MomtherOfDragons Posted April 8, 2018 #1 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Hello, I haven’t seen anything on this (may not be looking in the right spot, sorry)... We are just off the Valor and this is the first time we’ve noticed life guards hovering near the pools. We noticed immediatly, so I don’t know if they were just easier to spot this time or if it’s new. Did something happen since November to make them impliment this, or is Carnival just trying to do a great job preventing something bad from happening? Either way, very glad to see watchful lifeguards with all those kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkneern Posted April 8, 2018 #2 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Have never seen a life guard on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanmarcosman Posted April 8, 2018 #3 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Hello, I haven’t seen anything on this (may not be looking in the right spot, sorry)... We are just off the Valor and this is the first time we’ve noticed life guards hovering near the pools. We noticed immediatly, so I don’t know if they were just easier to spot this time or if it’s new. Did something happen since November to make them impliment this, or is Carnival just trying to do a great job preventing something bad from happening? Either way, very glad to see watchful lifeguards with all those kids How do you know they are lifeguards? They could be supervisors without being trained in life saving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomtherOfDragons Posted April 8, 2018 Author #4 Share Posted April 8, 2018 They had whistles and first aid kits and were standing on the edge of the water the entire time the pools didnt have a net I simply assumed they were lifeguards... We didnt see them on our cruise in November, so that’s why they stood out so much to me this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter1234 Posted April 8, 2018 #5 Share Posted April 8, 2018 We were on the Breeze last month and there were lifeguards at the pools. We know they were lifeguards because one was ready in jump in after our boy...he thought he was in distress. We were sitting right along the pool and explained that he is just very good at staying under water for a long time. We all chuckled but it was nice to see. (Though I'm hoping it won't replace parental supervision by the pool...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepeka Posted April 8, 2018 #6 Share Posted April 8, 2018 We noticed them on the Conquest last month as well. They were wearing innocuous white Carnival t-shirts and seemed very watchful of people in and around the pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanmarcosman Posted April 8, 2018 #7 Share Posted April 8, 2018 They had whistles and first aid kits and were standing on the edge of the water the entire time the pools didnt have a net I simply assumed they were lifeguards... We didnt see them on our cruise in November, so that’s why they stood out so much to me this time. Thanks for clarifying, good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmarnnurse Posted April 8, 2018 #8 Share Posted April 8, 2018 They may be starting to have lifeguards, as I know they did on RCCL ships. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyntil8ing Posted April 8, 2018 #9 Share Posted April 8, 2018 They are not certified life guards. They are pool monitors. Last August, we were on Vista for a B2B. While we were waiting for customs, we talked to the contractor who was getting the program going. I specifically asked if they were certified, because the first week, I saw them doing things such as taking photos for people and chatting with each other. She told me they were monitors, not lifeguards. Progress, yes certainly, but parents should still be vigilant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanmarcosman Posted April 8, 2018 #10 Share Posted April 8, 2018 They are not certified life guards. They are pool monitors. Last August, we were on Vista for a B2B. While we were waiting for customs, we talked to the contractor who was getting the program going. I specifically asked if they were certified, because the first week, I saw them doing things such as taking photos for people and chatting with each other. She told me they were monitors, not lifeguards. Progress, yes certainly, but parents should still be vigilant. This is insightful information, I'm glad you were there and spoke up and asked the contractor. While they are posing for selfies and such maybe they could put time tickets on the lounge chairs too ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djptcp Posted April 8, 2018 #11 Share Posted April 8, 2018 DH and I just sailed on the Miracle 2 weeks ago and we noticed lifeguards for the first time ever on Carnival. They circled the pool constantly - we were sitting on the starboard side of the ship reading and smoking. Didn't look for them at the other pools, but assume the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD5ZA Posted April 8, 2018 #12 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Help! Help! ...... Sorry, I'm just a monitor to tell you someone's drowning, not a lifeguard. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomtherOfDragons Posted April 8, 2018 Author #13 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Thats excellent! I was worried it was one of those “bad things happened, changed our policy” situations, sounds like it may have been a preventstive measure rather than reactive! Good for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipbound2 Posted April 8, 2018 #14 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Have never seen a life guard on the ship. I've been on thirty seven cruises and I have never seen a lifeguard on a CCL ship. I know they're lifeguards on Disney ships. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted April 8, 2018 #15 Share Posted April 8, 2018 It is more likely they are watching for diapered babies in the pool after complaints and health violations inspections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splintz Posted April 8, 2018 #16 Share Posted April 8, 2018 On the pride 2 weeks ago they had them. They were at every pool. They monitored the pool and seemed on top of it. Might not be certified lifeguards but at least there is someone watching the pool. Several times I saw them talk to kids and have them stop running around the pool and to stop jumping into the pool. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise love Posted April 8, 2018 #17 Share Posted April 8, 2018 On the pride 2 weeks ago they had them. They were at every pool. They monitored the pool and seemed on top of it. Might not be certified lifeguards but at least there is someone watching the pool. Several times I saw them talk to kids and have them stop running around the pool and to stop jumping into the pool. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I can’t remember if it was on a carnival ship but a child drowned on a cruise ship in Australia and it was a recommendation my by the corinor at the inquest that children’s swim vests be available poolside . I have been aboard and seen the vests and have seen pool monitors standing close to the pools or in the middle of the pools if there is some kind of walkway This was on cruise out of Australia Cruise love Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkneern Posted April 8, 2018 #18 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I've been on thirty seven cruises and I have never seen a lifeguard on a CCL ship. I know they're lifeguards on Disney ships. Gary 26 for me on Carnival and many on other lines. Just on Fascination and there were no lifeguards/pool monitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nealstuber Posted April 8, 2018 #19 Share Posted April 8, 2018 They may be starting to have lifeguards, as I know they did on RCCL ships. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Yeah they’ve been on RCCL for a while now, our last two cruises. While I applaud the safety move, and they did a great job keeping kids out of the Solarium pool, it was kind of a zone buster. DW and I always head straight for the pool on embarking. Its nice to have the pool to ourselves or maybe a couple of other couples and that’s about the only time it can happen (except perhaps on a port day). So just the two of us under the walkway bridge in the Solarium. Lifeguard just staring at us like we’re gonna steal something. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naxer Posted April 8, 2018 #20 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I saw them on the Conquest last November. There was one at each pool, and it seemed to me they did a one hour shift before rotating to another pool. It's good to see. Whether or not they are lifeguards, it's nice to know there's someone paying attention. It struck me as a boring job, but they seemed to stay cheerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieCharlotte Posted April 8, 2018 #21 Share Posted April 8, 2018 They were by the pool on the Freedom, but I only noticed them in the afternoons. They were telling kids not to jump in the pool. They were watching the pool, but not carefully like the well-trained lifeguards at our local pool, who are not allowed to have conversations on duty. I would call them monitors and not lifeguards, but obviously they wouldn't ignore a struggling child. There are also plenty of lifejackets available by the pool, which I don't remember from our very first cruises a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wemjam Posted April 8, 2018 #22 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I am glad to see that they are starting to implement someone watching over things and keeping people safe, and the pool area somewhat under control (running kids etc.). I am sure that they are implementing just "monitors" for a couple reasons. First, cost. Trained life guards are going to be a bigger expense then just general staff watching over things. Second, liability. If they don't institute them as trained life guards, but monitors, then it is still on the individual/parents to take responsibility for their own actions/children. And obviously if something goes wrong they may step in and help, but it would be no different than the average person helping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txmom11 Posted April 8, 2018 #23 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I am glad to see that they are starting to implement someone watching over things and keeping people safe, and the pool area somewhat under control (running kids etc.). I am sure that they are implementing just "monitors" for a couple reasons. First, cost. Trained life guards are going to be a bigger expense then just general staff watching over things. Second, liability. If they don't institute them as trained life guards, but monitors, then it is still on the individual/parents to take responsibility for their own actions/children. And obviously if something goes wrong they may step in and help, but it would be no different than the average person helping. I assumed it was a liability issue as well. Good to know. Parents, as always, need to be vigilant, but at least there is an extra set of eyes watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWolver672 Posted April 9, 2018 #24 Share Posted April 9, 2018 They are not certified life guards. They are pool monitors. Last August, we were on Vista for a B2B. While we were waiting for customs, we talked to the contractor who was getting the program going. I specifically asked if they were certified, because the first week, I saw them doing things such as taking photos for people and chatting with each other. She told me they were monitors, not lifeguards. Progress, yes certainly, but parents should still be vigilant. Honestly, they don't have to be certified to save a life. The pools aren't that deep so you don't even have to know how to swim. Just jump in and pull the person above the water. The best part is that there is now someone watching for someone that is in trouble. Too many parents let their kids run freely without watching them. At least now somebody is. And it sounds like they are keeping kids from jumping in and out which is irritating if you're in the pool and they land next to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nealstuber Posted April 9, 2018 #25 Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) I am glad to see that they are starting to implement someone watching over things and keeping people safe, and the pool area somewhat under control (running kids etc.). I am sure that they are implementing just "monitors" for a couple reasons. First, cost. Trained life guards are going to be a bigger expense then just general staff watching over things. Second, liability. If they don't institute them as trained life guards, but monitors, then it is still on the individual/parents to take responsibility for their own actions/children. And obviously if something goes wrong they may step in and help, but it would be no different than the average person helping. Certified and trained by whom? Sure, probably to the American Red Cross, but I doubt any cruiseline puts anybody in any job without so rudimentary training specific to that job. It’s not like they need to be able to to do the side stroke for 200 hundred yards or be taught how to approach a drowning victim without getting drowned themselves. Their primary duty is obviously to enforce pool specific rules to keep people from getting hurt in the first place. Secondly, be able to jump in and help someone who’s struggling a maximum of 10 feet to the nearest side. It wouldn’t surprise me if they get some form of CPR training, but with security and the ships doctor near by they may just be trained to call (or radio) for help. Haven’t seen them on Carnival ships yet, but on RCCL they were wearing shirts that said lifeguard and they had a lifesaving foam float wrapped around their waist which I assume they are trained to use. I doubt the bar tenders are “certified” to the same standards as US bar tenders - that does not mean they are not bar tenders. Same with the ships’ doctors. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Edited April 9, 2018 by nealstuber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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