Which Rule(s)/Practice(s) would you like to see changed on your Carnival Cruise

[Donh44]

Are you joking? How is that even in the same category? Does someone drinking a beer affect you through osmosis? And yes, if you want to gamble then you are forced to be around smokers. How does gambling affect anyone except the person gambling? How does a chair hog affect your health? How does someone wearing shorts in the MDR directly affect you?

 

There is nothing else here that people complain about that directly affects anyone except smoking (in more than a superficial way anyway)

 

I think that you are being a bit unfair. The question that OP asked was what change you would like to see Carnival implement. Everyone has their own personal thing that they would like to change. I am sure that you also have a preference. Why would you jump on someone who is only expressing their opinion. I have preferences as well, but not going to mention them and get knocked down for mentioning them.

[CdrescherRBL152]

Unfortunately what I read in your statements is that your non smoking rights should outweigh the rights of smokers.

 

Pot meet kettle.

 

Now as to the purpose of this thread..yes it's a rule you would like to see changed. I get that. But it's also a debate on those proposed changes. As such, the smoking subject will always be a heated debate and one should have a thick skin to join in.

 

As the participants have turned this debate into a circular argument over who's rights are greater it would appear to be at an impasse. Let's try some others rules to discuss as the smoking rules have been argued ad nauseum.

 

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Back to my earlier post if you are doing something that interferes with someone else being able to enjoy themselves it should be you who stops the action. Using the logic that a smoker can smoke regardless of who it may impact. Would be the same if the people in the cabin next to you decided to play music as loud as they wanted it 5 am. Sorry you are tiring to sleep and their music is keeping you awake. But they have the right to listen to their music as they see fit.

 

 

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[klfrodo]

Back to my earlier post if you are doing something that interferes with someone else being able to enjoy themselves it should be you who stops the action.

 

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Then you agree that cruise ships should also be 'Scent Free". No colognes or perfumes should be worn.

[DnD_Cruisin]

Back to my earlier post if you are doing something that interferes with someone else being able to enjoy themselves it should be you who stops the action. Using the logic that a smoker can smoke regardless of who it may impact. Would be the same if the people in the cabin next to you decided to play music as loud as they wanted it 5 am. Sorry you are tiring to sleep and their music is keeping you awake. But they have the right to listen to their music as they see fit.

 

 

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The exception is ... loud music is against the rules.

 

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[lola61]

The rule where they make you get off the ship at the end of the ctuise :eek::D

[CdrescherRBL152]

The exception is ... loud music is against the rules.

 

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But again the original premise was to change the rule not to allow smoking in the casino. With the response that They can't do that it is our right to smoke. My point being if they can have a rule against playing loud music why not one against smoking in the casino.

 

 

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[Rh2458]

But again the original premise was to change the rule not to allow smoking in the casino. With the response that They can't do that it is our right to smoke. My point being if they can have a rule against playing loud music why not one against smoking in the casino.

 

 

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Whereas in a perfect world people would understand that cigarettes are killing them, as well as other around and would just stop, that's never going to happen due to the addictive nature of nicotine. Since we know it will never be completely banned inside the casino I think an excellent alternative would be to either have one night on the cruise smoke free in the casino, or maybe certain hours daily. What would be wrong with that compromise?

[DnD_Cruisin]

Whereas in a perfect world people would understand that cigarettes are killing them, as well as other around and would just stop, that's never going to happen due to the addictive nature of nicotine. Since we know it will never be completely banned inside the casino I think an excellent alternative would be to either have one night on the cruise smoke free in the casino, or maybe certain hours daily. What would be wrong with that compromise?

I personally think that compromise is acceptable.

 

There are drawbacks to this plan though...

 

As I understand it HAL does that today. But I also understand that the casino is dead on those nights from a pit boss I know. He left HAL because of the huge reduction in tips that occurred as a result. HAL also raised their rates to compensate for the losses which means even non gamblers (smoking or non smoking) pay more for those who want a non smoking casino.

 

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[ODECCIT]

This IS a thread for what changes we would like to see, correct? That's what I'd like to see. A non smoking ship.

 

I've been known to actually walk up a deck to avoid walking by the casino because I don't want to smell the smoke.

 

I bet if you polled the 80% who don't smoke, most of us would agree that we don't want to be around it and it negatively impacts our cruise experience. Not enough to stay home, but enough to be a negative.

