wallet stolen night before cruise boarding with no id??

[RuthlessBoss]

If you are right about "he's on Getaway" , we do not really need him to get back to us - except to tell HOW he was able to identify himself.

 

But, how do you know that he's on Getaway?

 

Have you not yet learned how to read old posts? They can be quite informative.

[abe3]

With respect to your non-US viewpoint the OP would have little trouble entering the US with the ID that he has.

 

 

 

Note I said 'little' trouble, not 'no' trouble. The complications for emergency entry are often characterized as impossible and insurmountable.

 

 

 

They are not. There are methods and procedures in place to enable US citizens to return home in times of personal trouble.

 

 

 

Granted, passports make things very convenient and without drama, but there are definitely other methods that can be used.

 

 

Just walk across the border. Millions do it every year without papers.

[hawkeyetlse]

Trillions, even.

[navybankerteacher]

Because he also started this thread.

 

Yes - he started this thread - with one post asking IF or HOW he might be able to board having lost his ID. He neve came back -- so again: how does anyone know if he is on the ship?

[hawkeyetlse]

No one knows. RuthlessBoss only said "I guess he got on the ship." I thought you wanted to know how people knew the OP was booked on the Getaway, since that information was not mentioned in this thread.

[navybankerteacher]

Hopefully he'll get back to us, he's on Getaway due back tomorrow. I guess he got on the ship.

 

"...he's on Getaway due back tomorrow." not "...he's booked on Getaway.".

[valleyvillage]

[IrieBajan54]

I cannot understand the stubbornness of some folks in regards to getting a passport. It's not that expensive, it's not that difficult, and it's excellent to have.

 

I don't understand it either. People donate a lot of money in the casino and on alcoholic drinks but find spending $110 for a 10 year passport a burden. :confused:

Edited March 20, 2016 by IrieBajan54

[RuthlessBoss]

Yes - he started this thread - with one post asking IF or HOW he might be able to board having lost his ID. He neve came back -- so again: how does anyone know if he is on the ship?

 

We don't know "literally", but on 3/2 at 4:13 p.m. he posted he and the wife were booked on Getaway for their 5th anniversary.

[Computer Nerd]

That is what we carry also. Everyone has me concerned about that choice though bc you can not fly with it. And if you missed your ship, I am assuming I would need to fly somewhere.

 

that would be preferable to swimming. ;)

[sparks1093]

I don't understand it either. People donate a lot of money in the casino and on alcoholic drinks but find spending $110 for a 10 year passport a burden. :confused:

 

Not really the thread for it but would you buy a can of beans if you knew you wouldn't be able to eat them before the expiration date? Would you buy a can of beans if you would never eat them at all? Some people don't buy passports because their travel plans don't include traveling by international air in the foreseeable future and they don't need it for the types of travel that they are able to do. As long as they are comfortable with the slight risk involved it's all good.

[StolidCruiser]

Not really the thread for it but would you buy a can of beans if you knew you wouldn't be able to eat them before the expiration date? Would you buy a can of beans if you would never eat them at all? Some people don't buy passports because their travel pllans don't include traveling by international air in the foreseeable future and they don't need it for the types of travel that they are able to do. As long as they are comfortable with the slight risk involved it's all good.

 

I would if there was a chance all my other food disappeared and the alternative would be to go hungry.

 

Some are comfortable with the risk of starving. Others are astute enough not to be.

[Pet Nit Noy]

I am very curious about your comments and how you define "little trouble"?

 

Last spring, my wallet was stolen two days before we were supposed to fly domestically. Within hours of the theft, and after having gotten a police report, I drove to the airport to speak with someone from TSA. I explained my situation including the fact that I would be traveling with my husband and that my husband had all the necessary documentation, and was told the following:

 

o Bring as many pieces of documentation with me as I can. Their definition of documentation was somewhat surprising. They were asking for copies of bills from utilities, or rent, or mortgage payments that had both my name on it and my address. The goal of these papers was to link me to my husband's address since he was flying with full documentation.

 

The TSA officials would consider the evidence I was presenting and would make a judgement call whether or not what I was offering was sufficient in of itself. If it was judged to be insufficient, there was a second and only slightly more difficult method.

 

I assume everyone reading this board has, at one time or another, had to deal with questions from a bank or credit card company asking things like "Which address from this list of four addresses is a previous address? or "What is your mother's maiden name? The TSA can access the same service. I was told I would be asked to step into a room where the TSA could link up with the service that generates random questions using in the information in various data bases. I would be asked several questions. Assuming I could answer them correctly, I'd be allowed to fly.

 

Perhaps because I went to the effort of going to the airport to deal with the problem before flight day and laying out my case, I was basically told I might have to go through a slower process than the regular method, but I would be able to get on the plane.

 

That's how I define "a little trouble" at least as it applies to flying domestically in the US.

 

FWIW, when I got home from the airport visit, I began assembling the necessary paperwork. In the process, I located my Trusted Traveler ID,, specifically my Global Entry/GOES card. In my stress over losing my license, I'd completely forgotten I still had that card since I never keep it in my wallet unless I'm actually traveling. The morning of the flight, I showed up at the security line with GOES card and my wad of bills. I showed my GOES card at the checkpoint and proceeded without needing any of the bills.

