EZ4 Posted July 9, 2014 #51 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I'd expect other cruise lines to follow in the future as well with the balcony smoking policy change. Actually, Carnival is one of the last to arrive at the party. Carnival is no longer the leader. They are the follower in most cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ4 Posted July 9, 2014 #52 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Carnival policy requires you to gamble to smoke there. Do you think they will track your play while smoking? Maybe they will come up with a new $250 fine for SWP. Smoking without play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepeka Posted July 9, 2014 #53 Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) well, I just cancelled my next 2 cruise on Carnival, so have at them balconies, your welcome to them.Booked with RCCL, instead. I know they have a similar policy, but they also have a indoor smoking lounge "concierge ";) (besides the casino). Carnival policy requires you to gamble to smoke there. Not much of a drinker so sitting at the casino bar smoking ( which is only one-half of) would be a waste of time and seat. May some day cruise w/ them, if they decide to return to the NE, year round. Smooth sailings all. Huh? The only indoor space on RCI that I'm aware of which allows smoking is the casino. :confused: What "concierge"?? Edited July 9, 2014 by joepeka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fla Senior Posted July 9, 2014 #54 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I just cancelled our November cruise, which was outside of final payment and re-booked a similar cruise on Norwegian for 2 days longer and less money. There are 2 ports we like less, but that's the only difference. Bye-Bye Carnival!!!! Hope you booked it for this year. Word is that NCL will be doing same in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemsm Posted July 9, 2014 #55 Share Posted July 9, 2014 What other Cruise Lines allow smoking on the Balcony? Holland America and NCL are 2 that I know of. Not sure about others. Princess allows vaping but not smoking on balconies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemsm Posted July 9, 2014 #56 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hope you booked it for this year. Word is that NCL will be doing same in 2015. Funny...I heard word from Kevin Sheehan that there are no plans to change NCL smoking policy in the future in January this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudechuck Posted July 9, 2014 #57 Share Posted July 9, 2014 ... I know they have a similar policy, but they also have a indoor smoking lounge "concierge ";) (besides the casino) ... FYI: There is a jazz lounge on the Splendor, Conquest class and Triumph class ships that allows smoking. When we were on the Freedom and the Liberty, they were mostly empty. Occasionally, they did karaoke in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemsm Posted July 9, 2014 #58 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Wonder if Mr. Heald or the beards might post any statistics as to how many cancellations/non-full ships are being caused by this policy? I doubt it though...RCI hid their loss by saying people weren't spending as much on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceleven Posted July 9, 2014 #59 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Do you think they will track your play while smoking? Maybe they will come up with a new $250 fine for SWP. Smoking without play. Why is it that smoking is always allowed in the casinos? Is it a fact that smokers and gamblers have similar "addictive" traits and non-smokers less so? It seems to me that the cruise industry uses this addictive personality to lure them into their casinos to spend money especially since one cannot smoke there unless they are playing. Princess has a few evenings on each cruise where smoking is not allowed in the casino--usually formal nights. I wonder if Carnival will eventually go that route as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisin thru life Posted July 9, 2014 #60 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Anyone interested in the fabulous extend balcony #6232 on the Pride Nov 30th 2014, it just opened up with my cancellation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy.capitan Posted July 9, 2014 #61 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Why is it that smoking is always allowed in the casinos? Is it a fact that smokers and gamblers have similar "addictive" traits and non-smokers less so? It seems to me that the cruise industry uses this addictive personality to lure them into their casinos to spend money especially since one cannot smoke there unless they are playing. Princess has a few evenings on each cruise where smoking is not allowed in the casino--usually formal nights. I wonder if Carnival will eventually go that route as well. Casinos on Celebrity are and have been non-smoking, so I think that takes care of that theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballMomof4 Posted July 9, 2014 #62 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hope you booked it for this year. Word is that NCL will be doing same in 2015. Maybe it's time for smokers to start a letter writing campaign of their own to NCL. Or maybe they are enjoying the jump in business and will reconsider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladylikes2cruise Posted July 9, 2014 #63 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Huh? The only indoor space on RCI that I'm aware of which allows smoking is the casino. :confused: What "concierge"?? Explorer-deck 5, starboard, just past the cafe promenade, just beyond the glass elevator, before the theater. Liberty- deck 5, just pass Sorrentos, starboard. My bad, it's called the Connoisseur lounge:o FYI: There is a jazz lounge on the Splendor, Conquest class and Triumph class ships that allows smoking. When we were on the Freedom and the Liberty, they were mostly empty. Occasionally, they did karaoke in there. never saw or found it:confused:, when we were on the Splendor, Freedom 2x, Liberty or the Triumph. Have look thru all my Fun Times (yes, I keep them:p) no mention of allowed smoking there, and yes, mostly empty or closed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepeka Posted July 10, 2014 #64 Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Explorer-deck 5, starboard, just past the cafe promenade, just beyond the glass elevator, before the theater.Liberty- deck 5, just pass Sorrentos, starboard. My bad, it's called the Connoisseur lounge:o never saw or found it:confused:, when we were on the Splendor, Freedom 2x, Liberty or the Triumph. Have look thru all my Fun Times (yes, I keep them:p) no mention of allowed smoking there, and yes, mostly empty or closed off. Ah yes, there are the