 

Perhaps smokers don't realize how utterly obtrusive smoke is to a non smoker.

 

Sensitive to smoke doesn't mean "going to die", by the way.

 

When your "habit" enters MY body, it becomes my concern.

 

Carnival already had non smoking ship that they couldn't sell. It lasted just a year .

[hott_michelle2001]

Im with other post ra i wish smoming wasno ly allowed in designated outside areas. I can even go blow my

Money in the casino bc of all the smoke

[Computer Nerd]

Some how I missed a point here. The thread was about RULES YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGED! So where does the current rule have any impact. My post was about all of the smokers who every time someone suggest limiting smoking cries it is their right to smoke. And that everyone else should just shut up because nobodies rights but theirs matter.

 

 

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and yet you're still talking because in this case, your rights as a non-smoker don't matter. :p

[First and Ten]

Back to my earlier post if you are doing something that interferes with someone else being able to enjoy themselves it should be you who stops the action. Using the logic that a smoker can smoke regardless of who it may impact. Would be the same if the people in the cabin next to you decided to play music as loud as they wanted it 5 am. Sorry you are tiring to sleep and their music is keeping you awake. But they have the right to listen to their music as they see fit.

 

 

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Being fair, and not using ridiculous analogies, smoking has been banned on roughly 90-95% of the spaces on a ship. For the record, I am not a smoker. I think more than enough accommodations have been made for the non smoking population. In a way, I don't blame smokers for being sensitive. Cruiselines have taken away a good portion of the ship where they used to be able to smoke. Now some anti smokers want to take more away. That is just selfish and vindictive. You have 90-95% of the ship to enjoy smoke free, you really want to get greedy and try for more?

 

 

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[Rh2458]

Being fair, and not using ridiculous analogies, smoking has been banned on roughly 90-95% of the spaces on a ship. For the record, I am not a smoker. I think more than enough accommodations have been made for the non smoking population. In a way, I don't blame smokers for being sensitive. Cruiselines have taken away a good portion of the ship where they used to be able to smoke. Now some anti smokers want to take more away. That is just selfish and vindictive. You have 90-95% of the ship to enjoy smoke free, you really want to get greedy and try for more?

 

 

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I completely understand what you're saying and I agree that if they were to make the casino no smoking a few hours a day, or one day of the cruise they should open up a different area for the smokers as a replacement location. I truly don't understand why non-smokers can't enjoy the casino as well. To suggest the entire casino isn't a smoking area and there are areas in the casino for the non-smokers to be is like suggesting that the smoke from a cigarette knows what areas of the casino to stay in. That's just a ridiculous thought.

[SuiteTraveler]

Make the casino non-smoking - unfortunately, with fabrics in there - such as carpet, the smoke permits the area. It would be nice if Carnival would build an enclosed smoking lounge for smokers instead.

 

Forget the silly notion of only having the room cleaned once a day.

[First and Ten]

I often wondered why Carnival didn't enforce stricter penalties for alcohol smuggling....if you are caught smuggling alcohol, you will be removed from the ship. Watch how quickly alcohol smuggling is reduced if a persons vacation was at stake

 

 

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[DnD_Cruisin]

I often wondered why Carnival didn't enforce stricter penalties for alcohol smuggling....if you are caught smuggling alcohol, you will be removed from the ship. Watch how quickly alcohol smuggling is reduced if a persons vacation was at stake

 

 

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I never understood smuggling. The hassles of having to run back to the room to make a drink. Having to hoard juices etc back to the room so you have mixers.

 

I'm on vacation and don't want to have to exert that much energy to save a few bucks.

 

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[Computer Nerd]

I never understood smuggling. The hassles of having to run back to the room to make a drink. Having to hoard juices etc back to the room so you have mixers.

 

I'm on vacation and don't want to have to exert that much energy to save a few bucks.

 

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alcoholics saving a couple of bucks. ;)

[First and Ten]

alcoholics saving a couple of bucks. ;)

 

 

Don't forget the cheapskates trying to save a few bucks....if you have to "mooch" and save $100 on a cruise, you probably shouldn't be on a cruise

 

 

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[Domino D]

I often wondered why Carnival didn't enforce stricter penalties for alcohol smuggling....if you are caught smuggling alcohol, you will be removed from the ship. Watch how quickly alcohol smuggling is reduced if a persons vacation was at stake

 

 

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Fun and interesting thread. If like most public companies, Carnival will only make or change a policy for one of two reasons. Life Safety issue, or impact on bottom line. Occasionally, laws will force changes, but not so much in cruise industry.

