Stevesan Posted September 26, 2005 #1 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Zuidy! It's just way too cute! Please! Please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted September 26, 2005 #2 Share Posted September 26, 2005 :) Funny you should make this post. I have wondered why folks always properly refer to Amsterdam as such; Rotterdam, Volendam etc etc Why is Zuiderdam (the same number of syllables) referred to as Zuidy? Doesn't really matter but I always notice it and wonder why people have renamed the vessel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted September 26, 2005 #3 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I hate that name "Zuidy". I have always used it's full name when I refer to the Zuiderdam - and for all other ships for that matter. Could be some people just want to save time writing by shortening the name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanwench Posted September 26, 2005 #4 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I agree. And in the same vein, I wish people would stop referring to Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport as FLL ... or the city of Fort Lauderdale as FLL. I guess it's those same people who want to save time by shortening the name. And while we're at it, what's with LOL --> do they want to save more time? Why not type out laugh out loud? And LMAO ... well, you get the drift. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches from georgia Posted September 26, 2005 #5 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I think using official abbreviations are fine and there is nothing wrong with commonly used 'internet language'. The internet is supposed to save time in all sorts of ways. FLL is the official abbreviation for Ft. Lauderdale Airport, the same as LAX and JFK. But, 'Zuidy' is another story! What a silly demeaning nickname used by just a few people, who claim to love the ship, too. It grates on my very last nerve ever time I read it! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanwench Posted September 26, 2005 #6 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I guess I just don't like the "official" airport abbreviations, as I think the significance of the airport's name is more important than shorthand used by the airline industry. If LOL and LMAO and the like are examples of 'Internet language' -- then isn't "Zuidy" also an example of Internet language? After all, LOL is a shortened version of laugh out loud. And Zuidy is a shortened version of Zuiderdam. Shortened, I would guess, for convenience by people posting on the Internet. I've sailed on the Zuiderdam twice and never heard the term Zuidy used by any of the passengers. [Oops, pax] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TidePrideGA Posted September 26, 2005 #7 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I don't think Zuidy has come into use on this board as a means of shortening its name for internet use - I think it's an affectionate endearment to a few people who have a particular place in their hearts for that particular ship. While I find it a little cutesy myself and wouldn't personally use it, I can't say I let it bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanwench Posted September 26, 2005 #8 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I don't think Zuidy has come into use on this board as a means of shortening its name for internet use - I think it's an affectionate endearment to a few people who have a particular place in their hearts for that particular ship. While I find it a little cutesy myself and wouldn't personally use it, I can't say I let it bother me. You know, you've hit the nail on the head! It is a term of endearment to some people who've sailed the Zuiderdam! "Zuidy" is being used in an affectionate way, and what this world needs is more affection and less contention. I'm with you ... I wouldn't use the term either, but I don't let it bother me. :) There are too many other things needing my energy -- why bother stressing over someone's use of a nickname? I think I'll find something more constructive to do with my time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted September 26, 2005 #9 Share Posted September 26, 2005 It reminds me of a particular brand of cat litter !:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyk47 Posted September 26, 2005 #10 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Let's see....if we come up with other shortened names we have: Amsty Massy Noory Oosty Prinsy Rotty Ryny Staty Veeny Voly Westy Zaany And of course.......Zuidy! Some of these are OK but many don't work at all....not very catchy. Probably doesn't help that I even find myself referring to the Oosterdam as the Odam. (NOTE: Substitution of "ie" for the "y" ending is authorized where it is more pleasing to the user. For instance, Westie appears better than Westy or Veenie instead of Veeny. Other versions are also acceptable but be cautioned.....Volenie is a mouth full.) :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanwench Posted September 26, 2005 #11 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Let's see....if we come up with other shortened names we have: Amsty Massy Noory Oosty Prinsy Rotty Ryny Staty Veeny Voly Westy Zaany And of course.......Zuidy! Some of these are OK but many don't work at all....not very catchy. Probably doesn't help that I even find myself referring to the Oosterdam as the Odam. (NOTE: Substitution of "ie" for the "y" ending is authorized where it is more pleasing to the user. For instance, Westie appears better than Westy or Veenie instead of Veeny. Other version are also acceptable but be cautioned.....Volenie is a mouth full.) :rolleyes: Now this is what I call creative use of time! Thanks for the laugh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candy Posted September 26, 2005 #12 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I don't think Zuidy has come into use on this board as a means of shortening its name for internet use - I think it's an affectionate endearment to a few people who have a particular place in their hearts for that particular ship. While I find