AtlantaCruiser72 Posted April 17, 2015 #2301 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Not for us, I need a good connection next week :rolleyes: Regarding Ensenada/Hawaii or Hawaii/Ensenada -- in the past, these itineraries have not sold well, resulting in price drops after final payment. We sailed on them many times, from 1999-2004 (Rhapsody, Vision, Legend, Radiance), because we are on the West Coast and love Hawaii, but getting to and from Ensenada from San Diego is not a good way to start or end the cruise. Until the Jones Act / PVSA are repealed or amended ( creating a carve out for foreign flagged cruise ships) This remains the only viable option other than ending in Vancouver, which is not possible for Explorer. Victoria has logistical challenges (high cost of transport for passengers, availability of supplies, fuel etc) that would probably make a repo from Hawaii even less attractive. I firmly believe she will go via Ensenada and that RCCL knows from historical data exactly what strategies they need to follow to make the repo break-even at the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltjn Posted April 17, 2015 #2302 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Check out the prices for suite on the Adventure of the Seas for the 10 night leaving 29 March 2017. Are those prices for real or am I missing something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaCruiser72 Posted April 17, 2015 #2303 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Is there firm evidence that Emerald will cruise Alaska in 2017? That would be great; another choice for the Pacific crossing and some more competition as well. Just wondering, because we are planning to cruise Alaska that year. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk She is repositioning to Australia for winter 2016/17 and general consensus on the Princess boards is she will sail Alaska summer 2017. That obviously could change, but I think with Ocean and Pacific both gone by 2017, Coral and Island both most likely in Europe and with the third Royal class ship coming into service it certainly makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisndeefromde Posted April 18, 2015 #2304 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Check out the prices for suite on the Adventure of the Seas for the 10 night leaving 29 March 2017. Are those prices for real or am I missing something! Somebody is drinking special juice over in the pricing department for sure. I have done a b2b doing nine ports for less than the costs showing on this....hope it changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pspercy Posted April 18, 2015 #2305 Share Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) She is repositioning to Australia for winter 2016/17 and general consensus on the Princess boards is she will sail Alaska summer 2017. That obviously could change, but I think with Ocean and Pacific both gone by 2017, Coral and Island both most likely in Europe and with the third Royal class ship coming into service it certainly makes sense. Being sold ? They're the two from old Renaissance aren't they? Edited April 18, 2015 by pspercy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff2802 Posted April 18, 2015 #2306 Share Posted April 18, 2015 She is repositioning to Australia for winter 2016/17 and general consensus on the Princess boards is she will sail Alaska summer 2017. That obviously could change, but I think with Ocean and Pacific both gone by 2017, Coral and Island both most likely in Europe and with the third Royal class ship coming into service it certainly makes sense. That does make sense, and another ship crossing the Pacific twice a year is very welcome, particularly a nice modern one like Emerald. [emoji4] Some more speculation on Ovation... The last of the entries in the Sydney OPT schedule with the unusually late departure time (23:59) is Jan 23, 2017. There is an entry for Voyager of the Seas in *both* the Darwin and Sydney port schedules on Jan 31. I think the. Darwin one is actually for Ovation. Eight days from Sydney to Darwin is about right, allowing for 2 stops (Brisbane and one more). Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsvd79 Posted April 18, 2015 #2307 Share Posted April 18, 2015 They now have a 10 night Southern Caribbean cruise on the Adventure open for booking for March 29, 2017. However, there are still no cruises for Jan, Feb, or early March, 2017. Where does it sail to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juiceman Posted April 18, 2015 #2308 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Where does it sail to? Charlotte Amalie, St Thomas St Johns, Antigua Castries, St Lucia Bridgetown, Barbados Kralendijk, Bonaire Willemstad, Curacao Oranjestad, Aruba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcruiser16 Posted April 18, 2015 #2309 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Somebody is drinking special juice over in the pricing department for sure. I have done a b2b doing nine ports for less than the costs showing on this....hope it changes. I looked at that as well, mainly to get an idea what they will be offering on the Adventure for Jan/Feb. I was shocked. We want to go away for 4 weeks so I am going to book the cruises when the itineraries come out. If they don't come down to a reasonable rate, I will just cancel and do something different. I am definitely NOT paying those prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelgoddess1 Posted April 18, 2015 #2310 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Until the Jones Act / PVSA are repealed or amended ( creating a carve out for foreign flagged cruise ships) This remains the only viable option other than ending in Vancouver, which is not possible for Explorer. Victoria has logistical challenges (high cost of transport for passengers, availability of supplies, fuel etc) that would probably make a repo from Hawaii even less attractive. I firmly believe she will go via Ensenada and that RCCL knows from historical data exactly what strategies they need to follow to make