 

The alcohol policies are deigned to control passengers carrying alcohol on board, not eliminate it. The rules and enforcement levels are designed to keep honest people from bringing alcohol, and catch enough smuggled booze to make the rule real. The cost to find all smugglers would likely be a significant increase in cost. Putting people off the cruise for bringing a bottle of booze on board is a terrible PR nightmare. Carnival does not want that coverage. the goal is to get as many people as possible to cruise. Putting passengers off for trying to bring alcohol on board will: 1. make some passengers find new vacation alternatives, and 2. it would call unwanted news reporting about the cost of drinks and the cheers policies. Both of which would make it less likely some people would want to try cruising.

 

FYI, I have worked with casinos as a consultant. There is a high correlation between serious gamblers and smoking. If the serious gamblers going on cruises didn't smoke, it would change in a hurry.

[BNBR]

I never understood smuggling. The hassles of having to run back to the room to make a drink. Having to hoard juices etc back to the room so you have mixers.

 

I'm on vacation and don't want to have to exert that much energy to save a few bucks.

 

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What if you like to drink on your balcony? Then you have to constantly leave the room to go find a bar.... Perspective :D

 

I don't smuggle alcohol as I enjoy the drink packages, but I don't see it being challenging. If I were to go that route, I'd get the big souvenir cup for the drink machines (not sure if Carnival has this) - fill it with coke and liquor. Not much of a hassle, and could save you $500 on the trip, so more than just a few bucks.

[First and Ten]

What if you like to drink on your balcony? Then you have to constantly leave the room to go find a bar.... Perspective :D

 

I don't smuggle alcohol as I enjoy the drink packages, but I don't see it being challenging. If I were to go that route, I'd get the big souvenir cup for the drink machines (not sure if Carnival has this) - fill it with coke and liquor. Not much of a hassle, and could save you $500 on the trip, so more than just a few bucks.

 

 

If you like to drink on your balcony....order a bottle from the BV package

 

 

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[DnD_Cruisin]

What if you like to drink on your balcony? Then you have to constantly leave the room to go find a bar.... Perspective :D

 

Point taken 😁

 

Most folks I know, including myself, aren't in their room much so I never considered that. Plus since smoking was banned on balconies I stick to OV or Interiors. Even less reason to hang out in a room.

 

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[CdrescherRBL152]

Fun and interesting thread. If like most public companies, Carnival will only make or change a policy for one of two reasons. Life Safety issue, or impact on bottom line. Occasionally, laws will force changes, but not so much in cruise industry.

 

 

 

The alcohol policies are deigned to control passengers carrying alcohol on board, not eliminate it. The rules and enforcement levels are designed to keep honest people from bringing alcohol, and catch enough smuggled booze to make the rule real. The cost to find all smugglers would likely be a significant increase in cost. Putting people off the cruise for bringing a bottle of booze on board is a terrible PR nightmare. Carnival does not want that coverage. the goal is to get as many people as possible to cruise. Putting passengers off for trying to bring alcohol on board will: 1. make some passengers find new vacation alternatives, and 2. it would call unwanted news reporting about the cost of drinks and the cheers policies. Both of which would make it less likely some people would want to try cruising.

 

 

 

FYI, I have worked with casinos as a consultant. There is a high correlation between serious gamblers and smoking. If the serious gamblers going on cruises didn't smoke, it would change in a hurry.

 

 

Thanks for confirming my point about smoking. That regardless of rather they should or rather they will change the rule. If they want to they can.

 

 

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[skywalkr2]

LOL I knew by the title of the thread it would end up as a smoking debate.

 

My opinion - everyone should just vape. Then there wouldn't be complaints.

[Computer Nerd]

LOL I knew by the title of the thread it would end up as a smoking debate.

 

My opinion - everyone should just vape. Then there wouldn't be complaints.

 

vaping is treated like smoking on carnival ships. no difference in policy.

 

trust me, someone will complain.....someone always complains. ;)

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