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God afternoon coolers!

 

I have been alarmed to hear from my youngest son how many of his peers are receiving treatment for depression and anxiety. Is it that depression and anxiety is increasing or is it that it is being treated as such to quickly .... or both?

 

You'd need to know the historic and current incidence to make that second sentence pertinent. However, you raise an important point in that the increase in treatments for a condition does not necessarily mean that the incidence of the underlying condition is increasing - it may be better diagnosis, new treament previously unavailable and, most importantly, whether a condition is particularly fashionable at the time.

 

I know that sounds cynical but we used to have ''Woman's Own Wedenesday'' when I was in practice. WO mag came out on a Tuesday and always carried a health-related article - the following day a significant number of patients would attend convinced they were suffering from that malady. And although I single out that august organ, there is definitely a tendency for an unusual condition to become suddenly raised by the press as if it were previously unknown - currently Lyme disease and Vit D deficiency are the diseases du jour. In fact there was an ''exclusive'' in the Daily Mail a couple of years ago about some condition or other which we have been happily treating for the past 30 years that they presented as something new, deadly and terrifying! Typical gutter press.

 

Re. anxiety and depression: certainly there is much less of a stigma attached to mental ill-health now than, say, 30 years ago. I wonder if those that might have suffered in silence back then would now feel it easier to broach the subject? Nevertheless, mental health issues still carry an undeserved stigma and rather than being shocked that young people seek help, I think we should be grateful that they can.

 

It's a very tricky area of medicine and one which I never really felt comfortable with - largely because I always felt inadequate in both the diagnosis and treatment of these common conditions.

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Yes, I get your point.

 

It's also interesting that once a "disease" is "legitimised" it's occurrence expands exponentially. Things like a attention deficit hyperactivity disorder jump to mind. We didn't have that as kids as far as I know. When I see it, it often looks like ineffective parenting.

 

Post traumatic stress syndrome is another to a degree. The automatic offering of "counselling" before it is even requested when for example school children suffer a loss of a class mate. I wonder if once you say that a problem is so upsetting to the degree that requires counselling it then increases to become it ie a sort of community outpouring of rather theatrical grief if you get my drift.

 

Just an observation.

 

I see we have an actress Honeysuckle Weeks has gone for a wander. I do so hope she turns up safely.

 

Jeff

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It's also interesting that once a "disease" is "legitimised" it's occurrence expands exponentially. Things like a attention deficit hyperactivity disorder jump to mind. We didn't have that as kids as far as I know. When I see it, it often looks like ineffective parenting.

Not at all my field of expertise but I am struck by the number of parents who claim their little cherubs have ADHD yet have not be definitively diagnosed. As you suggest, it's a handy label sometimes.

Post traumatic stress syndrome is another to a degree. The automatic offering of "counselling" before it is even requested when for example school children suffer a loss of a class mate. I wonder if once you say that a problem is so upsetting to the degree that requires counselling it then increases to become it ie a sort of community outpouring of rather theatrical grief if you get my drift.

I don't think many would disagree with that assessment - I think we've reached a stage where defensive medicine is being practised ie if counselling isn't offered and some future calamity can be traced back to the event for which the counselling could have been offered then that can be blamed.

 

I have to say that PTSD is real and it is devastating. If you recall I was a military surgeon and I am in no doubt that extreme experiences can have more than just physical repercussions - indeed, PTSD is as much of an injury as a lost limb but very much harder to spot and treat (and potentially even more life-changing).

 

I see we have an actress Honeysuckle Weeks has gone for a wander. I do so hope she turns up safely.

 

Indeed.

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I totally agree. I have often felt that it is a shame that PTsD wasn't understood more during WW1, when less men would have been spared the slur of cowardice and execution. It has always seemed an appropriate diagnosis in the military situation, but my comment related to what I see as overuse outside the military for what simply use to be called "shock".

 

Well, it looks like we're going to suffer more rounds of interest rate cuts and they are even talking about Santander reducing it's 123 account to 122! It is getting more and more difficult to earn a few quid from your savings these days!

