Rare eroller Posted October 14, 2016 #226 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I think the problem goes a bit deeper. MSC Cruises USA has its own executive team. They are here to market, handle PR, take sales, and manage the North American operation which is growing. I'm rather certain they find themselves in an awkward position, trying to manage North American expectations and run an operation but being held back by MSC hierarchy in Switzerland. It's never good being given a job but not the empowerment to actually do it well. It's along the same lines that they know what works and is successful for a ship operating out of Miami, but MSC in Europe blocks many of their attempts to change the onboard product to better suit its market. This I know for a fact. Both Sasso and Muskat come from very successful cruise industry backgrounds, having held leadership roles at the cruise industries leading brands. They know what they are doing, but in many respects their hands are tired and they are helpless. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted October 14, 2016 #227 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Have to agree with you there having seen it first hand, they brought a guy from Princess as the CD to Divina and then tied his hands behind his back leaving him unable to do his job properly. But they really do need to get their act together where releasing information is concerned, that is how you end up with one guy saying abandon ship and another saying bring $5 were going to a dance! Have you seen the latest picture in the renderings thread ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted October 14, 2016 #228 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Have you seen the latest picture in the renderings thread ? I have. SEASIDE is coming along nicely. I just love the unique design. I think she will be something special. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyaxn Posted October 14, 2016 #229 Share Posted October 14, 2016 What is a sacking Sent from my SM-G928T using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted October 14, 2016 #230 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Six welders have been dismissed from their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyaxn Posted October 14, 2016 #231 Share Posted October 14, 2016 So they are going to strike over 6 welders? Sent from my SM-G928T using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted October 14, 2016 #232 Share Posted October 14, 2016 We will have to wait and see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted October 14, 2016 #233 Share Posted October 14, 2016 That's Europe. Especially Italy, where they'll strike if someone sneezes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted October 14, 2016 #234 Share Posted October 14, 2016 One reason Europe has workers rights, hard fought for by others to stop employers victimising people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCMtnBoys Posted October 14, 2016 #235 Share Posted October 14, 2016 According to a Travel Weekly article yesterday, MSC has stated that Eastern Caribbean itineraries will now visit St Maarten, San Juan, and St Thomas until May 2018 when Ocean Cay is scheduled to open. Western Caribbean itineraries will visit Nassau instead of Ocean Cay with the remainder of the itinerary unchanged. No Nassau at all now on the initial Eastern itineraries? That would suit us just fine, I'd much rather visit St Thomas than Nassau. We booked knowing Nassau is on the itinerary, but don't really care much for Nassau. But we've booked for the ship, not the ports. So any ports will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyaxn Posted October 14, 2016 #236 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Nassau is already on the eastern so it stays Sent from my SM-G928T using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise_mojo Posted October 14, 2016 #237 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I loved him in STAR TREK! believe it or not..... I actually just bought a tshirt from off world designs that says Just That!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyed Posted October 15, 2016 #238 Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) It is strange they havent said anything to us that were booked on seaside with ocean cay on it.my cruise on the map of the cruise still shows ocean cay but in the itenerary says nassau 10_ 6. Sent from my SM-G928T using Forums mobile app I'm booked for 2/10/18 and the itinerary has been changed to reflect that we are not going to the private island....they substituted Nassau. The second week, they substituted Freeport for the island AND they also changed St. Thomas to St Maarten. :confused: Edited October 15, 2016 by suzyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted October 15, 2016 #239 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Mark and John ... Nassau is still on the December 23rd sailing! it was moved in May from Thursday to Sunday 24th and is now on Friday 29th. The itinerary posted on the roll call is still not yet set in stone so expect that it may well change again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted October 15, 2016 #240 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Yet more confusion and nothing official from MSC ... :rolleyes: http://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-Travel/MSC-Seaside-itinerary-tweaked-with-private-isle-opening-postponed#.WACuystcpAc.twitter cruise_mojo ... Yes I remember him in Dr Dolittle as a Dalek ... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyaxn Posted October 22, 2016 #241 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Recieved a e mail from MSC on the iternary change and ocean cay not opening.Just as i thought no obc Sent from my SM-G928T using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plucasana Posted October 22, 2016 #242 Share Posted October 22, 2016 wow. :-( !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted October 22, 2016 #243 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Still nothing here in the way of an e mail from them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted October 22, 2016 #244 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Hi Sid. I think they're holding some of the e-mails to send them out when the October date is extended again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyaxn Posted October 22, 2016 #245 Share Posted October 22, 2016 The e mails in the usa went out to all travel agents yesterday to give to there booked clients Sent from my SM-G928T using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted October 22, 2016 #246 Share Posted October 22, 2016 We are booked direct with MSC currently on the 23rd December sailing, looks like the Left hand has forgotten to tell the Right hand again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyaxn Posted October 22, 2016 #247 Share Posted October 22, 2016 You are right plus the uk seems like they do things different in the usa i hope it works out for you Sent from my SM-G928T using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted October 23, 2016 #248 Share Posted October 23, 2016 It is very rare that things ever gets done on time in the islands. Not just MSC- but ncl is also behind schedule with great stirrup cay. I wouldn't count on ocean cat opening anytime in 2018 and mid-2019 is even a stretch. With that being said I would never pick a cruise based on one port- especially an out island in the Bahamas. Even when ocean cay opens it wouldn't surprise me if it gets missed quite regularly due to sea conditions. Have you guys seen where this island is located? Google map it- right along side a Rift Valley smack in the middle of the channel. Looks nice and sandy though :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNJCruisers Posted October 23, 2016 #249 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Even when ocean cay opens it wouldn't surprise me if it gets missed quite regularly due to sea conditions. Besides hurricane type conditions, the only time a port is bypassed because of bad sea conditions is if tendering could not happen. Since Ocean Cay does not need tenders, why do you think it would possibly be missed regularly? Sent from my XT1254 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted October 23, 2016 #250 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I stand corrected - just looked up the specks and you are absolutely correct. MSC plans to build an entire pier to avoid tendering. Sweet! Ps- I will believe this when I see it - but if they pull it off kudos to MSC. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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