cigar bars on the Voyager and Freedom class ships (the Connoisseur Club). But that's less than half the ships in the RCI fleet. Edited July 10, 2014 by joepeka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meglet Posted July 10, 2014 #65 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Sammee Smokers ARE willing to give an inch. We gave the inch by not smoking in cabins. Look at all the compromise -suggesting posts in this thread and others - paying an additional fee, booking only cabins at the rear of the ship, or confining smoking cabins to low decks and inside. We've given the inch and remain quite willing to give another few inches to meet somewhere in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammee Posted July 10, 2014 #66 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Sammee Smokers ARE willing to give an inch. We gave the inch by not smoking in cabins. Look at all the compromise -suggesting posts in this thread and others - paying an additional fee, booking only cabins at the rear of the ship, or confining smoking cabins to low decks and inside. We've given the inch and remain quite willing to give another few inches to meet somewhere in the middle. Woah! Hold on I'm a vapor trying quitting the cigs and have always tried to do what's right. Basically this hole thread has gone to the crapper from both sides, things that nobody (in their right mind) would say on the ship. I was just trying to make poster feel less frustrated about taking a cruise because of the bickering. If you want me to come out and say it I will. I will vape as I see fit. I will not be intimidated by the hot air on this board. But at the same side, I haven't been in here throwing that up in their faces. It seems there's quite a few that are doing a fine job of it and handling it better than me. But if I typed what was honestly going on in my head, I'd probably be banned. There's a select few that really would make me feel better to just tell off. They are just way over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragethjj23 Posted July 10, 2014 #67 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Funny...I heard word from Kevin Sheehan that there are no plans to change NCL smoking policy in the future in January this year Of course he will say that. Just like John H did not publicize the fact they were changing policies. They will change it overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hargus Posted July 10, 2014 #68 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Smokers really should not be concerned about this new policy. For myself I downgraded my next cruise from a balcony to an interior room(saved 600.00). Now instead of having the luxury of smoking on my balcony I will be able to spend all of my time out in the public areas of the deck smoking with everyone. Thanks Carnival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkygma Posted July 10, 2014 #69 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I will no longer book with carnival. I'm sure a lot of folks out there will be happy about that, I truly get it. I only smoke on my balcony not in any approved inside smoking areas, personally I don't like smoke in my face either!! Last year on the Conquest several mornings I found cigarette butts on my deck, one evening I saw two fly off an upper deck!! Thanks to the stupid smokers out there I feel you are as responsible for this decision as are the non smokers! Thank you for letting me vent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgratru Posted July 10, 2014 #70 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Applaud this policy change....smokers cancelling is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCPL76 Posted July 10, 2014 #71 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Holland allows Vapors in Guest rooms, so Save UP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyannea Posted July 10, 2014 #72 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Holland allows Vapors in Guest rooms, so Save UP http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/e-cigarettes-the-battery-may-be-the-real-problem-030714.html I just posted this link on another thread. Though rare that it would happen. Research up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPFKAH Posted July 10, 2014 #73 Share Posted July 10, 2014 http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/e-cigarettes-the-battery-may-be-the-real-problem-030714.html I just posted this link on another thread. Though rare that it would happen. Research up Like it says, the risk is just as high for a cell phone or a laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evandbob Posted July 10, 2014 #74 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I thought Paradise non-smoking "experiment" failed (at least in part) because they couldn't find enough nonsmoking crew. If anything I think it proves that getting an entire ship to go non-smoking will be impossible, if for any reason because of the crew. Many of the crew hail from counties where smoking is still somewhat popular (compared to the US), and the cruise lines can't afford to lose those employees who do (at least all at once). As one who sailed the Paradise twice, I always thought the reason why it went out of favor was due to never changing its itinerary. The crew told me they loved the non smoking ship and that their contracts were waitlisted to get onto it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliair Posted July 10, 2014 #75 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I will no longer book with carnival. I'm sure a lot of folks out there will be happy about that, I truly get it. I only smoke on my balcony not in any approved inside smoking areas, personally I don't like smoke in my face either!! Last year on the Conquest several mornings I found cigarette butts on my deck, one evening I saw two fly off an upper deck!! Thanks to the stupid smokers out there I feel you are as responsible for this decision as are the non smokers! Thank you for letting me vent. During muster drill, it's stressed over and over not to throw cigarette butts off the ship - don't throw anything off the ship. I'm wondering if that's how the fire on the Star Princess got started. It started on a balcony from a cigarette--possibly being flown back onto a balcony left smoldering then the fire. I mentioned on another thread that 1 man died, several people injured, and 100+ cabins damaged. So, cigarette smoking is a fire hazard on the ship. It matters not if people don't cruise on Carnival/Princess or any ship that has adopted the no smoking policy. It's somewhat of a big worry off of the cruiseline's shoulder. People say they won't cruise again, but I suspect they will because they like the cheap vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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