the repo break-even at the least. Living on and cruising from the West Coast makes me familiar with the "Jones Act," as we get a lot of point-to-point (vs. RT) itineraries, with their own special rules. So, I am aware of the intricacies of building itineraries that will satisfy the law, as well as matching the ships to the capabilites and infrastructures in the ports. :) RCI does not always seem to know, either from historical data or any other resource, how to price their sailings. One claim they make about why they do not have a ship on the West Coast is because they can't make a profit here. It's speculation at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulette3028 Posted April 18, 2015 #2311 Share Posted April 18, 2015 RCI does not always seem to know, either from historical data or any other resource, how to price their sailings. One claim they make about why they do not have a ship on the West Coast is because they can't make a profit here. It's speculation at this point. I find it ridiculous when a 'customer' accuses a company that has been in their business for years (and has been very profitable at it) of 'not knowing how to price their sailings'. From your signature, I can see you are in the Pinnacle Club, but that doesn't give you access to their board room or any other area of the company that would be involved in determining 'what they need to be able to make a profit (or the kind of profit they want) from sailing a ship from the West Coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish6 Posted April 18, 2015 #2312 Share Posted April 18, 2015 For any TAs that may be on this thread ..... Can you see any pricing for the Anthem 12 day sailing on March 6, 2017? I know it will be pricey but was hoping to find out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindyJohn Posted April 18, 2015 #2313 Share Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) I looked at that as well, mainly to get an idea what they will be offering on the Adventure for Jan/Feb. I was shocked. We want to go away for 4 weeks so I am going to book the cruises when the itineraries come out. If they don't come down to a reasonable rate, I will just cancel and do something different. I am definitely NOT paying those prices. With the prices we're seeing, RCCL cruisers are going to be giving lots more business to the price drop websites ;) Edited April 18, 2015 by MindyJohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike x ftc Posted April 18, 2015 #2314 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Sorry, I have tried searching this thread with no luck, does anyone know when the Sept Hawaii sailings will be released?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Junky Posted April 18, 2015 #2315 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Being sold ? They're the two from old Renaissance aren't they? Ocean has been sold already to Oceania. I'm sure Pacific won't be hanging around too much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamato5girls Posted April 18, 2015 #2316 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Tried searching this thread, but no luck. When will they post the 2017 transatlantic as I'd love to surprise my hubby with one?;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted April 18, 2015 #2317 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Tried searching this thread, but no luck. When will they post the 2017 transatlantic as I'd love to surprise my hubby with one?;) If you mean transatlantics for the summer/fall of 2017, those won't be out for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelgoddess1 Posted April 18, 2015 #2318 Share Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) (Sanity prevailed) Edited April 18, 2015 by travelgoddess1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted April 18, 2015 #2319 Share Posted April 18, 2015 (Sanity prevailed) Biting your tongue hurts.:D:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelgoddess1 Posted April 18, 2015 #2320 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Amen to that. :rolleyes: :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptSticky Posted April 18, 2015 #2321 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Amen to that. :rolleyes: :D We noticed your restraint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVU Posted April 18, 2015 #2322 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Amen to that. :rolleyes: :D I too took notice....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiiergirl Posted April 19, 2015 #2323 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Living on and cruising from the West Coast makes me familiar with the "Jones Act," as we get a lot of point-to-point (vs. RT) itineraries, with their own special rules. So, I am aware of the intricacies of building itineraries that will satisfy the law, as well as matching the ships to the capabilites and infrastructures in the ports. :) RCI does not always seem to know, either from historical data or any other resource, how to price their sailings. One claim they make about why they do not have a ship on the West Coast is because they can't make a profit here. It's speculation at this point. Yes, I believe you do know your stuff!". (Sanity prevailed) Lol! You are a better person than I. Holding my tongue (or fingers from the keyboard) is not my strong suit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiiergirl Posted April 19, 2015 #2324 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Amen to that. :rolleyes: :D Lol.....I thought you had a chair in the boardroom with your name on it. I am so disappointed to learn differently,:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVU Posted April 19, 2015 #2325 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Amen to that. :rolleyes: :D Lol.....I thought you had a chair in the boardroom with your name on it. I am so disappointed to learn differently,:D:D Yes, by now they should have a reserved spot!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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