Celebrity Cruises Swaps Formal Nights for Evening Chic

[bEwAbG]

Weddings that incorporate a church service. I also accidentally grabbed my tuxedo jacket when getting ready for church one one Sunday. (It was dark and my tux was right next to my blazers.) I didn't realize my error until we were coming home and I was in the sun.

 

So the answer to your question is not Never! The answer to, "When did anyone ever wear a tuxedo or formal gown to a church service?!?" is at least 4 1/2 tines in my case. The half is because I only had the jacket on one of the times.

 

I guess I was wrong to talk in absolutes, but the poster was referring to "Sunday go to meetin'" clothes, which to me denotes your run-of-the-mill Sunday service. Weddings are separate special events. As a rule, there was never a time when it was considered a requirement to put on tux or gown to go to a regular church service.

 

If anything, Sunday Best is more akin to Evening Chic. A lot of churches today are mainly smart casual, but they'll also take people in shorts and t-shirts. ;)

Edited November 14, 2015 by bEwAbG

[BosoxI]

Weddings that incorporate a church service. I also accidentally grabbed my tuxedo jacket when getting ready for church one one Sunday. (It was dark and my tux was right next to my blazers.) I didn't realize my error until we were coming home and I was in the sun.

 

So the answer to your question is not Never! The answer to, "When did anyone ever wear a tuxedo or formal gown to a church service?!?" is at least 4 1/2 tines in my case. The half is because I only had the jacket on one of the times.

 

Funny. I was on my way to work one day and to my horror, I had grabbed the wrong suit jacket. Mismatched sox are bad enough. Mismatched suits are intolerable.:p In today's world many would not notice the discrepancy, but I returned home quickly and made the change.

 

Actually, tuxes are not properly worn prior to 6PM. At least that's what I was told way back when. It also explains the tux brand After Six

[Squaletto]

They were "required" in that they were "expected" to be worn. And now they're not. Because times have changed.

 

I respectfully disagree.

By the fact Celebrity has allowed JEANS in the evening chic night, it has open a Pandora box. Soon they will allow flip flop and short pants, maybe even pajama bottom.

Jeans are for the garden or for go to TGI Friday or McDonalds not for an elegant dining room!!! It should not even be necessary to put a rule about it; this should be common sense.

I could have accepted they say jacket and tie was not anymore a requirement, but soon we will find people with sneakers, jeans and baseball caps.

So if Celebrity want to attract Carnival “standards” people it should also put the price at Carnival level!

[Charles4515]

Jeans are for the garden or for go to TGI Friday or McDonalds not for an elegant dining room!!! It should not even be necessary to put a rule about it; this should be common sense.

 

But here in the US jeans are not for the garden. Or only for TGI Friday or McDonalds.

[PORT ROYAL]

But here in the US jeans are not for the garden. Or only for TGI Friday or McDonalds.

 

Therefore, in the USA jeans are just for wearing inside one's home. :)

Not for leaving the house. :). Well said.

 

Who ever said some in the USA have a strange dress sence, should now retract it.

[Jobeth66]

I respectfully disagree.

By the fact Celebrity has allowed JEANS in the evening chic night, it has open a Pandora box. Soon they will allow flip flop and short pants, maybe even pajama bottom.

Jeans are for the garden or for go to TGI Friday or McDonalds not for an elegant dining room!!! It should not even be necessary to put a rule about it; this should be common sense.

I could have accepted they say jacket and tie was not anymore a requirement, but soon we will find people with sneakers, jeans and baseball caps.

So if Celebrity want to attract Carnival “standards” people it should also put the price at Carnival level!

 

And in the USA, there are many other places besides the garden, McDonald's & TGI Friday's where jeans are acceptable. In many high-end restaurants and chic clubs, a pair of designer jeans, a sparkly top, a smooth leather jacket & some dressy heels is the epitome of class.

 

And I think you're generalizing in Europe as well - we've been to some very nice restaurants in Italy, Paris, Germany & Ireland where a dressy jeans outfit was in no way out of place.

 

And I think many people look much more chic in a pair of nice jeans, a blazer or sparkly top, and a nice pair of shoes than they do in a wrinkled off-the-rack polyester suit with a $5 tie. But that's just me, and I realize not everyone thinks the same way.

 

What's important for this board is that Celebrity does as well, and their change reflects that. If you are afraid you will be forced to associate with the riff-raff and steerage passengers, you might want to consider other options.

 

(Oh, and FTR, I am unlikely to ever wear jeans on the ship, because I prefer to cruise the Caribbean where it's very warm, and a skirt and top is much more comfortable for me than jeans. Hubby will bring slacks and long-sleeve shirts, possibly a blazer.)

