within the same range of the West coast cruises that travel to Mazatlan. That means fuel economy for the cruise lines. They would also escape the environmental burdens that are placed on them by California restrictions. I have made the Sea of Cortez cruise on HAL twice and would do this one in a heartbeat. Rocky Point is a small town and shouldn't be very attractive to the drug thugs that are causing problems in some parts of Mexico. At any rate, the two furthest ports are Mazatlan and Cabo, and the cruise ships have recently started calling at Mazatlan after a two year hiatus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwalk03 Posted January 7, 2014 #6 Share Posted January 7, 2014 This does seem like a really odd departure point to me. I mean Phoenix & Tuscon and about 4 hours away, and San Diego is like 6 hours away. Are you really going to get enough people to drive from those places (or further) to go board a cruise ship here? What is the benefit to home porting here over Long Beach or even San Diego? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branman Posted January 7, 2014 #7 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) And after all the brave talk about Maimon on the N.Coast of the Dominican Republicnothing ever happened! And that was two years ago now, I reckon. . It's happening. It's called the Amber Cove cruise terminal. Here's the website for the developer: http://northamerica.atkinsglobal.com/projects/amber-cove-cruise-terminal Here's an article about it: http://www.caribjournal.com/2013/10/17/puerto-plata-tourism-is-re-emerging/ Edited January 7, 2014 by Branman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanmarcosman Posted January 7, 2014 #8 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Rocky Point is a small town and shouldn't be very attractive to the drug thugs that are causing problems in some parts of Mexico. Are you willing to drive to Rocky Point? I'm not. If Rocky Point adds an airport for providing non-stop air service from San Diego, then we can talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootsiescurly Posted January 7, 2014 #9 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I have a little different view of the future of this port. The article shows nine ports that are within the same range of the West coast cruises that travel to Mazatlan. That means fuel economy for the cruise lines. They would also escape the environmental burdens that are placed on them by California restrictions. I have made the Sea of Cortez cruise on HAL twice and would do this one in a heartbeat. Rocky Point is a small town and shouldn't be very attractive to the drug thugs that are causing problems in some parts of Mexico. At any rate, the two furthest ports are Mazatlan and Cabo, and the cruise ships have recently started calling at Mazatlan after a two year hiatus. The biggest roadblock may be they do not want extensive cruise traffic destroying the natural beauty and wildlife of the Sea of Cortez. This is precisely why you see very few cruises with La Paz and Loreto as a destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplmac Posted January 7, 2014 #10 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) It's happening. It's called the Amber Cove cruise terminal. Here's the website for the developer: http://northamerica.atkinsglobal.com/projects/amber-cove-cruise-terminal Here's an article about it: http://www.caribjournal.com/2013/10/17/puerto-plata-tourism-is-re-emerging/ Nice to know! Encouraging.This is the first positive feedback that anyone has provided since I first learned about the project. Why has it been kept secret, and where did you find out all this stuff? You work for Dept. of Defense don't you? :D . Edited January 7, 2014 by Aplmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhinomike Posted January 7, 2014 #11 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I have a little different view of the future of this port. The article shows nine ports that are within the same range of the West coast cruises that travel to Mazatlan. That means fuel economy for the cruise lines. They would also escape the environmental burdens that are placed on them by California restrictions. I have made the Sea of Cortez cruise on HAL twice and would do this one in a heartbeat. Rocky Point is a small town and shouldn't be very attractive to the drug thugs that are causing problems in some parts of Mexico. At any rate, the two furthest ports are Mazatlan and Cabo, and the cruise ships have recently started calling at Mazatlan after a two year hiatus. Sorry. But there is drug violence in Puerto Penasco too. We go there every year for a week. But rethinking it now. http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/4-dead-in-shootout-in-Rocky-Point-resort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 7, 2014 #12 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Sorry. But there is drug violence in Puerto Penasco too. We go there every year for a week. But rethinking it now. http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/4-dead-in-shootout-in-Rocky-Point-resort What a shame. It could be such a natural fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie S. Posted January 7, 2014 #13 Share Posted January 7, 2014 They just had a major shootout between the government forces and the drug thugs in Puerto Peñasco. There have been other incidents there, also, both in town and on the road there. I personally wouldn't drive there and I live part-time in San Carlos. San Carlos is a much safer (and more beautiful) place and I drive there regularly along a designated safe highway for tourists. The Mexican government is in the process of expanding the existing port of Guaymas, which already takes cruiseships and is about 5 miles from San Carlos. I really don't see the need for a cruiseport in Rocky Point, but the locals want the dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branman