 

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Hi Coolers

 

Back to light-hearted rubbish. I love those old translations from French phrases, currently being rolled out in the Times. Favourite today is Magnum Opus - a big Irish cat. My old fave which has not yet appeared is 'tant pis, tant mieux' - auntie is much better now she has been to the comfort station.

 

I share the concern about everyone being offered counselling after something awful has happened; normally not necessary. It also tends to detract from the really necessary counselling for people like ex-soldiers. My father-in-law would not speak about his experiences in the first World War, as a very young man, and it certainly affected him emotionally for the rest of his life. My own uncle was gassed, and was mentally unstable afterwards for the rest of his life. As an oldie, I am afraid I sometimes feel that if you don't have to worry about actually being able to live a decent life you have to find something else to latch on to. It is very sad when some of the young and healthy and fairly well off are so miserable, just when life should be at its best.

 

Enough pontificating

 

Regards to all

 

Lola

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I'm just back from Guatemala City and . . . . oh no, I'm sorry that was a mistake. It was London that I'm back from! It looked a bit like Guatemala City, apart from the odd palm tree, but it was up there with sheer squalor. I've never seen the centre of the city look so awful - people dossing in doorways, litter everywhere, the roads falling apart as if earthquakes were a common occurrence and apart from that it's a building site because of Crossrail. It was also strangely empty, which is surprising given the low pound at the moment. Even a big store like Selfridges on a Saturday morning was deserted with sales staff having nothing better to do than pick their noses and ignore you. The food hall is a pale shadow of its former self and those choice items I sought were not available. And I was terribly sad to see that London's best butcher, Allen's, opposite the Connaught, had closed for good. I came away with some speciality pasta and cotechino sausage bought from a deli in Soho. I don't think I'll ever go again. The truth is, I'm embarrassed by the city I once called home.

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It is sad Fletch. Were you in Old Compton Street for your pasta? They use to sell fresh Italian bread there and of course the Algerian Coffee shop was the place to buy green coffee beans or do a bespoke blend for you. Now of course it is all different there. I use to run a club in D'arblay street just off of Wardour Street, when soho was Soho.

 

I don't go back much because sometimes memories are better than going back.

 

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Jeff, I got the pasta and the cotechino in Lina's, 18 Brewer Street, similar place to Luigi and Camisa in Old Compton Street.

 

Do you ever cook cotechino? An amazing thing, this piggy, porky, fatty sausage that you boil in its foil wrapper and serve with lentils and an Italian condiment called mostarda di Cremona, though it also goes well with a salsa verde.

 

I got to know Soho in the 60s when I started going to the movies fairly obsessively. Wardour Street was full of film distributors. There was a Wheeler's fish restaurant opposite the Casino Cinerama (home of How The West Was Won and 2001); I went a few times to the trendy Trattoria Terrazza restaurant as well as the Gay Hussar. I too bought my coffee from the Algerian Stores. And I spent many a lunch hour eating sandwiches in Soho Square. It was a real village. Like Hampstead in a different way.

 

Of course it was always a bit seedy-sleazy but it had real character and charm. Today when I went there it just looked squalid and clapped out. You're right - memories are better than going back.

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We were clearly there at roughly the same time but for different purposes.

 

Some of the record companies were in the same buildings as the distributors. Elektra records was a single small office ran by Clive Selwood in I believe United (or Paramount) at 2 Dean Street? I was on their mailing list and use to help them choose a and b sides for bands like Doors, and Love, and people like David Ackles etc .. I met David there once .... he wrote Road to Cairo which was actually recorded and made a hit by Julie Driscoll with the Brian Auger Trinity which I saw recorded at Polydor studios which was next door to Selfridges. I chose some As and Bs for Elektra that did extremely well and they were always "very good" to me.