Edited November 14, 2015 by Jobeth66

[Fouremco]

As over 11.32% cruisers are American then it's obvious that there would be a 70% vote for casual dress. I travel to USA regularly to see my son and family and only take pants and tops. I have even worn Jeans when eating out, something I would never do in England. My smart clothes stay at home they are definitely not needed. Never mind we still have P&O and Cunard who I cannot see dropping their standards.

You may want to re-examine the chart and reconsider your comment. It says that 11.327 "Millions of Ocean Passengers" come from the US, not 11.327%.

Edited November 14, 2015 by Fouremco

[LA_Design]

You may want to re-examine the chart and reconsider your comment. It says that 11.327 "Millions of Ocean Passengers" come from the US, not 11.327%.

 

 

we need a 'like ' button on CC . this post is an example of a deserving cause.

 

BUT to the poster - please don't give too many factual posts - you are in the minority [emoji33]

[Charles4515]

Oh and another question to all.

 

Why does sailing in the Caribbean prevent someone from wearing jeans in the MDR? Isn't the MDR air conditioned? If so, why does the outdoor temperature in the Caribbean make the indoor temperature any different from when not sailing in the Caribbean?

 

Nothing. Some do wear jeans in the MDR. I have a pair of dark blue jeans with me since that is what I wear when I fly, but if I do wear them in the MDR it will be only the final evening if they want my bags in the hall early. As far as temperature, the classic Levi jeans of old tended to be made of a thick material but many modern jeans including Levi tend to be of lighter material. So in the hot humid Caribbean I wear shorts in the daytime and chino style cotton pants in the evening but I could wear some types of jeans.

Edited November 14, 2015 by Charles4515

[Andy]

Hi Everyone,

 

After a few hours away from the keyboard, I come home to find an utter mess on this thread. I just spent over 30 minutes removing posts by a few who feel they are going to have the last word, and disrupt our wonderful forum. Trust me, this nonsense is not going to continue.

 

I'm closing this thread for a short time, to allow the folks who insist on breaking our rules, time to settle down.

 

As soon I've completed reporting the offenders, and have some dinner, the thread will re-open. Thanks very much for your understanding.

[sparkopotamus]

 

That's what makes this whole thing unfathomable to me. We're talking about one venue - the MDR. Those who are bemoaning the loss of formal attire requirements didn't seem to have their vacations or even their meals ruined by seeing folks in non-formal wear whilst they were headed towards the MDR, or by seeing those folks out and about the ship before & after dinner, in the bars/casino/shops/etc.

 

Prior to our trip on the Silhouette last June we weren't 100% certain what the dress code would be for Luminae so we brought my husband's tux and a formal for me just to play it safe. It ended up Luminae was smart casual the entire voyage. Several other couples were in formal attire when the MDR observed "Formal Night", but no one in Luminae seemed to mind those of us who were "over-dressed." Truth be told it seemed the focus was the amazing food, ambiance, and knowing we were collectively enjoying a fabulous vacation. :)

[bEwAbG]

Prior to our trip on the Silhouette last June we weren't 100% certain what the dress code would be for Luminae so we brought my husband's tux and a formal for me just to play it safe. It ended up Luminae was smart casual the entire voyage. Several other couples were in formal attire when the MDR observed "Formal Night", but no one in Luminae seemed to mind those of us who were "over-dressed." Truth be told it seemed the focus was the amazing food, ambiance, and knowing we were collectively enjoying a fabulous vacation. :)

 

This is a good point. I experienced something similar when dining in Ocean Liners, except it wasn't Formal Night but there were a couple of tables of people in tuxes and gowns. I noted how nice they looked and then sat at my own table and enjoyed my own meal with my own company.

[MicCanberra]

Hi Everyone,

 

After a few hours away from the keyboard, I come home to find an utter mess on this thread. I just spent over 30 minutes removing posts by a few who feel they are going to have the last word, and disrupt our wonderful forum. Trust me, this nonsense is not going to continue.

 

I'm closing this thread for a short time, to allow the folks who insist on breaking our rules, time to settle down.

 

As soon I've completed reporting the offenders, and have some dinner, the thread will re-open. Thanks very much for your understanding.

 

Thanks for that and then reopening it again, I was enjoying most of the thread.:D

[MicCanberra]

This is a good point. I experienced something similar when dining in Ocean Liners, except it wasn't Formal Night but there were a couple of tables of people in tuxes and gowns. I noted how nice they looked and then sat at my own table and enjoyed my own meal with my own company.

