sidari Posted October 2, 2017 #1676 Share Posted October 2, 2017 As are the glass walkways on the port and starboard side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzbuddy87 Posted October 2, 2017 #1677 Share Posted October 2, 2017 We are booked on Seaside in July. We booked deck 11 aft s2 11210. It looks like it has a different balcony ( larger?) Due to the canbin it is next to with the whirl pool tub on balcony. Any idea if our suite is any larger or if the balcony is bigger? I didn't pick it , it was just given to me and since there weren't many left i wasn't going to be picky😊 The stateroom and veranda are slightly larger, due to the position on the hump of the ship. The basic stateroom is the same size, though there is an additional triangle shape area where the stateroom would end (at the sliding doors). Though the extra space in the stateroom is not "a lot," it is a no cost extra. On the other hand, the veranda is much larger because of its location the hump. We booked one of these S2 suites when the Seaside was released, then later sailed in a similar position (B2, on the hump) on the Divina. Your specific veranda will give you a wonderful panoramic view of the aft of the ship, and may be able to look down to the promenade deck (as I was able to do on the Divina). If this is the case, it will add scale and composition to photography - especially at night time when the promenade deck is illuminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBill99 Posted October 2, 2017 #1678 Share Posted October 2, 2017 The stateroom and veranda are slightly larger, due to the position on the hump of the ship. The basic stateroom is the same size, though there is an additional triangle shape area where the stateroom would end (at the sliding doors). Though the extra space in the stateroom is not "a lot," it is a no cost extra. It's not a no-cost extra, since you're paying more to be in an S2 than you would be in a normal balcony, and it's unclear that being in an S2 gives you anything else beyond the bigger cabin (as we recently discussed here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicfairy Posted October 2, 2017 #1679 Share Posted October 2, 2017 You just mad my day! Sent from my SM-J700T1 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helenb Posted October 2, 2017 #1680 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Some new photos from MSC fans .... https://www.mscfans.it/seaside-class/msc-seaside-work-in-progress/ They look great.... except for that tiger-skin carpet! Yowsa! That's pretty hideous! It's a shame, since the rest of the ship looks so nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbbob Posted October 2, 2017 #1681 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Dr. Cocktail, Thanks for posting the link.....getting excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzbuddy87 Posted October 3, 2017 #1682 Share Posted October 3, 2017 The stateroom and veranda are slightly larger, due to the position on the hump of the ship. The basic stateroom is the same size, though there is an additional triangle shape area where the stateroom would end (at the sliding doors). Though the extra space in the stateroom is not "a lot," it is a no cost extra. On the other hand, the veranda is much larger because of its location the hump. It's not a no-cost extra, since you're paying more to be in an S2 than you would be in a normal balcony, and it's unclear that being in an S2 gives you anything else beyond the bigger cabin (as we recently discussed here). It is indeed a no extra cost - referring to the triangle of stateroom space, and the larger veranda. I was not referring to different categories (B2 vs S2). NCL imposes a surcharge if you want a stateroom with a larger veranda, as compared to another stateroom with similar category and similar location. MSC does not surcharge to select a stateroom on the hump, whether it's a B2 on the Divina, or S2 on the Seaside. Yes, MSC imposes a higher price for an S2 versus a B2, but that has nothing to do with the extra "triangle" of space in the stateroom, nor does it have anything to do with the larger veranda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtalum Posted October 3, 2017 #1683 Share Posted October 3, 2017 They look great.... except for that tiger-skin carpet! Yowsa! That's pretty hideous! It's a shame, since the rest of the ship looks so nice. I bet it will look good once it's all furnished. Then again, I've always been partial to the, er, "loud" design on Carnival's ships. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeriteR Posted October 3, 2017 #1684 Share Posted October 3, 2017 They look great.... except for that tiger-skin carpet! Yowsa! That's pretty hideous! It's a shame, since the rest of the ship looks so nice. Poesia has zebra skin carpet! Sent from my LG-M210 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanigor Posted October 3, 2017 #1685 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Poesia has zebra skin carpet! Does any ship have giraffe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBill99 Posted October 3, 2017 #1686 Share Posted October 3, 2017 [/url] Does any ship have giraffe? Not MSC, but Royal Caribbean's Anthem of the Seas does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBill99 Posted October 3, 2017 #1687 Share Posted October 3, 2017 It is indeed a no extra cost - referring to the triangle of stateroom space, and the larger veranda. I was not referring to different categories (B2 vs S2). NCL imposes a surcharge if you want a stateroom with a larger veranda, as compared to another stateroom with similar category and similar location. MSC does not surcharge to select a stateroom on the hump, whether it's a B2 on the Divina, or S2 on the Seaside. Yes, MSC imposes a higher price for an S2 versus a B2, but that has nothing to do with the extra "triangle" of space in the stateroom, nor does it have anything to do with the larger veranda. I don't want to argue about this, but given that an S2 category gives no additional benefits beyond the larger cabin/balcony, and all of the S2 cabins are the same size and are larger than normal balcony cabins, I don't see how you can say that you're not paying extra for the space. How else do you justify the higher price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted October 3, 2017 #1688 Share Posted October 3, 2017 You are paying extra because it's a different category, not because of the room or balcony space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunkissed Mommy Posted October 4, 2017 #1689 Share Posted October 4, 2017 You are paying extra because it's a different category, not because of the room or balcony space. I am fairly certain it is a different category BECAUSE of the extra balcony and room space... Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted October 4, 2017 #1690 Share Posted October 4, 2017 You are paying extra because the cabin is slightly bigger and the balcony is also bigger than the other Fanstatica regular cabins. The S2s are considered as suites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted October 4, 2017 #1691 Share Posted October 4, 2017 NCL imposes a surcharge if you want a stateroom with a larger veranda, as compared to another stateroom with similar category and similar location.Not always.There are a few "secret" balconies that are larger than those in the same category and are the exact same price. There are "extended balcony" categories which cost more but a balcony on the "bump out" (aka angled balcony) will cost the same as the standard balcony that is next to it if they are the same category. Other "secrets" may be wider than standard, for ex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted October 4, 2017 #1692 Share Posted October 4, 2017 The only reason that the S2 is more expensive is because of one word "Suite" it is a Balcony cabin but MSC have decided to call it a Suite hence you pay more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzbuddy87 Posted October 4, 2017 #1693 Share Posted October 4, 2017 It is indeed a no extra cost - referring to the triangle of stateroom space, and the larger veranda. I was not referring to different categories (B2 vs S2). NCL imposes a surcharge if you want a stateroom with a larger veranda, as compared to another stateroom with similar category and similar location. MSC does not surcharge to select a stateroom on the hump, whether it's a B2 on the Divina, or S2 on the Seaside. Yes, MSC imposes a higher price for an S2 versus a B2, but that has nothing to do with the extra "triangle" of space in the stateroom, nor does it have anything to do with the larger veranda. I don't want to argue about this, but given that an S2 category gives no additional benefits beyond the larger cabin/balcony, and all of the S2 cabins are the same size and are larger than normal balcony cabins, I don't see how you can say that you're not paying extra for the space. How else do you justify the higher price? Bill - I don't think you understand what I am saying. MSC has ships which have I2, B2 and S2 staterooms which vary in size (interior space and/or veranda). MSC does not impose an additional fee for a stateroom with more space (interior or veranda) within its respective category. Naturally, a B2 will cost more than an I2, and an S2 will cost more than a B2. Conversely, other cruise lines charge more for a stateroom because of slightly more interior space or a larger veranda. Check out Norwegian Epic, deck 12 (category B6 vs. BA). https://www.cruisedeckplans.com/DP/deckplans/deckbydeck.php?ship=Norwegian-Epic&deck=12 My previous post was specifically referencing the additional interior "triangle" space and the larger veranda. In comparing MSC Seaside S2 staterooms #9208 vs #15040, 9208 has a veranda which is larger than 15040. There is no difference in price for these S2 staterooms. In comparing MSC Divina B2 staterooms #12093, #12095 and #12097, 12093 has more interior space (due to its proximity on the hump) AND has a larger veranda as compared to 12095 and 12097 (though the larger interior space is not shown on the deckplan). In addition, 12095 has a larger veranda as compared to 12097. There is no difference in price for these B2 staterooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzbuddy87 Posted October 4, 2017 #1694 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Not always. There are a few "secret" balconies that are larger than those in the same category and are the exact same price. There are "extended balcony" categories which cost more but a balcony on the "bump out" (aka angled balcony) will cost the same as the standard balcony that is next to it if they are the same category. Other "secrets" may be wider than standard, for ex. Yes, most every cruise line has ships with anomalies. However, in the example I cited (Epic BA/B6), there was no difference between the two staterooms, other than the larger veranda (due to its proximity on the hump). In this case, NCL is charging more for the larger veranda. At this point, nobody knows whether an S2 will have any upgrades as compared to a B2. When I booked my S2, I did so because of the additional interior space. Granted, in December 2015, the difference in size of S2 vs B2 was much more dramatic as compared to what is reflected on the website today (215 vs 177 sf). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyed Posted October 4, 2017 #1695 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I don't want to argue about this, but given that an S2 category gives no additional benefits beyond the larger cabin/balcony, and all of the S2 cabins are the same size and are larger than normal balcony cabins, I don't see how you can say that you're not paying extra for the space. How else do you justify the higher price? I had a Fantastica Balcony on Divina and we had the big, partly wedge shaped balcony and it was the same price as all the other Fantastica balconies when we booked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fostelo Posted October 4, 2017 #1696 Share Posted October 4, 2017 WOW[emoji848] Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted October 5, 2017 #1697 Share Posted October 5, 2017 WOW[emoji848] Sent from my iPhone using Forums Fostelo - Any new photo updates? Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted October 5, 2017 #1698 Share Posted October 5, 2017 TC ... your best bet is www.mscfans.it which is where most photos have been taken from apart from those sent to either myself or Mike who started the thread. The recent ones sent to myself are posted elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fostelo Posted October 5, 2017 #1699 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Or from people i follow on instagram Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBill99 Posted October 5, 2017 #1700 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I had a Fantastica Balcony on Divina and we had the big, partly wedge shaped balcony and it was the same price as all the other Fantastica balconies when we booked. My previous post was specifically referencing the additional interior "triangle" space and the larger veranda. In comparing MSC Seaside S2 staterooms #9208 vs #15040, 9208 has a veranda which is larger than 15040. There is no difference in price for these S2 staterooms. In comparing MSC Divina B2 staterooms #12093, #12095 and #12097, 12093 has more interior space (due to its proximity on the hump) AND has a larger veranda as compared to 12095 and 12097 (though the larger interior space is not shown on the deckplan). In addition, 12095 has a larger veranda as compared to 12097. There is no difference in price for these B2 staterooms. That's nice, but this thread is about Seaside. Are there any normal Fantastica balcony cabins which have larger balconies, or have they all been moved into S2 so they can charge more for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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