royzer76 Posted November 16, 2018 #726 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Crazy planning mom said: It is nice. Definitely check out the glass blowing shop and pottery shop. https://www.bermuda-attractions.com/bermuda_000027.htm. Aaaah so it's Bermuda. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirlancelot Posted November 16, 2018 #727 Share Posted November 16, 2018 European itineraries of both Independence and Anthem of the Seas 2020 Independence of the seas Transatlantic: Fort Lauderdale, At Sea, Labadee, San Juan, Charlotte Amalie, Basseterre, Philipsburg, 8 Days at Sea, Southampton (2/5-17/5) Southampton, At Sea, Stavanger, Geiranger, Ålesund, Bergen, At Sea, Southampton (17/5-24/5) Southampton, At Sea, Cork, At Sea, Southampton (24/5-28/5) Southampton, Zeebrugge, Le Havre, Southampton (28/5-31/5) Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Málaga, At Sea, Cannes, Barcelona, Valencia, At Sea, Gibraltar, At Sea, At Sea, Southampton (31/5-12/6) Southampton, At Sea, Bergen, Geiranger, Ålesund, Stavanger, Oslo, Kristiansand, At Sea, Southampton (12/6-21/6) Southampton, At Sea, Vigo, Lisbon, At Sea, Agadir, Arrecife, Las Palmas, Funchal, At Sea, La Coruña, At Sea, Southampton (21/6-3/7) Southampton, At Sea, Oslo, Copenhagen (overnight), At Sea, Tallin, St Petersburg (2 overnights), Helsinki, At Sea, Skagen, At Sea, Southampton (3/7-17/7) Southampton, At Sea, Bergen, Olden, Ålesund, Flam, Stavanger, At Sea, Southampton (17/7-25/7) Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Gibraltar, At Sea, Villefranche, La Spezia, Civitavecchia, Naples, Cagliari, At Sea, Cádiz, At Sea, At Sea, Southampton (25/7-8/8) Southampton, At Sea, Oslo, Copenhagen (overnight), At Sea, Tallin, St Petersburg (2 overnights), Helsinki, At Sea, Skagen, At Sea, Southampton (8/8-22/8) Southampton, Le Havre, At Sea, Gijón, At Sea, Lisbon, At Sea, Bilbao, At Sea, Southampton (22/8-31/8) Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Gibraltar, Cartagena, Valencia, Barcelona, Villefrance, At Sea, Málaga, At Sea, At Sea, Southampton (31/8-12/9) Southampton, At Sea, Vigo, Lisbon, At Sea, Agadir, Arrecife, Las Palmas, Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Funchal, At Sea, La Coruña, At Sea, Le Havre, Southampton (12/9-26/9) Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Gibraltar, At Sea, Ajaccio, Civitavecchia, Livorno, Toulon, Barcelona, At Sea, Lisbon, Vigo, At Sea, Southampton (26/9-10/10) Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Ponta Delgada, At Sea, Funchal, Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Las Palmas, Arrecife, At Sea, Lisbon, Vigo, At Sea, At Sea, Southampton (10/10-24/10) Southampton, Rotterdam, Zeebrugge, Le Havre, Southampton (24/10-28/10) Southampton, Le Havre (overnight), Southampton (28/10-31/10) Transatlantic: Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Ponta Delgada, 5 Days At Sea, Basseterre, Charlotte Amalie, San Juan, Labadee, At Sea, Fort Lauderdale (31/10-14/11) Anthem of the seas Transatlantic: Cape Liberty, At Sea, Halifax, At Sea, At Sea, At Sea, Ponta Delgada, At Sea, At Sea, Cork, At Sea, Le Havre, Southampton (12/4-24/4) Southampton, At Sea, Lisbon (overnight), Vigo, La Coruña, Bilbao, At Sea, Southampton (15/5-23/5) Southampton, Le Havre, At Sea, Bilbao, Gijón, At Sea, Southampton (23/5-29/5) Southampton, Zeebrugge, At Sea, Oslo, At Sea, Hamburg, At Sea, Le Havre, Southampton (29/5-6/6) Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Gibraltar, At Sea, Livorno, Civitavecchia, Naples, At Sea, At Sea, Malaga, Lisbon, At Sea, At Sea, Southampton (6/6-20/6) Southampton, At Sea, Lisbon (overnight), Vigo, La Coruña, Bilbao, At Sea, Southampton (20/6-28/6) Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Gibraltar, Cartagena, Valencia, Barcelona, Villefrance, At Sea, Málaga, Cádiz, At Sea, At Sea, Southampton (28/6-11/7) Southampton, At Sea, Gijón, Bilbao, La Coruña, At Sea, Le Havre (overnight), Southampton (11/7-19/7) Southampton, At Sea, Vigo, Lisbon, Cádiz, At Sea, Arrecife, Las Palmas, Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Santa Cruz de Palma, Funchal, At Sea, La Coruña, At Sea, Southampton (19/7-2/8) Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Gibraltar, Cartagena, Valencia, Palma de Mallorca, Barcelona, Villefrance, At Sea, Cádiz (overnight), At Sea, At Sea, Southampton (2/8-16/8) Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Gibraltar, At Sea, Marseille, Livorno, Civitavecchia, Genoa, At Sea, Malaga, Lisbon, At Sea, At Sea, Southampton (16/8-30/8) Southampton, At Sea, Bilbao, La Coruña, Vigo, At Sea, Le Havre, Southampton (30/8-6/9) Southampton, At Sea, Vigo, Lisbon, Cádiz, At Sea, Arrecife, Las Palmas, Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Santa Cruz de Palma, Funchal, At Sea, La Coruña, At Sea, Southampton (6/9-20/9) Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Gibraltar, At Sea, Cannes, Barcelona, Valencia, At Sea, Malaga, Lisbon (overnight), Vigo, At Sea, Southampton (20/9-4/10) Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Malaga, At Sea, Villefranche, La Spezia, Civitavecchia, Cagliari, At Sea, Gibraltar, At Sea, At Sea, Southampton (4/10-17/10) Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Funchal, Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Las Palmas, Arrecife, At Sea, Vigo, At Sea, Southampton (17/10-27/10) Southampton, Le Havre, At Sea, Bilbao, At Sea, Southampton (27/10-1/11) Transatlantic: Southampton, At Sea, At Sea, Ponta