MSC Cruises USA Posted June 5, 2014 #1 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Due to a public demonstration in Venice , both on June 7th (MSC Preziosa) and June 8th (MSC Fantasia), please be informed that inconveniences in accessing the port are forecasted. For this reason, it is recommended that guests arrive in port no later than 11.30 am. Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted June 5, 2014 #2 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I saw that, I would be curious who makes up the protesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM42 Posted June 5, 2014 #3 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I saw that, I would be curious who makes up the protesters. People who do not want the big ships in Venice. They will meet at 13:00 at Piazzale Roma. Then, they will move to the cruise terminal (Stazione Marittima). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katgoesonholiday Posted June 5, 2014 #4 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I thought they had got what they wanted and the big ships were being phased out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM42 Posted June 5, 2014 #5 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I thought they had got what they wanted and the big ships were being phased out? No, on 17 March 2014, the Veneto regional court accepted a request to suspend restrictions on large cruise ships passing through the Venetian lagoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmoMondo Posted June 6, 2014 #6 Share Posted June 6, 2014 No, on 17 March 2014, the Veneto regional court accepted a request to suspend restrictions on large cruise ships passing through the Venetian lagoon. Think some want to cruise ships at all regardless of their size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted June 6, 2014 #7 Share Posted June 6, 2014 When will this lot admit that it is not cruise ships that is the problem? the problem is the number of small boats that drive around at any speed like idiots. The vaparetto`s do not help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM42 Posted June 6, 2014 #8 Share Posted June 6, 2014 When will this lot admit that it is not cruise ships that is the problem? the problem is the number of small boats that drive around at any speed like idiots. The vaparetto`s do not help either. They say that cruise ships are damaging the lagoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted June 6, 2014 #9 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Cruise ships are taken into and out of Venice usually by Two Tugboats one at the Bow and one at the Aft in order to keep them in the channel, the speed is dictated by the lead Tugboat and not the ship. The ship and Tugs are constantly passed at higher speed by other craft including car ferries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotownVoice Posted June 6, 2014 #10 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Pretty easy to imagine that "speed" wouldn't be the only determining factor in the risk for causing damage. Weight (eg; depth) would matter, and to a lesser tourist impact on the island itself. Also a cruise liner tied at port banging against bumpers and pier surfaces is going to do a hella more damage than a speed boat tied to a pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becci Posted June 6, 2014 #11 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Thank you for the heads up. We are in Chicago now on our way to Toronto then Venice for our cruise leaving Sunday the 6th. We will make sure to get there very early! Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted June 6, 2014 #12 Share Posted June 6, 2014 MV ...If you have been to Venice you will know that the port is on the other side of the Grand canal and away from the main Tourist areas, any banging you mention is not going to damage Venice itself. Maybe the protesters should direct their anger at the recent uncovering of corruption regarding the building of the Lagoon sea barriers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotownVoice Posted June 6, 2014 #13 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Yes, I've stayed in Venice several times. You're saying there is no way in heaven or hell cruise ships can do more damage than vaporettos and I'm just saying that nonsense. But clearly you have a point of view that you've become attached to, so, carry on. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted June 7, 2014 #14 Share Posted June 7, 2014 MV ... Like you we have been to Venice many times, while ships may well contribute something to erosion they are not causing it all as being claimed by these people! If you believe the small water taxi`s and other craft that tear around do not contribute then you need to re asses how you think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex71 Posted June 7, 2014 #15 Share Posted June 7, 2014 When we departed from Venice, we could see the ship stir up a lot of mud, so I can understand that this is not popular with the locals. I'm just grateful we were able to still experience the spectacular views when sailing out of the lagoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexkrn46 Posted June 7, 2014 #16 Share Posted June 7, 2014 we watched several shows on the effects of cruise ships and Venice. we stayed at the Hilton and had a great view of the water traffic. Cruise ships no wake and no noise, The vaprorettos and ferries churned a lot. we are glad we got to cruise before the controversy, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM42 Posted June 7, 2014 #17 Share Posted June 7, 2014 When we departed from Venice, we could see the ship stir up a lot of mud, so I can understand that this is not popular with the locals. I'm just grateful we were able to still experience the spectacular views when sailing out of the lagoon. They say that the major problem is the tides and the pollution caused by the cruise ships. They also ruin the ecosystem. All my information is in Italian but I've found this site in English: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/11/cruise-ship-monsters-venice-italy_n_2457462.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex71 Posted June 7, 2014 #18 Share Posted June 7, 2014 They say that the major problem is the tides and the pollution caused by the cruise ships. They also ruin the ecosystem. All my information is in Italian but I've found this site in English: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/11/cruise-ship-monsters-venice-italy_n_2457462.html From what I could see, the worst offenders were the thrusters. The water around us looked totally brown from all the mud they stirred up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotownVoice Posted June 7, 2014 #19 Share Posted June 7, 2014 MV ... Like you we have been to Venice many times, while ships may well contribute something to erosion they are not causing it all as being claimed by these people! If you believe the small water taxi`s and other craft that tear around do not contribute then you need to re asses how you think! Oh, that is so hilariously clever. I see what ya did there. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonesj Posted July 23, 2014 #20 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Actually here in Italy it's a big issue, also linked with the MOSE, the dam which was supposed, when finished, to solve the tide problems.. Many ships will move to Trieste. Honestly I don't know what to think... even more confused after all these celebrities joined the cause... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2701705/Celebrities-including-Michael-Douglas-Cate-Blanchett-call-ban-cruise-ships-Venice.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted July 23, 2014 #21 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It will only be a matter of time before the bars, cafes,restaurants and shop owners begin to complain about a reduction in takings! and only when the erosion continues will they realise that they did it to themselves with their ridiculous speeds in their tiny boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now