Year each HAL ship entered service

[bobpell]

The new Cruise Atlas does not state when the 14 HAL ships entered passenger service

Does anyone have those dates?

Thanks

Bob

[shrimp56]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland_America_Line#Current_fleet

[Essiesmom]

http://www.cruisedeckplans.com. Choose HAL and it will show a profile of each ship. EM

[catl331]

see bottom line of this table for dates including month and day:

https://www.hollandamerica.com/assets/news/FastFacts.pdf

Edited October 24, 2017 by catl331

[bobpell]

Thanks for the plethora of sites

Bob

[blizzardboy]

If you go to the HAL site, click ONBOARD, then OUR MID-SIZED SHIPS, a page with all the ships will show up. Ship Details will answer your question.

[catl331]

If you go to the HAL site, click ONBOARD, then OUR MID-SIZED SHIPS, a page with all the ships will show up. Ship Details will answer your question.

The pdf link in post #4 answered the question for all 14 ships, very concisely, with one click. Edited October 24, 2017 by catl331

[summersigh]

HOLLAND AMERICA LINE

Nieuw Amsterdam 86,000 2010 Signature/Vista

 

Eurodam 86,000 2008 Signature/Vista

 

Noordam 82,318 2006 Vista

 

Westerdam 81,811 2004 Vista

 

Oosterdam 81,769 2003 Vista

 

Zuiderdam 81,769 2002 Vista

Zaandam 61,396 2000 R class

 

Amsterdam 62,735 2000 R class

 

Volendam 60,906 1999 R class

 

Rotterdam 59,652 1997 R class

 

Veendam 55,758 1996 S class

 

Ryndam 55,819 1994 S class

 

Maasdam 55,575 1993 S class

 

Statendam 55,819 1993 S class

Prinsendam 37,983 1988

[catl331]

 

HOLLAND AMERICA LINE

Nieuw Amsterdam 86,000 2010 Signature/Vista

 

Eurodam 86,000 2008 Signature/Vista

 

Noordam 82,318 2006 Vista

 

Westerdam 81,811 2004 Vista

 

Oosterdam 81,769 2003 Vista

 

Zuiderdam 81,769 2002 Vista

Zaandam 61,396 2000 R class

 

Amsterdam 62,735 2000 R class

 

Volendam 60,906 1999 R class

 

Rotterdam 59,652 1997 R class

 

Veendam 55,758 1996 S class

 

Ryndam 55,819 1994 S class

 

Maasdam 55,575 1993 S class

 

Statendam 55,819 1993 S class

Prinsendam 37,983 1988

Ryndam and Statendam are no longer HAL ships. The Prinsendam was built in 1988 but first sailed for HAL on 6/3/2002. The pdf link in post #4 showed this info, along with the month and day of each maiden voyage. Edited October 24, 2017 by catl331

[JennysUncle]

What might be more important is the date of the most recent dry-dock for major refurbishment.

[blizzardboy]

The pdf link in post #4 answered the question for all 14 ships, very concisely, with one click.

When I was studying Engineering, it was apparent pretty quickly that a lot of what we were learning was summarized in books of tables, manuals, etc. We were learning how they developed the answers contained in those reference materials. By pointing out where to find the answer on HAL's site, if the OP chose to look, who knows how many other questions might be answered. "Teach 'em to fish"....

Did we get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? :)

[catl331]

By pointing out where to find the answer on HAL's site, if the OP chose to look, who knows how many other questions might be answered. "Teach 'em to fish".

Well, if they make a note of that link, I've just taught them how to find many answers about the ships besides the maiden voyage date ... just as someone once taught me about the link. Why teach someone the harder way to do something after someone has shown an easier way? :p

[blizzardboy]

BKR473759Why teach someone the harder way to do something after someone has shown an easier way? :p

I asked that question at school a hundred times after discovering those manuals and tables mentioned earlier.

I do encourage people to explore the HAL site. FAQ would seem an obvious place to start for a HAL newbie, yet many don't seem to have checked it out.

[MVPinBoynton]

Below is a list I put together for the sticky post about the ship of HAL.

 

[bobalink]

If you are still looking at airfares...

 

I booked our flights tonight. I check prices daily, and there was a HUGE drop in airline prices today.

 

When researching our air travel, the first thing I check is duration, because I am willing to pay a little extra for a shorter flight. Fortunately, for this trip, the shortest duration is also the best price! Winner!

 

Doing the happy dance! :cool:

[catl331]

If you are still looking at airfares...

 

I booked our flights tonight. I check prices daily, and there was a HUGE drop in airline prices today.

 

When researching our air travel, the first thing I check is duration, because I am willing to pay a little extra for a shorter flight. Fortunately, for this trip, the shortest duration is also the best price! Winner!

 

Doing the happy dance! :cool:

:confused: I think you meant to post this on a different thread.

[igraf]

With that data, one can see that the newer larger ships are also more crowded. I updated the data for the Vista class ships due to the recently added cabins up on top. The Vista ships used to all have ratios of 43.

 

igraf

 

 

 

________________Passengers ___Tonnage___Space Ratio (less is more crowded)

Koningsdam ________2,650______99,500_________37.5

 

Nieuw Amsterdam ___2,106______86,700_________41.2

Eurodam___________2,104______86,273_________41.0

 

Noordam___________1,924______82,318_________42.8

Westerdam_________1,916______82,348_________43.0

Oosterdam _________1,964______82,305_________41.9

Zuiderdam__________1,964______82,318_________41.9

 

Amsterdam _________1,380______62,735_________45.5

Zaandam ___________1,432 _____61,396_________42.9

Volendam ___________1,432 _____61,214_________42.7

Rotterdam___________1,404_____61,849 _________44.1

 

Veendam ___________1,350_____57,092__________42.3

Maasdam ___________1,258_____55,575 _________44.2

 

Prinsendam__________ 835_____37,983__________45.5

Edited October 26, 2017 by igraf

[catl331]

With that data, one can see that the newer larger ships are also more crowded. I updated the data for the Vista class ships due to the recently added cabins up on top. The Vista ships used to all have ratios of 43.

