With respect to RC on noro issues; open windows,doors in ports;bleach!

[poetzmuse]

With the noro-virus hitting many ships, a good idea seems to be when pulling into ports,open all windows, balcony doors to air out ship and ensure bleach products used everywhere. Not sure what disinectants are used in rooms and public areas...perhaps check with house keeping and upgrade to bleach-based products. Couldnt hurt to make this mandatory on all ships.

And thank you Royal for the pleasant cruises we have had!

[lady_cruiser]

With the noro-virus hitting many ships, a good idea seems to be when pulling into ports,open all windows, balcony doors to air out ship and ensure bleach products used everywhere. Not sure what disinectants are used in rooms and public areas...perhaps check with house keeping and upgrade to bleach-based products. Couldnt hurt to make this mandatory on all ships.

And thank you Royal for the pleasant cruises we have had!

 

It sounds good but not everyone gets off the ship when it port.

[Barb Nahoumi]

If your cabin is an inside or oceanview, there no windows to open.

[mbjboyle]

Doesn't quite work that way....

 

http://www.cdc.gov/features/norovirus/

[poetzmuse]

Morning! Thanks for the information mbjboyle! Interesting. Yes, the noro-viruses are from many sources. My suggestion while simple, is a start. These articles name cleaners,etc. Seems wise for Royal and other cruise companies to make sure they are using effective cleansing methods, air out ship whereever possible.

 

Not all rooms have windows, balconys, of course. And not everyone gets off ship in ports but wouldnt you want the cleaning that is done while in port to be the most effective? Air out the ship and if someone gets a bit cold (arent most ports in warmer weather?!) go elsewhere till cleaning is complete. I dare say that when rooms are cleaned, we are in other parts of ship...! The attendants could open up rooms where possible, clean, then close.

 

Rather simple and why not? They should not keep doing things the way it is and keep getting ships contiminated. Look in to every facet, make change, get better! We can not get at all of virus..but get it started!

 

Take care all and happy cruising!

http://www.epa.gov/oppad001/list_g_norovirus.pdf

 

http://epi.publichealth.nc.gov/cd/norovirus/home.html

[Aquahound]

Windows don't open. It's a watertight thing.

 

I'm not sure airing out the ship in a humid climate is the wise thing to do. Suscepting the ship to mold growth seems to be counter-productive when trying to prevent a virus.

[mbjboyle]

Humans are the most effective factor determining contamination. Cleaning a ship will result in its intended effect = a clean ship. The moment an infected passenger boards, the area is contaminated. There are many other contaminates present that can infect passengers (food-borne, airborne, animal, insect, bacteria, etc.) and each of these incubates at different temperatures, are present in different environments, and will cause infection at different rates, times, transmission factors, symptoms, etc. Any number of chemicals and cleaners will protect humans from infection, but many are toxic and will harm humans if not used correctly. For example, hydrogen peroxide is sold over-the-counter at a 3% dilution for first aid, at an 8% dilution is used to bleach hair, and is deadly at a mere 35% dilution. On a side note - if one googles the number of people who poison their self each year from mixing household chemicals.... it's surprising.

 

Let's just say that I have a lot of experience regarding this subject and I know that the two most significant factors protecting one from infection is; 1. hygiene, and 2. avoiding those who are infected or people/objects carrying contaminates. The first is (by far) easier....... #2 is significantly trickier......

 

I like your approach... typically, those who are concerned take precaution(s) to avoid the spread of contaminates and illnesses :)

Edited January 28, 2014 by mbjboyle

[spookwife]

 

Rather simple and why not? They should not keep doing things the way it is and keep getting ships contiminated. Look in to every facet, make change, get better! We can not get at all of virus..but get it started!

 

not simple at all. as already been stated no windows open at all. furthermore it is a major security issue to leave cabin doors open and unoccupied and they really don't have time to putz around each room to let it 'air out' for half an hour or more. and that won;t do anything about non airborne contaminants anyway.

 

the PASSENGERS are the only sure fire defense against illness. WE are the ones that bring the germs and contaminants on board and no amount of super cleaning will stave off repeated contamination every time there is turnaround.

 

you do realize that pound for pound more people get sick ON LAND from noro and noro based illness than on ships, right?

[steamboats]

Noro is not airborne so I can´t see how opening balcony doors should help (despite the problem that other windows do not open).

 

And yes, they do clean with bleach (clorine)!

 

steamboats