Posted January 7, 2014 #14 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Nice to know! Encouraging.This is the first positive feedback that anyone has provided since I first learned about the project. Why has it been kept secret, and where did you find out all this stuff? You work for Dept. of Defense don't you? :D . I dunno. I guess Carnival doesn't really make a big deal about new ports under construction. After all, it won't really be branded "Carnival." I'm guessing that we will see a bigger announcement (or quiet announcement) sometime this year when they reveal 2015 itineraries. This will probably make Eastern Caribbean itineraries much more diverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noworriesinnm Posted January 10, 2014 #15 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I vacationed at Mayan Palace in Puerto Penasco last fall and although I loved it, no way will I go back! Mid December there was a shoutout on the remote beach we stayed at with a drug cartel. 5 people killed! Crazy! Feel bad for innocent residents, but I don't feel safe driving to this place anymore and I won't risk my family's safety. Google it for the facts :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mapsmith Posted January 11, 2014 #16 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Would be nice for an Arizona Homeport! Rocky Point is no worse than Cozumel or Ensenada. Good locale for Tucson and Phoenix Cruisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanhawk Posted January 11, 2014 #17 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I'd have to agree with Laurie S. on this-San Carlos/Guaymas would be a much better choice, than Rocky Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBanana1240 Posted January 11, 2014 #18 Share Posted January 11, 2014 It would be great since it's close to Tiguana, Tuscon and San Diego. The only problem that I think they would come across would be not having a large airport. Obviously, if this happens, then I know they will make an airport. I can see HAL departing from here, maybe even RCI. They really like the international routes, and I think that's a reason why they both make good money. That attract people from all over, along with Americans who want to see something new. Princess and Celebrity may make a stop here, along with the luxury cruise ships. I really make work. As for Carnival, I can see them moving the Inspiration or Imagination from along Beach to here. I mean, they are both running the same route, and unless they change the route of one, then I can see them doing 4 and 5 night cruises from here. I hope they follow through with it and that we can see a new departure port on some cruise ships! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tapi Posted January 11, 2014 #19 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Puerto Penasco may be able to attract some land tourists from neighboring Arizona, but without a proper airport, I seriously doubt that it can support a cruise ship year round. The Puerto Penasco airport has very limited air service, mostly general aviation traffic and a handful of commercial flights. A cruise ship from there can only draw so many passengers willing to drive the 4 hours from Phoenix or Tucson. I seriously doubt that anybody needing to fly, would choose to cruise from Puerto Penasco if they need to add a 4 hour drive on top of the flights. Could it work someday? Maybe. But not with the current infrastructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjknox Posted January 11, 2014 #20 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Could it work someday? Maybe. But not with the current infrastructure. An air infrastructure improvement may be in the works as part of the official deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhinomike Posted January 11, 2014 #21 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Would be nice for an Arizona Homeport! Rocky Point is no worse than Cozumel or Ensenada. Good locale for Tucson and Phoenix Cruisers. You can throw Ensanada or Tijuana in there.... But not Cozumel. Do some research. Almost zero crime in Cozumel. Very safe there. But TJ, Ensanada, Puerto Penasco and some of the other border cities can be dangerous. Even with some of the recent crime in Puerto Penasco I think it is still safer than some of the other border cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie S. Posted January 11, 2014 #22 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Cozumel has a good deal of crime, including the drug trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhinomike Posted January 12, 2014 #23 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Cozumel has a good deal of crime, including the drug trade. Look up the stats. Not much crime or drug trade in Cozumel compared to other cities its size/population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie S. Posted January 12, 2014 #24 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Lies, damn lies, and statistics. Cozumel may be safer, but it is not a crime free paradise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt Sue Posted December 3, 2014 #25 Share Posted December 3, 2014 hi we were just down in Puerto Penasco for 5 days and locals said they are starting up construction on the pier again in January; something about there was some delay due to rocks being too soft for the footings. We drive down to Rocky Point from Phoenix several times a year to stay in the beautiful Sandy Beach area without a single incident ever. There is plenty of security at the resorts and police in town and patrolling on the road from the border - we never feel unsafe but we don't do anything unsafe. I heard something about an airport too but idk details. We look forward to a port there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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