Edited March 20, 2016 by Pet Nit Noy

[danieldddj]

Last spring, my wallet was stolen two days before we were supposed to fly domestically. Within hours of the theft, and after having gotten a police report, I drove to the airport to speak with someone from TSA. I explained my situation including the fact that I would be traveling with my husband and that my husband had all the necessary documentation, and was told the following:

 

o Bring as many pieces of documentation with me as I can. Their definition of documentation was somewhat surprising. They were asking for copies of bills from utilities, or rent, or mortgage payments that had both my name on it and my address. The goal of these papers was to link me to my husband's address since he was flying with full documentation.

 

The TSA officials would consider the evidence I was presenting and would make a judgement call whether or not what I was offering was sufficient in of itself. If it was judged to be insufficient, there was a second and only slightly more difficult method.

 

I assume everyone reading this board has, at one time or another, had to deal with questions from a bank or credit card company asking things like "Which address from this list of four addresses is a previous address? or "What is your mother's maiden name? The TSA can access the same service. I was told I would be asked to step into a room where the TSA could link up with the service that generates random questions using in the information in various data bases. I would be asked several questions. Assuming I could answer them correctly, I'd be allowed to fly.

 

Perhaps because I went to the effort of going to the airport to deal with the problem before flight day and laying out my case, I was basically told I might have to go through a slower process than the regular method, but I would be able to get on the plane.

 

That's how I define "a little trouble" at least as it applies to flying domestically in the US.

 

FWIW, when I got home from the airport visit, I began assembling the necessary paperwork. In the process, I located my Trusted Traveler ID,, specifically my Global Entry/GOES card. In my stress over losing my license, I'd completely forgotten I still had that card since I never keep it in my wallet unless I'm actually traveling. The morning of the flight, I showed up at the security line with GOES card and my wad of bills. I showed my GOES card at the checkpoint and proceeded without needing any of the bills.

 

You can fly with no ID, you just go through additional screening

[Pet Nit Noy]

You can fly with no ID, you just go through additional screening

 

Yes. In fact, my post (#88) provided the specifics of that additional screening.

[Pet Nit Noy]

You are right - but the US government is NOT required to allow in anyone who just SAYS he is a US citizen but has no way of demonstrating it. You always want to have some way of at least starting the process of obtaining the means of getting the necessary documentation - that is why copies of documentation, carried separately, is helpful.

 

See post #88 for the specifics of documenting you are who you say you are even without copies of driver's license or Passport.

 

That said, we always travel with a copy of our Passport, although we don't bother with a copy of our DL. We've found this can be useful even without a catastrophe like loss or theft. Most typically, the passport copy is useful for getting a VAT refund.

 

If you spend enough money in stores where the tax is VAT, passport information is necessary to get the refund. The store fills out the form and they'll happily accept a copy of the passport for that purpose; they don't insist on the original.

[Simple_man]

My wallet was stolen an hour ago supposed to be boarding in the morning. The only documents I have are my social security card birth certificate marriage certificate and a color photocopy of my drivers license. I know the rules but any chance they let me slip by and get on the boat?

 

Thanks

 

I hope you were able to safely get on.

[Fido Chuckwagon]

I would if there was a chance all my other food disappeared and the alternative would be to go hungry.

 

Some are comfortable with the risk of starving. Others are astute enough not to be.

 

Lol, what do you think actually happens to an American without a passport who misses the boat home. Do you think they are really doomed to spend the rest of their days washing dishes in a restaurant in a Caribbean country, never to step foot in their homeland again?

[Barb Nahoumi]

Lol, what do you think actually happens to an American without a passport who misses the boat home. Do you think they are really doomed to spend the rest of their days washing dishes in a restaurant in a Caribbean country, never to step foot in their homeland again?

 

But, how much extra must they shell out?

[Computer Nerd]

Lol, what do you think actually happens to an American without a passport who misses the boat home. Do you think they are really doomed to spend the rest of their days washing dishes in a restaurant in a Caribbean country, never to step foot in their homeland again?

 

if they keep their documentation in their safe as they should, security removes the documentation from the safe and deliveries it to the port authorities. when the person finally shows up at the dock the port authorities give them their paperwork. security on board ship then clean out the cabin and document everything there and bring the items back to the port of embarkation.

[Fido Chuckwagon]

But, how much extra must they shell out?

 

Well, if the amount that they have to shell out is X, the chance of them missing the boat is Y, and add in an inconvenience factor of Z, if X*Y*Z is less than $110 then they have made a logical choice not to get a passport. Which is why everyone should stop mocking people who don't have passports as if they are idiots.

[jethrojam]

Well, if the amount that they have to shell out is X, the chance of them missing the boat is Y, and add in an inconvenience factor of Z, if X*Y*Z is less than $110 then they have made a logical choice not to get a passport. Which is why everyone should stop mocking people who don't have passports as if they are idiots.

 

 

The answer is far above 110. Which is why, if the shoe fits...

[Fido Chuckwagon]

The answer is far above 110. Which is why, if the shoe fits...

 

You have no idea if the answer is above 110 as it is different for every person.

[hawkeyetlse]

Well, if the amount that they have to shell out is X, the chance of them missing the boat is Y, and add in an inconvenience factor of Z, if X*Y*Z is less than $110 then they have made a logical choice not to get a passport.

How do you suggest that people quantify Y and Z logically? It seems to me that no matter how low Y is, it is still greater than zero. And since Z is approximately infinity… I agree with jethrojam's math.

[jethrojam]

It's 110. A drop in the bucket compared to any inside cabin. There are some reasons to not get the passport. The money should never be one if going on a cruise. If you stuck needing one certainly it will be more than 110 to get out of whatever situation you are in outside the country.