6666oz Posted January 11, 2016 #1 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Pass me the bucket. :eek: Cruise ships put thousands of people from a wide variety of origins into a confined space. Before you step on board, remember that this is the perfect breeding ground for infectious diseases, writes Peter Curson. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-08/curson-cruise-together-and-get-sick-together/7075930 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icat2000 Posted January 11, 2016 #2 Share Posted January 11, 2016 May as well add to the list, Melbourne Trains (or any large metropolitan train system), universities, schools, football matches, hospitals. You can pick bugs up anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysnapper Posted January 11, 2016 #3 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Supermarkets, handrails, lift buttons, money. the list goes on. May as well shoot yourself. Lol.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 11, 2016 #4 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Hospitals are the worse, there are more people sick there than anywhere else in Australia.:( It also has the highest death rate. Edited January 11, 2016 by MicCanberra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassamanda Posted January 11, 2016 #5 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Hospitals are the worse, there are more people sick there than anywhere else in Australia.:(It also has the highest death rate. And the biggest birth rate:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted January 11, 2016 #6 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Below is a quote from the article: "there are many ways infection can be spread. It could be that a ship's food storage and kitchen preparation were to blame or that a cook, food handler or waiter exhibited symptoms of gastrointestinal illness while continuing to work.It is also possible that crew members, recruited from all around the world, can on occasions act as possible reservoirs of disease." The spread of noro is caused principally by not washing hands before eating. I am surprised the author of the quoted article mentions "food storage and kitchen preparation" as a cause. Noro is quite different from food poisoning. I do not think the crew is a major cause of noro. As has been discussed on another thread recently, the crew must immediately stop work and report the fact that they are ill. They do not lose pay, but it is a disciplinary offence if they do not report by phone to the medical centre when they are ill. I think most of us on here know more about Noro than the author of the article.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 11, 2016 #7 Share Posted January 11, 2016 And the biggest birth rate:eek: True, I have heard that pregnancy is mainly sexually transmitted.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 11, 2016 #8 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Below is a quote from the article:"there are many ways infection can be spread. It could be that a ship's food storage and kitchen preparation were to blame or that a cook, food handler or waiter exhibited symptoms of gastrointestinal illness while continuing to work.It is also possible that crew members, recruited from all around the world, can on occasions act as possible reservoirs of disease." The spread of noro is caused principally by not washing hands before eating. I am surprised the author of the quoted article mentions "food storage and kitchen preparation" as a cause. Noro is quite different from food poisoning. I do not think the crew is a major cause of noro. As has been discussed on another thread recently, the crew must immediately stop work and report the fact that they are ill. They do not lose pay, but it is a disciplinary offence if they do not report by phone to the medical centre when they are ill. I think most of us on here know more about Noro than the author of the article.:) The hand washing before handling food whether in it's preparation, serving or consumption is the best way to stop the spread of disease. It really is unfair to blame the crew. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozscot01 Posted January 11, 2016 #9 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I was appalled that the crew were even mentioned. Let's face it, most illness on ships is brought on by passengers who don't admit to it on boarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esilef Posted January 11, 2016 #10 Share Posted January 11, 2016 True, I have heard that pregnancy is mainly sexually transmitted.;) And you can catch pregnancy on a cruise ship....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 11, 2016 #11 Share Posted January 11, 2016 And you can catch pregnancy on a cruise ship....... I must be immune because I haven't.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layn33 Posted January 11, 2016 #12 Share Posted January 11, 2016 We were on Explorer in December right after the big outbreak of Norovirus. We were very worried but followed the guidelines given by the cruiseline and didn't get sick at all. Mind you, we did avoid the buffet and ate most of our meals in the MDR to reduce the risk. Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 11, 2016 #13 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) We were on Explorer in December right after the big outbreak of Norovirus. We were very worried but followed the guidelines given by the cruiseline and didn't get sick at all. Mind you, we did avoid the buffet and ate most of our meals in the MDR to reduce the risk. Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk IMO, that is a wise choice.:D Edited January 11, 2016 by MicCanberra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esilef Posted January 11, 2016 #14 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I must be immune because I haven't.;) Have you thought about complaining to the cruise line about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newby58 Posted January 11, 2016 #15 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I am a health professional. Please don't flame. Norovirus is a faecally transmitted disease to start with. That means EVERYBODY has to sufficiently wash their hands after the bathroom. Being a virus, once it is introduced, it is very hard to contain. Aerosol, bodily fluids, contact on solid surfaces and in the food. Chlorine or bleach will kill it. The alcohol "Purcell" hand wash is only an adjunct. That said it helps. I will wash my hands often on my next cruise and use the alcohol hand wash at every opportunity. That's what I do. I know that I and my family may still get Nori. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newby58 Posted January 11, 2016 #16 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Noro Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 11, 2016 #17 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Have you thought about complaining to the cruise line about that? No much point in that unless they upgrade me to a Hump cabin.:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 11, 2016 #18 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I am a health professional. Please don't flame. Norovirus is a faecally transmitted disease to start with. That means EVERYBODY has to sufficiently wash their hands after the bathroom. Being a virus, once it is introduced, it is very hard to contain. Aerosol, bodily fluids, contact on solid surfaces and in the food. Chlorine or bleach will kill it. The alcohol "Purcell" hand wash is only an adjunct. That said it helps. I will wash my hands often on my next cruise and use the alcohol hand wash at every opportunity. That's what I do. I know that I and my family may still get Nori. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thanks for explaining it quite simply. :D I wash often and always just before eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esilef Posted January 11, 2016 #19 Share Posted January 11, 2016 No much point in that unless they upgrade me to a Hump cabin.:p Worth a try......especially if you sail on Wednesday "hump" day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysnapper Posted January 11, 2016 #20 Share Posted January 11, 2016 The last thing I do before I leave work is wash my hands and the very first thing I do when I walk in my door at home is head for the basin and wash my hands. I also am a health professional. It's such a simple task, this habit will reduce the risk of viral gastro infections, but not 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 11, 2016 #21 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Worth a try......especially if you sail on Wednesday "hump" day... LOL. yes, worth a try.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassamanda Posted January 11, 2016 #22 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I must be immune because I haven't.;) Yet :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted January 11, 2016 #23 Share Posted January 11, 2016 True, I have heard that pregnancy is mainly sexually transmitted.;) One of the first things they told sonny Jim at med school was "Life is a sexually transmitted terminal condition". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 12, 2016 #24 Share Posted January 12, 2016 One of the first things they told sonny Jim at med school was "Life is a sexually transmitted terminal condition". They probably said that death was fatal as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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