Is It Time For a 100% Smoke-Free Cruise?

[NIATPAC29]

If you cannot handle the smoke there are other forms of vacationing

[cruzeluver]

If you cannot handle the smoke there are other forms of vacationing

 

Too funny! As if the two have to go hand-in-hand. Think you have made your point (repeatedly).

 

I prefer to not be around smoking like a lot of folks and am able to fairly well avoid it.

 

The problem with a 100% non-smoking ship is the difficulty in booking groups. Inevitably a group of more than a few cabins will have at least one smoker in the bunch. Also charters, which cruise lines love would avoid a 100% smoke-free ship.

[NIATPAC29]

I personally feel like a lot of the cruisers way over dramatize the whole smoke thing on the ship. They seem to have a superior I don't smoke attitude

[SteveH2508]

I personally feel like a lot of the cruisers way over dramatize the whole smoke thing on the ship. They seem to have a superior I don't smoke attitude

 

The thought of sailing with a ship full of such people...:eek::rolleyes:

[pseudoware]

If you cannot handle the smoke there are other forms of vacationing

An I.Q. point for each pack in a carton. Fitting.

 

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[Velvetwater]

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2012/01/11282/marijuana-shown-be-less-damaging-lungs-tobacco

 

I have read very different and I guess there are conflicting reports (although don't smoke either) as the below is one of many articles:

 

 

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/cannabis-one-joint-equivalent-to-smoking-20-cigarettes-7819756.html

 

I guess its one of those issues medical experts still debate.

[ShawninFL]

I don't smoke, but I wouldn't be inclined to book a cruise which banned it. I tend to find individuals who are militantly anti smoking, also tend not drink alcohol or gamble. In my experience smokers seem to be much more interesting characters to hang with on a cruise.

[perditax]

I have read very different and I guess there are conflicting reports (although don't smoke either) as the below is one of many articles:

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/cannabis-one-joint-equivalent-to-smoking-20-cigarettes-7819756.html

 

 

 

I guess its one of those issues medical experts still debate.

 

 

A trick for separating the wheat from the chaff with science articles is to check whether the article links back to the actual study data.

 

For example, the article I linked provided a link back to the actual paper published in JAMA.

Edited November 21, 2015 by perditax

[nettrvlr]

No..smokers have rights as well. There's fresh air and plenty of space. I'll find other alternatives than cruising if it becomes 100%, spending hard-earned money elsewhere that's all inclusive.

[NIATPAC29]

i don't smoke, but i wouldn't be inclined to book a cruise which banned it. I tend to find individuals who are militantly anti smoking, also tend not drink alcohol or gamble. In my experience smokers seem to be much more interesting characters to hang with on a cruise.

well said-------------ditto

[NIATPAC29]

an i.q. Point for each pack in a carton. Fitting.

 

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the strong survive--- the weak complain

[nettrvlr]

An I.Q. point for each pack in a carton. Fitting.

 

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Then I must have 12.5 packs in the cartons I purchase:eek:

[nettrvlr]

I personally feel like a lot of the cruisers way over dramatize the whole smoke thing on the ship. They seem to have a superior I don't smoke attitude

 

Agree with that sentiment entirely. A lot of the money some cruisers use to cruise came from that "dastardly" plant in some way.

[nettrvlr]

well said-------------ditto

 

Your response is heartening. Thanks.

[iheartbda]

Agree with that sentiment entirely. A lot of the money some cruisers use to cruise came from that "dastardly" plant in some way.

Explain, please.:confused:

[nettrvlr]

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2012/01/11282/marijuana-shown-be-less-damaging-lungs-tobacco

 

Hi. Gotta respond to nonsense, sorry. My grandmother died of lung cancer in 1955..never smoked a day in her life, nor was she around any work related cause. Yes, smoking is something I want my kids and grandchildren to avoid. But it's a choice of those that currently do it, like it's a choice of those that have a right to complain about it (and some annoyingly so). Let those that smoke enjoy their pleasure, like I'm sure those that don't smoke enjoy theirs.