 

I use to visit Polydor often because Stax, Atlantic and Track and other labels were in the Polydor offices. I use to go with a friend named Graham Dee who was the first non-American to produce for Stax/Atlantic ... and I saw him record "Stay with me Baby" by Sharon Tandy. That was a day for a kid like me. I was on the mailing list for all Polydor including Stax and Atlantic .. so my Fridays were always bumper!

 

EMI were always good to visit in Manchester Square but the people there were less fun because they simply didn't know much about music, but being on their mailing list was the real prize because they were releasing dozens of records per week. I met Lulu there a few times amongst others but she wasn't as much fun as you might think. Decca was next to the Palladium for all Rolling Stones related activity .... and the boss was Tony Hall. Apple in Baker street was always full of people and seemed totally shambolic.

 

The center of the industry was of course Denmark Street where mornings were spent over coffee nursing a single frothy coffee in The Giaconda which I believe is still there. At some point everyone would pop in. And of course around the corner where you would have your sandwiches in Soho Square housed De Lane Lea recording studios.

 

In those days everyone knew everyone and the music industry seemed like a ver small club.

 

My club, The Student Prince in D'Arblay street was the place many came to because the bar was nearly never closed and it was just up the road from the Ship in Wardour Street which was my local and where all the bands hung out if they weren't working. And of course there was The Marquee. Imagine being 16 or 17 and being able to get in for free whenever you wanted.

 

When I ran the club the two elderly Jewish ladies who ran the pub opposite to me were very protective of me and really tried to look after me. The pub was also "private rooms" upstairs, but all that seemed so normal to me.

 

Nostalgia ain't what it was. :)

 

Jeff

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Nostalgia ain't what it was. :) Jeff

 

Appreciate these great details on the music business, London's earlier days, plus current updates on this UK Capital, etc. Keep it coming.

 

Here in Ohio's State Capital city, we will have Hillary in town Sunday evening at a school location where she just visited last month. Then, Monday afternoon, right nearby at our downtown convention center, Trump will be here in our city for a "Town Hall" meeting.

 

Another unique factor or difference?? In 2012, it was only two months between the end of the political party conventions and Election Day. For 2016, it is going to be three full months of “crap” with the many, many campaigning stops, rallies, media commercials, recorded phone calls, direct mail, etc., etc.

 

The media and voters in Central Ohio are going to be very, very tired of politics by early November. Neither candidate is going to be spending much time talking about policy details and specifics. It is going to be attack, attack, counter-attacks, punch, punch, etc.

 

THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio

 

Did a June 7-19, 2011, cruise from Barcelona that had stops in Villefranche, ports near Pisa and Rome, Naples, Kotor, Venice and Dubrovnik. Dozens of nice visuals with key highlights, tips, comments, etc. We are now at 214,978 views for this live/blog re-cap, including much on wonderful Barcelona. Check these postings and added info at:

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Below are a couple of photo highlights from earlier this week. This includes seeing the totally politically incorrect movie by Mel Brooks titled "Blazing Saddles". Remember this classic from 1974? Below is one of the many, many key quotes from the movie:

 

Hadley Lamar (as played by Harvey Korman): My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

Taggart: God darnit, Mr. Lamarr, you use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore.

 

Any others like old movies being experienced in classic 1920's movie palaces? With organ music as "frosting" on the cake?

 

THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio

 

ForAthens and nearby, look at this earlier posting for many options and visual samples from this city that is so great for seeing its great history, style and architecture. This posting is now at 13,702 views.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1101008

 

 

Thursday afternoon as I came home from downtown, here was the "visitor" at our home. And, having early "dinner" at the expense of our hosta??!! We have lots of deer at our ravine location, even in the middle of this large city. This visual was captured with my iPhone camera.:

 

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Thursday evening, we did an old movie at the large, late 1920's-era downtown theatre in Columbus. Large, ornate theatre from the "good old days" are always fun and interesting. In the lead-up time, plus at intermission and at the end, the large organ comes up from the orchestra pit and plays great classic tunes. Fun!! Here is the organ player performing on this Robert Morton organ. It was made in Van Nuys, California, and installed in 1928. It was one of the four manual, twenty rank pipe organs installed in Loew's theaters. It is one of the few such organs to still be in its original home. The movie? Blazing Saddles!! Very and totally "politically incorrect" as masterfully crafted by superstar Mel Brooks. Remember this 1974 film? It is worth seeing again, especially on a large screen in a classic movie palace setting.:

