Porky55 Posted January 12, 2014 #26 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Definitely no smoking inside the Voyager of the Seas this in the last two weeks Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BekkaW Posted January 12, 2014 #27 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Thats how I read it to, but I wonder why? If they weren't wanting to smoke in spite of the policy, why would they care? I'm a nonsmoker and have no allergy and therefore don't care and wouldn't waste a moment of my vacation bothering with it. Jmho I think OP's point was that their booklet quoted both the old policy with smoking allowed AND the new policy with smoking not allowed. Clearly that would be confusing for the average guest. OP was going to ask for an ashtray to see which policy was actually in place. I would probably just ask! But I do see OP's point and it should be brought to RCI's attention so it can be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattis_61 Posted January 12, 2014 #28 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Just got off the Brilliance on Jan. 9th. We booked a balcony because I smoke. No smoking on balconies. Smoking in casino, and on pool deck in one area and on deck 5 on one side (think it is port side but not sure). No smoking allowed anywhere else on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanvleckeren Posted January 12, 2014 #29 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'm taking a 'cultural immersion' cruise out of Brazil in March. I wonder if they'll have a more liberal smoking policy. I hope not. I'm a non-smoker and don't like cigarette smoke. In past cruises in recent years, smoking was allowed in the casino (which helped keep me out) and on one side of the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sallighted Posted January 12, 2014 #30 Share Posted January 12, 2014 We will be on Mariner out of Singapore in a few weeks and I was wondering how we would go with this as well... my DH is a really bad asthmatic and cigarette smoke is one of the big triggers. Just wondering if the rules for the Asian market will be the same or more lax?? If anyone has any feedback that would be great... PS we will be staying out of the casino so this area shouldn't be a problem :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SammiC72 Posted January 12, 2014 #31 Share Posted January 12, 2014 There was never any inside smoking on the VOS or other RCCL ships in the Australian season. This is health dept legislation from most of the ports RCCL sail out of here and I guess that RCCL thought it was best to just go with the flow. You could however smoke on suite balconies, Deck 5 and near pool deck on port side as well as just outside the nightclub on a balcony area on Rhapsody (not sure about Radiance or VOS). Now no smoking on any balconies at all.... not sure about outside areas and if they have been reduced to smaller spacings. I actually stopped smoking in NOV because I had this RCCL cruise coming up and didnt want to be on deck in my pjs at 6am having a ciggie :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtd724 Posted January 12, 2014 #32 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Anybody got a light? Lol. Sorry but you would not get kicked off a cruise for violating the smoking policy once. Maybe twice. Oh and also no passenger has the power to get you thrown off so ignore that crazy post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted January 12, 2014 #33 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Effective January 1, 2014 For the comfort and enjoyment of our guests, our ships are designated as non-smoking; however, we recognize thatsome of our guests do smoke. Therefore, to provide anonboard environment that also satisfies smokers, we havedesignated certain areas of the ship as smoking areas.Cigarette, cigar, e-cigarette and pipe smoking is permittedin designated outdoor areas of the starboard side ofall ships. To assist in locating areas where smoking ispermitted, guests will find visible signage posted withinall smoking areas and ashtrays that are provided for use.Outdoor areas near restricted areas, food venues, and kidsplay areas and pools will not allow smoking. Casino Royale allows smoking and has a designated area fornon-smoking guests. There will be visible signage indicatingthe non-smoking area in the casino. There are select cruisesdeparting from China that will not have a non-smoking areain the casino. Onboard all interior public spaces are smoke free*. Smokingis not permitted in any dining venue, theater, bar, lounge, hallway, elevator, and jogging track. Smoking is not permitted inside any stateroom and any stateroom balcony. This applies to all stateroom categories onboard. If a guest is in violation of this stateroom policy, a cleaning fee of $250 USD will be applied to their SeaPass® account and may be subject to further action pursuant to the ‘Consequences Section’ of the Guest Conduct Policy. Cigarettes, cigars and pipe tobacco must be properly disposed of and never thrown overboard. Cigar and pipe tobacco is limited to designated outdoor areas and Cigar Bars**. You must be at least 18 years of age to purchase, possess or use tobacco onboard. Electronic cigarettes or e-cigarettes are only permitted within the designated smoking areas. Royal