[nettrvlr]

Explain, please.:confused:

 

Hi Iheart...

 

You might or might not live in the southeast US. If you do, tobacco built that part of the country...if you don't, it still spread over most of the country..jobs in all sectors, passed down to families whose kids got educated and became employers themselves who employ people like you and me, who spend our money (smoker or not these days)..chances are you might not have a job if it hadn't happened. Just saying as an opinion.

[perditax]

Hi. Gotta respond to nonsense, sorry. My grandmother died of lung cancer in 1955..never smoked a day in her life, nor was she around any work related cause. Yes, smoking is something I want my kids and grandchildren to avoid. But it's a choice of those that currently do it, like it's a choice of those that have a right to complain about it (and some annoyingly so). Let those that smoke enjoy their pleasure, like I'm sure those that don't smoke enjoy theirs.

 

 

Did you mean to quote me? What nonsense are you talking about? Someone made a claim about marijuana being worse for your lungs than cigarettes, I seemed to recall that wasn't true, looked it up, found the scientific study I'd read and linked to it. No nonsense involved.

 

P.S., my grandmother also died of lung cancer. She did smoke. All we have proven with this anecdotal data is that there are different types of lung cancer, which is a pretty well-known fact. Google Andy Kaufman sometime.

Edited November 21, 2015 by perditax

[Quilter69]

As a person with asthma, I welcome serious smoking restrictions. Parts of the pool areas on Celebrity Constellation and Summit stink, since not only cigarettes but cigars are allowed there. We have not been on Princess in two years, but smoking was restricted to an enclosed area on our last couple of cruises with them. It made me happy. If only people could be convinced that perfume, powder and after shave/cologne should be worn so that people have to get close to a person to smell it, live would be wonderful. I had a trip to the ship/s doctor five days out on our April 2015 transatlantic strictly due to perfume in dining room and theater. I have just about given up on that issue, however.

[moniquet]

My Mother was allergic to some perfumes. The one called Poison made her nose bleed. However, I do think people who are seriously affected by smoke, nut allergies, perfume or whatever should consider alternative forms of holiday. It is their problem not the 3000 or so other passengers.

[pris993]

With so few people smoking these days, seems like a non issue to me.

 

Sometimes someone smokes on a balcony or in the casino or on the open deck but not that much of a problem from what I see.

 

I quit 21 years ago myself, glad I did. :D

[Velvetwater]

A trick for separating the wheat from the chaff with science articles is to check whether the article links back to the actual study data.

 

For example, the article I linked provided a link back to the actual paper published in JAMA.

 

You also have to question the location,date, who funded the research and origin of the article/medical paper. Not to open up a can of worms but I am less trusting of US medical papers due to the way the world of medicine operates across the pond in a financial sense.

 

I can post a link the article mentioned from the BLF medical paper (British Lung foundation) if it suits but the one I posted was the first article and a quick read if anyone wanted an overall view.

 

However this is a little off topic as weed is banned on ships and I believe those found with it are immediatly kicked off at the next port?

[perditax]

You also have to question the location,date, who funded the research and origin of the article/medical paper. Not to open up a can of worms but I am less trusting of US medical papers due to the way the world of medicine operates across the pond in a financial sense.

 

 

 

I can post a link the article mentioned from the BLF medical paper (British Lung foundation) if it suits but the one I posted was the first article and a quick read if anyone wanted an overall view.

 

 

 

However this is a little off topic as weed is banned on ships and I believe those found with it are immediatly kicked off at the next port?

 

 

Heh, you're saying corruption, politicization and bias in scientific research only occurs in the U.S.? Yeah, I'm out.

[Velvetwater]

Heh, you're saying corruption, politicization and bias in scientific research only occurs in the U.S.? Yeah, I'm out.

 

Your twisting my words because yours didn't work out.

 

I never said it didn't happen elsewhere I simply said the way medicine is ran over there doesn't quite fill me with confidence.

 

Although your 'disclaimer' in your signature makes realise you are a certain type of poster so I am going to move on.

 

Toodlepip :)