 

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I guess it was only a matter of time before Terry, went over the edge and posted a picture of a bloke playing with his organ ..... :eek: Jeff

 

YES, Jeff, I am totally "GUILTY as charged." Appreciate your quick, alert efforts to make sure that folks are awake and paying attention to these postings. People are going to go back to that picture looking and looking for something that is not there!!

 

THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio

 

Wonderful Kotor and nearby Montenegro? Check these postings. Have had over 29,470 views on this posting and appreciate those who have tuned-in and commented.:

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No Terry, I looked again. It is definitely an old bloke playing with his organ. Jeff

 

Oh, Jeff, you were seeking THAT TYPE OF ORGAN?? You need to check out another type of website than here at CC! Sorry to disappoint.

 

To switch back to food, here are three items from a nice, higher-end dining location in Columbus that we were visiting last week with my sister and her husband from eastern Ohio. Like these food sample? They were just taken with my iPhone, not the better Nikon camera and lens.

 

Plus, below, is another activity preview for what is coming up soon in the USA in just one more month. It's FOOTBALL!! Both college and professional.

 

THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio

 

Enjoyed a 14-day, Jan. 20-Feb. 3, 2014, Sydney to Auckland adventure, getting a big sampling for the wonders of "down under” before and after this cruise. Go to:

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for more info and many pictures of these amazing sights in this great part of the world. Now at 151,251 views for this posting.

 

 

From the highly-rated Refrectory in Columbus, that is celebrating its 40th anniversary this year, here are the three treats that I enjoyed last week. First, is their Seafood Strudel with Leek Fondue and Lovage Cream Sauce. Second is the main course of Bourbon Brined Pork Tenderloin with Smoked Duck Sausage and Horseradish Veal Jus. For dessert, here is Vanilla Creme Brulee “Paul Bocuse” with Butter Sable. All excellent!! In our town, not many higher-end dining places are able to stay in business for 40 years. The owner is right there every night, keeping an eye on activities, talking with customers, etc. Fun and very tasty!!:

 

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As a sign that the football season is near, here is the Ohio State University Marching Band doing its summer prep on the field south of the 104,000-seat Ohio Stadium. In early September, college football will be in full motion!:

 

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The center of the industry was of course Denmark Street ......

 

Hello Jeff – greetings from the ‘spralizing lurker’ ;)

 

Your comments on Denmark Street caught my eye.

 

Whilst being too young for the whole Tin Pan Alley/Denmark Street thing, I’m quite familiar with the area, in fact it has featured in some of my recent reading.

 

I’m a great fan of the 3 novels of Robert Galbraith (a pseudonym for JK Rowling). The main character - a detective (the improbably named Cormoran Strike) – has his office in Denmark Street, above the 12 Bar Club., which has recently closed

Strike’s favourite boozer, across St.Giles Circus, is the only remaining pub on Oxford Street – The Tottenham – which has recently changed name to the ‘The Flying Horse’ I think.(sounds like something out of Coronation Street !).

I read somewhere that just 100 years or so ago there were 25 pubs scattered along Oxford Street – now there is only the one.

 

Looks like Ms Rowling will need to make some changes to Cormoran Strike’s locale in Book 4 !

 

Legend has it that Bowie and/or Bolan lived in a Dormobile on Denmark Street in the late 60’s before their breakthrough. Maybe you could comment on the accuracy of this claim ?

 

And finally – at the start of the 70’s , a teenage machotspur could be seen popping into Boosey & Hawkes shop just round the corner, obtaining new reeds for his clarinet :eek: - not exactly rock'n'roll !

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Hi there M,

 

Lovely to hear of you and Denmark Street!