it a little cutesy myself and wouldn't personally use it, I can't say I let it bother me.Actually, it's both. I love the ship and I enjoy posting on this board, although I don't always have the time to type out every word, and am grateful for your collective tolerance to my 'shorthand'. While I hope this thread is not specifically directed at me, I believe I may be the worst 'offender'. I consider myself an 'intermittent resident' of the ship I affectionately call 'Zuidy', and when I take the time to provide a prospective cruiser with information, I will continue to refer to her as such. At least I don't refer to her as 'Z'. Candice <-- will be boarding Holland America's motor ship Zuiderdam for the sixth time in Fort Lauderdale, Florida on November the twelfth, two thousand five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanwench Posted September 26, 2005 #13 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Way to go, Candy! ;) Said with a lot of class and a little irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy1 Posted September 26, 2005 #14 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Could it be that the Zuiderdam is considered to be a little more "glitzy" and a little less formal than the traditional HAL ships and therefore a few liberties can be taken with her name? You can call your dear Aunt Margaret "Maggie" and it is not disrespectful because you know and love her. But if you were writing about her, it would be best to use her proper name. There have been a few references to the O'dam or Oosty and the Westy, but all of the others seem to be referenced by their full name almost all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TidePrideGA Posted September 26, 2005 #15 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Way to go, Candy! ;) Said with a lot of class and a little irony. What she said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevNeal Posted September 26, 2005 #16 Share Posted September 26, 2005 My all time favorite is one that the Hotel Manager on the Oosterdam told me. He said that the crew calls her "the big O" ... until something bad happens. Then they call her: the "O-Dam" LOL :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted September 26, 2005 #17 Share Posted September 26, 2005 At least I don't refer to her as 'Z'. I sure hope not ! The 'Z' is the Zaandam. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyk47 Posted September 26, 2005 #18 Share Posted September 26, 2005 RevNeal - I'd never, ever call the Oosterdam the Big "O". :o I taught a course in college for three years called "Psychology of Women" and that conjures up a whole different meaning for me. (Don't ask how a guy taught that course.....let's just say I got through it somehow.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanwench Posted September 26, 2005 #19 Share Posted September 26, 2005 This has become the funniest thread since Dagwood set sail with Blondie! I wonder if they were on the "Big O"??? ;) What do you think, Randy??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrskmirolla Posted September 26, 2005 #20 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Candy you make me laugh and since it is Monday and I am at work I need a laugh. I myself have shortened her name to Zdam but as the post a while ago goes for Zaandam so from here on out I will call them by there right names but there are some letters I don't understand, like HMO and MO and a few more I keep hoping I would figure it out but as yet I haven't. Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyk47 Posted September 26, 2005 #21 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Apparently had pretty much the same conversation as RevNeal with the hotel manager when we were on the Oosterdam last year. I remember my wife getting a big smile when he mentioned the Big "O". This thread just reminded me that a few years ago, before the Oosterdam was launched, that our TA at the time was all excited that HAL was coming out with a new ship though she was wondering about the name. Her version? The Oysterdam. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted September 26, 2005 #22 Share Posted September 26, 2005 but there are some letters I don't understand, like HMO and MO and a few more I keep hoping I would figure it out but as yet I haven't. Kathy MO My opinion I think you might mean IMHO not HMO. HMO = horrible,bad,terrible health insurance :rolleyes: IMHO In my humble opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanwench Posted September 26, 2005 #23 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Gizmo: I like your interpretation of HMO! :D IMHO --> an expression often used by those whose O's are not so H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcc99 Posted September 26, 2005 #24 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I guess I hadn't really thought about it...but it does sound kinda cutesy, doesn't it? Kind of like a pet, or a cartoon character. I just started using it because I got tired of typing out "Zuiderdam" every time I used her name in the months before my cruise, and I couldn't call her "the Z" because of the aforementioned potential confusion with Zaandam. But if we're going to be sticklers for names-as-registered, that means spelling out every "Carnival", every "Norwegian", every "Princess", and perhaps most painfully, every "of the Seas". :rolleyes: And I discovered on the Zuiderdam that nicknames must be fairly common among the crew...one of the entertainers referred to the Rotterdam as "the Rott". I assumed it was affectionate, but I can't be sure! -Ben[jamin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted September 26, 2005 #25 Share Posted September 26, 2005 If one is looking for a shortened 'correct' reference to Zuiderdam, they may wish to use the one that HAL uses. Seeing as they named the ship, own the ship, operate the ship, I guess they are a legitimate authority on how to call the ship......they use ZUDM. If you don't wish to take the time to write out the full, proper name, perhaps this will be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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