TrpngBilly Posted March 31, 2018 #1 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Does the Escape have any passengers while moving from Miami to New York for the home port change? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romalley99 Posted March 31, 2018 #2 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Does the Escape have any passengers while moving from Miami to New York for the home port change? Just curious. No, this will be a crew only shuttle from Miami to NYC. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrpngBilly Posted March 31, 2018 Author #3 Share Posted March 31, 2018 No, this will be a crew only shuttle from Miami to NYC. Sent from my iPhone using Forums thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMESCC Posted March 31, 2018 #4 Share Posted March 31, 2018 No, this will be a crew only shuttle from Miami to NYC. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I'm actually surprised they didn't try to fill the ship up on a one way trip from FL to NYC. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romalley99 Posted March 31, 2018 #5 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I'm actually surprised they didn't try to fill the ship up on a one way trip from FL to NYC. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk The crew loves taking a well deserved break and enjoy the ship for themselves for a few days. Plus, I would not doubt thorough sanitization taking place as well before she reaches her new home. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoot88 Posted March 31, 2018 #6 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Cool,,, the ship will be ready for us to get on. An early boarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romalley99 Posted March 31, 2018 #7 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I'm actually surprised they didn't try to fill the ship up on a one way trip from FL to NYC. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk But let’s just say, if it were open for sale, I’d be there ;) Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMESCC Posted March 31, 2018 #8 Share Posted March 31, 2018 The crew loves taking a well deserved break and enjoy the ship for themselves for a few days. Plus, I would not doubt thorough sanitization taking place as well before she reaches her new home. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Well that is nice for the crew. I have no problem with that but knowing how these cruise lines operate I'm still surprised they didn't you and get revenue from the move. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted March 31, 2018 #9 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I'm actually surprised they didn't try to fill the ship up on a one way trip from FL to NYC. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk it is common for a ship to sail empty between US ports. Carnival does the same thing when it reposition a ship from FL to NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMESCC Posted March 31, 2018 #10 Share Posted March 31, 2018 But let’s just say, if it were open for sale, I’d be there ;) Sent from my iPhone using Forums See, exactly my point. Ha ha [emoji23] Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romalley99 Posted March 31, 2018 #11 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I’m also pretty sure they are not allowed to operate a 2 night cruise with passengers without stopping in a foreign port. It’s the law I believe. Simply not enough time to do so, as well. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smplybcause Posted March 31, 2018 #12 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Foreign flag ships are not allowed to sail between two US ports with passengers without a stop in a distant foreign port. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budget Queen Posted March 31, 2018 #13 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Seems like a loss of revenue in my opinion. Wouldn't be hard to add a Nassau stop- at the least. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romalley99 Posted March 31, 2018 #14 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Seems like a loss of revenue in my opinion. Wouldn't be hard to add a Nassau stop- at the least. :) Would not be possible in the time allotted Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budget Queen Posted March 31, 2018 #15 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Would not be possible in the time allotted Sent from my iPhone using Forums At this point = correct. BUT, planning for the move started way before it wasn't "possible". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMESCC Posted March 31, 2018 #16 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Foreign flag ships are not allowed to sail between two US ports with passengers without a stop in a distant foreign port. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk That is a really, really dumb rule unless someone can tell me a good reason it's in place? It sounds really stupid. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand and Seas Posted March 31, 2018 #17 Share Posted March 31, 2018 The last cruise in Miami is only 6 days. Did they think a 8 day repositioning cruise starting in Miami ending in New York wouldn't sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinIllinois Posted April 1, 2018 #18 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Some silly comments here. Do you think that NCL doesn't want to maximize profits every single day if they can? Laws are laws and that's just the way it is. NCL, Carnival, RCCL, all abide by those laws and take advantage of not having passengers onboard by doing extra cleaning, maintenance and THANKFULLY, a few extra hours off for the crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyFred Posted April 1, 2018 #19 Share Posted April 1, 2018 That is a really, really dumb rule unless someone can tell me a good reason it's in place? It sounds really stupid. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk The Jones Act. Thats the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMESCC Posted April 1, 2018 #20 Share Posted April 1, 2018 The Jones Act. Thats the reason.Oh that explains everything. What is the reasoning behind that and was it really intended for cruise ships? Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted April 1, 2018 #21 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Seems like a loss of revenue in my opinion. Wouldn't be hard to add a Nassau stop- at the least. :) nassau is not a distant foreign port. the only distant foreign port that count for these laws is the ABC islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroo777 Posted April 1, 2018 #22 Share Posted April 1, 2018 I’m surprised this wasn’t an 8 day repositioning cruise: Miami to NYC. Wouldn’t be surprised if they do some work, like convert Bayamo to Ocean Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip2cruise Posted April 1, 2018 #23 Share Posted April 1, 2018 The Jones Act. Thats the reason.Jones Act deals with cargo Pvsa deals with Passengers https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/23/~/the-jones-act-%26-the-passenger-vessel-services-act The Passenger Vessel Services Act, (PVSA), 46 U.S.C. § 55103 (b), places the same restrictions on the coastwise movement of people. It is this act that prohibits commercial vessels such as cruise ships from allowing passengers to board at one U.S. port and debark at another U.S. port. The applicable CBP regulation regarding penalties for violating the PVSA is found in 19 CFR § 4.80(b)(2), which provides that "[t]he penalty imposed for the unlawful transportation of passengers between coastwise points is $300 for each passenger so transported and landed as adjusted by the Federal Civil Penalties Inflation Adjustment Act of 1990), see Federal Register. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMESCC Posted April 1, 2018 #24 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Jones Act deals with cargo Pvsa deals with Passengers https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/23/~/the-jones-act-%26-the-passenger-vessel-services-act The Passenger Vessel Services Act, (PVSA), 46 U.S.C. § 55103 (b), places the same restrictions on the coastwise movement of people. It is this act that prohibits commercial vessels such as cruise ships from allowing passengers to board at one U.S. port and debark at another U.S. port. The applicable CBP regulation regarding penalties for violating the PVSA is found in 19 CFR § 4.80(b)(2), which provides that "[t]he penalty imposed for the unlawful transportation of passengers between coastwise points is $300 for each passenger so transported and landed as adjusted by the Federal Civil Penalties Inflation Adjustment Act of 1990), see Federal Register. Makes zero sense but it's a law. A dumb law is still a law. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted April 1, 2018 #25 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Makes zero sense but it's a law. A dumb law is still a law. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk the only way around this law is to build and register a cruise ship here in the US similar to what NCL did with the Pride of America ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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