 

As you'd expect of someone who spent a fair amount of their mispent youth there I have so many stories mostly trivial and of very little interest.

 

Yes Marc and David were friends and use to come into the Gioconda to borrow people's Melody Maker to see if any slots in any bands were being advertised. I was aware of Bowie living in a camper van in the street but not Bolan, but I think it became somewhat impractical because even then parking was single yellow lines so I wonder whether he was regularly moved on. It wasn't uncommon for bands to sleep in their Dormobiles over night around the area. The cast of Hair was largely filled from The Gioconda and at one stage it looked like they both might join. I met many people there over the years aqnd friendships blossomed. In those days Denmark Street had started as the center for sheet music publishing and then management moved in and then some studios and music instrument shops.

 

In fact because of my record playing, and the club in D'arblay street and the fact I knew so many bands, I decided to become a licensed agent and applied at the age of 17 which made me the youngest ever licensed entertainment agent in the UK - the normal "recommended" minimum age being 26 in those days because you had to prove both charecter and experience. Basically an Entertainment Agent's Licence was a standard employment ageny licence but was listed as "for people or persons in the entertainment indusctry" and was bizarrely issued by the local councils "Officer of Health" for some reason. Basically it meant that I could book bands directly with them at a lower rate than through normal channels. They would earn more by cutting out their managers and I'd take a cut.

 

You mentioned Boosey and Hawkes and that was where Chris Squire of Yes use to work part time in order to play with the guitars etc. My girlfriend and his girlfriend shared a flat in Drayton Gardens and we often stayed there at the same time for periods, and this was during Chris's "non communicative" year ... I think it was '67 or so. I also had other jobs which took me away to Paris and Cheltenham etc On one day, I recall the Troggs came in because they had a long-standing booking to cover for another band even though they were at that stage a top band. They came in to have their base drum covered with the other bands name. ;)

 

A few doors along from there was Macari's and the owner Jo Macari had a very sweet daughter named Glo Macari who he was always trying to get on TV.

 

The Giocondo seemed to me to be the center of morning life ..... and then The Ship took over .... and then work. But I was only in my early teens when all this started.

 

I guess these memories are rather boring .... so I'll stop! :D

 

Jeff

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Lovely to hear of you and Denmark Street!I guess these memories are rather boring .... so I'll stop! :D Jeff

 

Don't stop!! Great, interesting memories and details from the earlier music days. Keep it coming!!

 

From the News Corp Australia network and newspapers earlier this past week, they have this headline: "Safety and security is Australian tourism’s main strength in an uncertain world" with these highlights: "Australia’s image as a safe haven in an increasingly violent world is doing more for tourism than world-class attractions like the Great Barrier Reef. Research undertaken by Tourism Australia has found Australia is ranked number one worldwide as a destination associated with safety and security. Safety and security was also rated the most important factor in selecting a destination by 54 per cent of people in key overseas markets, ahead of value for money and natural beauty"

 

Lots of good points and examples are given in this story. Here was an important point made: "In the last year appalling acts of terrorism in Europe have taken a major toll on the tourism industry, with countries like Turkey seeing visitor numbers reduced by a third."

 

Lots to like, love, do and see in Australia. Wonderful people and sights there.

 

Full story at:

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/safety-and-security-is-australian-tourisms-main-strength-in-an-uncertain-world/news-story/897b93792b281b07c42cec024fa55c10

 

THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio

 

From our Jan. 25-Feb. 20, 2015, Amazon River-Caribbean combo sailing over 26 days that started in Barbados, here is the link below to that live/blog. Lots of great visuals from this amazing Brazil river and these various Caribbean Islands (Dutch ABC's, St. Barts, Dominica, Grenada, etc.) that we experienced. Check it out at:

http://www.boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2157696

Now at 40,775 views for these postings.