Caribbean International kindly asks all guests to please observe the smoking policy. These requests are made to provide a comfortable cruise for everyone. Guest may also inquire at Guest Services for the location of the designated smoking areas onboard. Edited January 12, 2014 by orville99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted January 12, 2014 #34 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Europe has a heavy smoking population. I wonder if it will be in effect over there. Asia does, too, and they've already said it will not be in effect on Asian cruises. As I understand it, they let them smoke IN the cabins on Asian cruises. According to the statement made by Adam on his blog in Sept (link below) smoking in cabins and on balconies is eliminated fleet wide. Smoking is allowed in designated outside areas, casino, connoisseur club on Freedom and Voyager class ships and one additional venue on ships sailing from Chinese home ports http://www.royalcaribbean.com/connect/blog/2013/09/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewpapa Posted January 12, 2014 #35 Share Posted January 12, 2014 They are sending out the normal cruise contract, that no one reads, and include a section that says "Effective Jan 1, 2014" which might catch ones attention, and did in the OP's case, to point out that the smoking policy has changed. Makes sense to me. Just got my documents for Feb, and they are the same. They just added the new rule to the bottom. I don't see the confusion. No balcony smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted January 12, 2014 #36 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'm taking a 'cultural immersion' cruise out of Brazil in March. I wonder if they'll have a more liberal smoking policy. I hope not. I'm a non-smoker and don't like cigarette smoke. In past cruises in recent years, smoking was allowed in the casino (which helped keep me out) and on one side of the deck. We will be on Mariner out of Singapore in a few weeks and I was wondering how we would go with this as well... my DH is a really bad asthmatic and cigarette smoke is one of the big triggers. Just wondering if the rules for the Asian market will be the same or more lax?? If anyone has any feedback that would be great... PS we will be staying out of the casino so this area shouldn't be a problem :p Adam stated in his blog in Sept.( link below) that smoking was being eliminated fleet wide on all balconies. The only areas for smoking would be designated areas outside, the casino, the connesseur club on Freedom and Voyager class ships and one additional selected venue on ships sailing out of China. http://www.royalcaribbean.com/connect/blog/2013/09/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtd724 Posted January 12, 2014 #37 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) You will see alot of people violating it and smoking on their balconies in Europe and Asia. GUARANTEED. Edited January 12, 2014 by Jtd724 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapleleafforever Posted January 12, 2014 #38 Share Posted January 12, 2014 To anyone who's been on Independence since the changes, is the smoking side of deck 4 and pool deck the starboard side? We would like to book a balcony and want to avoid the smoking side altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tserface Posted January 12, 2014 #39 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Congratulations!!! That's a great accomplishment. Whatever it takes. Tom I actually stopped smoking in NOV because I had this RCCL cruise coming up and didnt want to be on deck in my pjs at 6am having a ciggie :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock43031 Posted January 12, 2014 Author #40 Share Posted January 12, 2014 can't have a smoking post without all the sky is falling people with severe allergies. (mostly a physiological problem) I tried to have thread to determine reality of how the smoking policy was actually being enforced but the anti's jumped in. as far as I can tell there is no 'rule' about taking a crap on my balcony and letting it age in the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtd724 Posted January 12, 2014 #41 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) My theory: daytime hours and into the night till about 1 or 2am they are followed. I have a feeling if a smoker is still awake past 1 or 2am they'll just puff on the balcony if the neighbors are sleeping or inside their room. I have never smelled someone smoking a cig while on my balcony before. Weak nose or just lucky. Edited January 12, 2014 by Jtd724 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigggypup Posted January 12, 2014 #42 Share Posted January 12, 2014 If you happened to be next to me on the balcony smoking and I paid for the balcony under the impression that their new rule went into effect on January 1st,2014 you would be hearing it from me. I have a severe allergy to tobacco and can go into a wheezing attack. I booked the balcony because they were deemed non-smoking. I would be sure you would be thrown off the ship for violating the rule. I hope you know the rules and follow them. I know to stay away from smoking areas. How dare you do this because there could be someone with a severe allergy to tobacco who can get very sick from the smoke. Let's just