I know the numbers don't lie, but the K'dam felt less crowded to me on decks 2 and 3 because the aisles are wider in many spots. The promenade was definitely less crowded ... I think I never saw more than 6 people out there any time I was walking laps. With just a few wooden benches, it's no longer a popular area.

[MVPinBoynton]

With that data, one can see that the newer larger ships are also more crowded. I updated the data for the Vista class ships due to the recently added cabins up on top. The Vista ships used to all have ratios of 43.

 

igraf

 

 

 

________________Passengers ___Tonnage___Space Ratio (less is more crowded)

Koningsdam ________2,650______99,500_________37.5

 

Nieuw Amsterdam ___2,106______86,700_________41.2

Eurodam___________2,104______86,273_________41.0

 

Noordam___________1,924______82,318_________42.8

Westerdam_________1,916______82,348_________43.0

Oosterdam _________1,964______82,305_________41.9

Zuiderdam__________1,964______82,318_________41.9

 

Amsterdam _________1,380______62,735_________45.5

Zaandam ___________1,432 _____61,396_________42.9

Volendam ___________1,432 _____61,214_________42.7

Rotterdam___________1,404_____61,849 _________44.1

 

Veendam ___________1,350_____57,092__________42.3

Maasdam ___________1,258_____55,575 _________44.2

 

Prinsendam__________ 835_____37,983__________45.5

 

Thanks for that info, I will have to update my schedule.

[donaldsc]

Did you try typing "year hal ships entered service" into Google. Took me less than 1 minute to get the answer.

 

DON

[sammiedawg]

Space per passenger is the most important number but there are many inconsistencies on how that is calculated. I would not rely on Wikipedia or google to obtain accurate info, even on passenger capacity.

 

It is my observation that the larger the ship the more organized activities there are. More movies, shows and programs to keep crowds in a confined space.

 

If you are sailing a ship popular with families and kids the standard double occupancy ratio is meaningless. If there are lots of 3rd, 4th and 5th passengers occupying a cabin the meaningful ratio is the one for maximum passenger capacity. I’m referring to Disney, especially the newest ships Fantasy and Dream. You haven’t experienced crowding until you sail Fantasy, standard double occupancy is 2500 but maximum capacity is 4000. Voyages frequently have close to 4000 on board.

[catl331]

If you are sailing a ship popular with families and kids the standard double occupancy ratio is meaningless. If there are lots of 3rd, 4th and 5th passengers occupying a cabin the meaningful ratio is the one for maximum passenger capacity. I’m referring to Disney, especially the newest ships Fantasy and Dream. You haven’t experienced crowding until you sail Fantasy, standard double occupancy is 2500 but maximum capacity is 4000. Voyages frequently have close to 4000 on board.

Amen to that!! We went on the Dream in early Nov when most schools were in session figuring that would be a little better, but everywhere was crowded all the time. Even the supposed adult-only area was mobbed with teenagers. IIRC there were 3500 on board.

 

The only thing I liked better on DCL than HAL was cycling through the three MDRs with the same waiters. Never again!

[igraf]

I updated the data for the Vista class ships directly from the HAL ship information pages as I found older data elsewhere.

 

Other interesting metrics might be passengers per serving/seating capacity of the lido buffet or passengers per gangway. :-)

 

Actual passengers per cabin, as opposed to the assumed two per cabin, can certainly be a powerful factor. I would expect this to kick in during the summer and over the holidays. And also on any Disney cruise!!!

 

igraf

 

 

Space per passenger is the most important number but there are many inconsistencies on how that is calculated. I would not rely on Wikipedia or google to obtain accurate info, even on passenger capacity.

 

It is my observation that the larger the ship the more organized activities there are. More movies, shows and programs to keep crowds in a confined space.

 

If you are sailing a ship popular with families and kids the standard double occupancy ratio is meaningless. If there are lots of 3rd, 4th and 5th passengers occupying a cabin the meaningful ratio is the one for maximum passenger capacity. I’m referring to Disney, especially the newest ships Fantasy and Dream. You haven’t experienced crowding until you sail Fantasy, standard double occupancy is 2500 but maximum capacity is 4000. Voyages frequently have close to 4000 on board.

[Himself]

With that data, one can see that the newer larger ships are also more crowded. I updated the data for the Vista class ships due to the recently added cabins up on top. The Vista ships used to all have ratios of 43.

 

igraf

 

 

 

________________Passengers ___Tonnage___Space Ratio (less is more crowded)

Koningsdam ________2,650______99,500_________37.5

 

Nieuw Amsterdam ___2,106______86,700_________41.2

Eurodam___________2,104______86,273_________41.0

 

Noordam___________1,924______82,318_________42.8

Westerdam_________1,916______82,348_________43.0

Oosterdam _________1,964______82,305_________41.9

Zuiderdam__________1,964______82,318_________41.9

 

Amsterdam _________1,380______62,735_________45.5

Zaandam ___________1,432 _____61,396_________42.9

Volendam ___________1,432 _____61,214_________42.7

Rotterdam___________1,404_____61,849 _________44.1

 

Veendam ___________1,350_____57,092__________42.3

Maasdam ___________1,258_____55,575 _________44.2

 

 

Prinsendam__________ 835_____37,983__________45.5

 

 

 

 

Thank you for the information