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What does a male deer do to top dining on our hosts from just a few days ago? You won't guess this one!! It's raiding our bird feeders. Is that too much?? Right in front of our kitchen window, plus within view from our upstairs bathroom window, you can see this deer caught in the act of stealing from the birds and squirrels who like to frequent our feeders. See the photo evidence below.

 

Is this an up-close, impressive wildlife view?

 

THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio

 

Did a June 7-19, 2011, cruise from Barcelona that had stops in Villefranche, ports near Pisa and Rome, Naples, Kotor, Venice and Dubrovnik. Dozens of nice visuals with key highlights, tips, comments, etc. We are now at 214,991 views for this live/blog re-cap, including much on wonderful Barcelona. Check these postings and added info at:

http://www.boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1426474

 

 

Here is one of our male deer in our ravine area in the middle of the city going for the food from one of our bird feeders. This young buck is not shy or restrained!:

 

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Just a short note to thank Jeff for his Singapore tips.

I ended up eating at Telok Ayer Market, aka Satay St, on most nights.

Can't say that Singapore gets a guernsey as a favourite destination , but I walked about 60k over the five days and covered everything I was interested in.

Amazing to have a simple feed and a mug of beer for $11, compared to last night at the Clifford Pier Buffet where the meal and a half a bottle of cheap Chablis cost me $160

A city of contrasts.....

BTW ... Sofitel So ( across the St from Telok Ayer)is a recent refurb of a classic building. They are trying very hard at the moment and it was a superb stay, highly reccommened.

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Just a short note to thank Jeff for his Singapore tips.

I ended up eating at Telok Ayer Market, aka Satay St, on most nights.

Can't say that Singapore gets a guernsey as a favourite destination , but I walked about 60k over the five days and covered everything I was interested in.

Amazing to have a simple feed and a mug of beer for $11, compared to last night at the Clifford Pier Buffet where the meal and a half a bottle of cheap Chablis cost me $160

A city of contrasts.....

BTW ... Sofitel So ( across the St from Telok Ayer)is a recent refurb of a classic building. They are trying very hard at the moment and it was a superb stay, highly reccommened.

 

How lovely of you to say "thanks" and I'm so pleased you enjoyed Singapre and Satay Street. Satay Street is our ritual first night first port of call for a Jug from a Tiger Aunty and some satay.

 

Did you decide on your favourite stall on night one and stick to it?

 

:D

 

Jeff

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Imhof . . . almost Soho, in New Oxford Street, just around the corner from the Dominion and opposite the Astoria. Imhof . . . they had serious hi-fi in the 60s, valve amplifiers - Quad from the UK and Fisher from the USA and a vast range of speakers, plus Akai reel-to-reel tape recorders. This is all for home use, of course.

 

Then downstairs the booths where you listened to a record you thought of purchasing, played on your personal stereo. I used to pop in their at lunchtimes and even buy the occasional album from Blue Note.

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Yes .... wonderful!

 

In January / February 2017 my weekly advert in the Melody Maker made me into a "pirate" and I couldn't go onto the boat because of my exisitng contracts (and it only paid £25 per week on the ship ....) and so they asked me whether I could produce regular studio tapes to send on.

 

I went to IMHOFS and bought myself an Akai 1721L, three Gerrard 401 turntables and a preamp and valve amp - and built a small studio and produced the tapes. Listeners hought I was on the ship but I wasn't. In fact some nights in the club in Soho, they couldn't understand how it was possible for me to broadcast and be in the club at the same time.

 

I found my 1967 diary a few weeks ago, and was pleased to see that I had kept both my weekly advert which was normally the top line, and the diaries with the charts which I always filed every week which formed the Caroline play list.

 

Forgive me blurring the "name" but as an ex-pirate the name is googleable and I'd prefer to preserve the illusion that I was always law abiding when at one time there was an arrest warrant under the newly introduced The Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967!

 

I of course couldn't be prosecuted because I didn't broadcast ..... I simply produced studio tapes. Oh dear .....I've given the game away!

 

You may be interested in the charts for that week ....!

 

Yesterday I made scampi and chips in the basket ....

 

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