see how far you want to take this. I emailed Mr.Goldstein telling him how happy I am about the new non smoking policy. If I find out that people are smoking in areas that are deemed non-smoking I will be speaking with the Hotel Director and take it up to the captain if need be. Not to be rude but as someone with an allergy to tobacco who in good faith booked a balcony knowing it was non smoking only to find someone like you trying to break the law. If I found out that the room attendant provided you with an ashtray to use on your balcony and its against the policies I would be sure your room attendant also gets into trouble for breaking the law. I'm sorry to come off as rude but as a non-smoker smokers need to know that there is a true allergy to smoke. When I inhale tobacco I go into a wheezing fit, my eyes burn and start to water and my throat gets dry. I know what areas to avoid on the ship and I do my best to avoid them. This is like a peanut allergy if you were told by the flight crew not to eat nuts then you would follow that order and not question it for fear the passenger can die from inhaling peanuts. How would you feel if you told me please don't eat peanuts out on my deck because I have a severe allergy to nuts and I continued to eat them and you almost died? I would stop eating my peanuts and apologize because I know you could almost die. The same goes for smoking I would hope you would be kind and follow the rules. What law is being broken? It is just a company policy that is being discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidneyOfEaston Posted January 12, 2014 #43 Share Posted January 12, 2014 How would you feel if you told me please don't eat peanuts out on my deck because I have a severe allergy to nuts and I continued to eat them and you almost died? I would stop eating my peanuts and apologize because I know you could almost die. The same goes for smoking I would hope you would be kind and follow the rules. If you're peanut allergy is that severe, then you should not board a cruise ship. What if you get into an elevator and someone is eating a bag of peanuts? Or if you board a tender and someone is munching on a bag of nuts. Sorry, it's nobody responsibility to cater to you're allergy issues other than you. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roce48 Posted January 12, 2014 #44 Share Posted January 12, 2014 If you happened to be next to me on the balcony smoking and I paid for the balcony under the impression that their new rule went into effect on January 1st,2014 you would be hearing it from me. I have a severe allergy to tobacco and can go into a wheezing attack. I booked the balcony because they were deemed non-smoking. I would be sure you would be thrown off the ship for violating the rule. I hope you know the rules and follow them. I know to stay away from smoking areas. How dare you do this because there could be someone with a severe allergy to tobacco who can get very sick from the smoke. Let's just see how far you want to take this. I emailed Mr.Goldstein telling him how happy I am about the new non smoking policy. If I find out that people are smoking in areas that are deemed non-smoking I will be speaking with the Hotel Director and take it up to the captain if need be. Not to be rude but as someone with an allergy to tobacco who in good faith booked a balcony knowing it was non smoking only to find someone like you trying to break the law. If I found out that the room attendant provided you with an ashtray to use on your balcony and its against the policies I would be sure your room attendant also gets into trouble for breaking the law. I'm sorry to come off as rude but as a non-smoker smokers need to know that there is a true allergy to smoke. When I inhale tobacco I go into a wheezing fit, my eyes burn and start to water and my throat gets dry. I know what areas to avoid on the ship and I do my best to avoid them. This is like a peanut allergy if you were told by the flight crew not to eat nuts then you would follow that order and not question it for fear the passenger can die from inhaling peanuts. How would you feel if you told me please don't eat peanuts out on my deck because I have a severe allergy to nuts and I continued to eat them and you almost died? I would stop eating my peanuts and apologize because I know you could almost die. The same goes for smoking I would hope you would be kind and follow the rules. I do not believe that you go into a severe reaction with a simple whiff of smoke. LMAO I also question your power to have people thrown off a ship! Please stop threatening people. Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapleleafforever Posted January 12, 2014 #45 Share Posted January 12, 2014 If you happened to be next to me on the balcony smoking and I paid for the balcony under the impression that their new rule went into effect on January 1st,2014 you would be hearing it from me. I have a severe allergy to tobacco and can go into a wheezing attack. I booked the balcony because they were deemed non-smoking. I would be sure you would be thrown off the ship for violating the rule. I hope you know the rules and follow them. I know to stay away from smoking areas. How dare you do this because there could be someone with a severe allergy to tobacco who can get very sick from the smoke. Let's just see how far you want to take this. I emailed Mr.Goldstein telling him how happy I am about the new non smoking policy. If I find out that people are smoking in areas that are deemed non-smoking I will be speaking with the Hotel Director and take it up to the captain if need be. Not to be rude but as someone with an allergy to tobacco who in good faith booked a balcony knowing it was non smoking only to find someone like you trying to break the law. If I found out that the room attendant provided you with an ashtray to use on your balcony and its against the policies I would be sure your room attendant also gets into trouble for breaking the law. I'm sorry to come off as rude but as a non-smoker smokers need to know that there is a true allergy to smoke. When I inhale tobacco I go into a wheezing fit, my eyes burn and start to water and my throat gets dry. I know what areas to avoid on the ship and I do my best to avoid them. This is like a peanut allergy if you were told by the flight crew not to eat nuts then you would follow that order and not question it for fear the passenger can die from inhaling peanuts. How would you feel if you told me please don't eat peanuts out on my deck because I have a severe allergy to nuts and I continued to eat them and you almost died? I would stop eating my peanuts and apologize because I know you could almost die. The same goes for smoking I would hope you would be kind and follow the rules. There will always be people smoking on balconies and if they're not beside you then you'll never be able to tell where they are and they'll never be found. Maybe you're better off booking an outside or inside cabin if your allergy is that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted January 12, 2014 #46 Share Posted January 12, 2014 What difference does it make what happened on any one particular cruise? Seriously. The new rules are clear. There will always be rule breakers. Just deal with them as it occurs. Nothing more needs to be said or speculated about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelplus Posted January 12, 2014 #47 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) i do not believe that you go into a severe reaction with a simple whiff of smoke. Lmao i also question your power to have people thrown off a ship! Please stop threatening people. Thank you I am not threatening people. What I meant to state is if a person is smoking in a non-smoking area I would go to a crew member who would enforce the policy as stated in the policy below Royal Caribbean will assess a $250 cleaning fee to any guest caught smoking in their stateroom and on their private balcony. I would make it clear to the crew member that I have an allergy to smoke and I was in a non-smoking area. I sincerely apologize if I have offended anyone. Edited January 12, 2014 by travelplus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelplus Posted January 12, 2014 #48 Share Posted January 12, 2014 What law is being broken? It is just a company policy that is being discussed. But a policy that is broken can have ramifications. Let's say the company you work for has a policy that all employees can only travel in Economy Class and you went ahead and booked First Class you would be responsible for the difference in cost. Royal has a policy that kids must be potty trained to use the pool. If you don't follow the policy and your caught then your in for the consequences. My point is a policy can be like a law. If you abide by the policies then everyone will have a great time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelplus Posted January 12, 2014 #49 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) lol? Sorry mate, but folks distress caused by cigarette smoke is not an "over reaction," and laughing at the distress is disturbing to say the least! Exactly yoglmax. You don't know how I feel when I come into contact with cigarette smoke or a cigar. Unless your the one with the allergy then please don't say its an overreaction. I do my best to remove myself but if someone is in a non-smoking area and starts to smoke then it should be the responsibility of the smoker to move to the designated area not mine. If I am in a smoking area by mistake I do my best to remove myself as quickly as possible to the non smoking area. This is the reason I would go to a crew member so as not to get into a fight with the smoker so the crew member can enforce the policy. Edited January 12, 2014 by travelplus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Familygoboston Posted January 12, 2014 #50 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Just got off the Brilliance on Jan. 9th. We booked a balcony because I smoke. No smoking on balconies. Smoking in casino, and on pool deck in one area and on deck 5 on one side (think it is port side but not sure). No smoking allowed anywhere else on the ship. I'm wondering how you knew smoking was not allowed on the balcony- are there signs in the cabin, on the balcony? Is it mentioned in the Compass? Or at muster? Just wondering how the new policy is being communicated on board. If someone wasn't on CC, and always had smoked, how would they know its changed? Most people don't read the cruise contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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