 

My cruise friends and I often dress up on non-formal nights just to make it special or an occasion and get extra use out of taking the tux around the world.:D

[sparkopotamus]

My cruise friends and I often dress up on non-formal nights just to make it special or an occasion and get extra use out of taking the tux around the world.:D

 

Exactly. We enjoy dressing up, whether it's a designated Formal Night or not. If there's an extra special event in our lives, we won't hesitate to bring along formal wear. We have a choice, and we appreciate having that choice. By the same token, it's nice to know we can opt for coat/tie (husband) and LBD/elegant chic (me) on any given night and leave the true formal wear at home.

[gizmodog]

I am very happy with the new dress code

[MicCanberra]

I am very happy with the new dress code

 

I was a bit saddened by the decision as I fear the standards will drop further again, however, I am now over the disappointment and ready to cruise with the new 'evening chic' code.:D

[Adidas4fun]

My cruise friends and I often dress up on non-formal nights just to make it special or an occasion and get extra use out of taking the tux around the world.:D

 

And does the fact that nearby diners have not dressed up cause your evening to be less enjoyable?

[tiller]

Funny. I was on my way to work one day and to my horror, I had grabbed the wrong suit jacket. Mismatched sox are bad enough. Mismatched suits are intolerable.:p In today's world many would not notice the discrepancy, but I returned home quickly and made the change.

 

Actually, tuxes are not properly worn prior to 6PM. At least that's what I was told way back when. It also explains the tux brand After Six

 

I can't resist. From 30 Rock:

 

Liz Lemon: Why are you wearing a tux?

Jack: It's after six. What am I, a farmer?

[Porky55]

Can't contain myself - did the article by Celebrity not say that 'Evening Chic' dress code provides passengers with a choice of "tux and gown or designer jeans and flirty frock" - a much broader field of clothing choice than the previous formal dress code had??? An attempt by Celebrity to please all of the people all of the time ..... the word choice seems to have been lost in favour of personal opinions 🤔

[MicCanberra]

And does the fact that nearby diners have not dressed up cause your evening to be less enjoyable?

 

Not in these instances, however on previous formal nights, it was more special and had a great ambiance, if most people had made the effort to meet the dress code.:D

[MicCanberra]

I can't resist. From 30 Rock:

 

Liz Lemon: Why are you wearing a tux?

Jack: It's after six. What am I, a farmer?

 

LOl.:D

 

Can't contain myself - did the article by Celebrity not say that 'Evening Chic' dress code provides passengers with a choice of "tux and gown or designer jeans and flirty frock" - a much broader field of clothing choice than the previous formal dress code had??? An attempt by Celebrity to please all of the people all of the time ..... the word choice seems to have been lost in favour of personal opinions

 

Yes, more choice of clothing for people is a good thing, especially as a lot of people were not meeting the standards of formal evenings anyway. I just hope the standards do not drop even further.

[boatlover19]

I must be very lucky because my celebrity cruises have been filled with very stylish appropriately dressed passengers. I don't recall anyone in the MDR in shorts, t-shirts, or flip=flops. I found my fellow cruisers to be very smart and professional people who knew how to dress for a dining venue. I have faith that Celebrity cruisers will continue to look great on the ships. Relax a little, the MDR will be fine.

[LA_Design]

Called Celebrity UK this morning regarding linking dining arrangements with other friends. Whilst talking to the Lady I tentatively asked if the phones had been busier since the Chic announcement.

 

Her response intrigued me. She said that one or two people had called incensed st the change but most were just seeking clarification. The 'talk' in the office is that there is less adverse reaction to the chic than to the overnights causing itinerary changes in the Caribbean.

 

I tried to point out to SWMBO that there are only 2 chic nights so perhaps I would only need to pack 2 shirts to go with my new Dinner Suit.

 

Celebrity may have changed 3 formal nights to 2 x chic but I will be in Dinner Suit on 3 nights - I am reliably informed [emoji12]

Edited November 16, 2015 by LA_Design

[MicCanberra]

Called Celebrity UK this morning regarding linking dining arrangements with other friends. Whilst talking to the Lady I tentatively asked if the phones had been busier since the Chic announcement.

 

Her response intrigued me. She said that one or two people had called incensed st the change but most were just seeking clarification. The 'talk' in the office is that there is less adverse reaction to the chic than to the overnights causing itinerary changes in the Caribbean.

 

I tried to point out to SWMBO that there are only 2 chic nights so perhaps I would only need to pack 2 shirts to go with my new Dinner Suit.

 

Celebrity may have changed 3 formal nights to 2 x chic but I will be in Dinner Suit on 3 nights - I am reliably informed [emoji12]

 

well you know what will happen if you don't.;)