Delgada, 4 Days At Sea, Kings Wharf (2 overnights), At Sea, Cape Liberty (1/11-13/11) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveru621 Posted November 16, 2018 #728 Share Posted November 16, 2018 15 hours ago, geoff2802 said: Princess itself, and Carnival more generally, are significantly increasing capacity in this market. Royal will not want to concede market share to a direct competitor and will respond. At some point, market share will be meaningless when no one is making money. RCI abandoned the west coast of the USA. I believe overcapacity, in the entire cruise industry, will be a real issue in the next few years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff2802 Posted November 16, 2018 #729 Share Posted November 16, 2018 27 minutes ago, steveru621 said: At some point, market share will be meaningless when no one is making money. RCI abandoned the west coast of the USA. I believe overcapacity, in the entire cruise industry, will be a real issue in the next few years. Yes, that's right. We saw the cruise lines pile into China with large capacity increases and they are now sending that capacity elsewhere. Overcapacity will bring lower prices when it becomes a global issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted November 17, 2018 #730 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Do we know if the Caribbean releases of cruises for sale in December will cover up to approximately Easter 2021? Ot will the Christmas 2020 Caribbean cruises come on sale at a another date in early 2019? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted November 17, 2018 #731 Share Posted November 17, 2018 The schedule has been through April in years past; no reason to think otherwise this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssb Posted November 18, 2018 #732 Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 5:09 PM, steveru621 said: At some point, market share will be meaningless when no one is making money. RCI abandoned the west coast of the USA. I believe overcapacity, in the entire cruise industry, will be a real issue in the next few years. I heard recently an expert in industry say that less than 3% of potential cruise market has been touched. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshdoc Posted November 18, 2018 #733 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I was told today (in a Southampton travel agent / cruise shop), there's a third RC ship going to be based in Southampton in 2020 but she wasn't allowed to tell me which. Anyone heard anything regarding this? Apparently public knowledge from Monday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy4life9 Posted November 18, 2018 #734 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Welshdoc said: I was told today (in a Southampton travel agent / cruise shop), there's a third RC ship going to be based in Southampton in 2020 but she wasn't allowed to tell me which. Anyone heard anything regarding this? Apparently public knowledge from Monday! Perhaps Quantum 5 goes to Southampton when Anthem goes back to the states in November 2020. I believe Quantum 5 is a fall delivery, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted November 18, 2018 #735 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, jonesy4life9 said: Perhaps Quantum 5 goes to Southampton when Anthem goes back to the states in November 2020. I believe Quantum 5 is a fall delivery, but I could be wrong. Hints of 3 ships in Southampton also came up in 2019 deployment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted November 18, 2018 #736 Share Posted November 18, 2018 18 hours ago, Welshdoc said: I was told today (in a Southampton travel agent / cruise shop), there's a third RC ship going to be based in Southampton in 2020 but she wasn't allowed to tell me which. Anyone heard anything regarding this? Apparently public knowledge from Monday! MAYBE indeed QUantum 5 after her delivery. When QUantum, Anthem and Ovation debuted, they also were deployed from Southampton: Quantum for her maiden Transatlantic Voyage to Bayonne, Anthem for a full season, Ovation for a mini season to Western Europe and the Repositioning to Rome, and than down to Middle and Far East. So I think Quantum 5 will do her maiden voyage from Southampton to either Bayonne or Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted November 18, 2018 #737 Share Posted November 18, 2018 17 hours ago, jonesy4life9 said: Perhaps Quantum 5 goes to Southampton when Anthem goes back to the states in November 2020. I believe Quantum 5 is a fall delivery, but I could be wrong. She will be out some time by mid October or later.... She can not be deployed before mid of October! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted November 18, 2018 #738 Share Posted November 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, Thorben-Hendrik said: She will be out some time by mid October or later.... She can not be deployed before mid of October! Who says that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted November 18, 2018 #739 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, shipfriend_max said: Who says that? She is being build on a river. In order to get her into the open seas the water level of the river has to be raised significantly - causing floods on the fields around it. This is only permittable after September 30th and takes several days/weeks. So we are looking at a date later than mid October 2020👍 Edited November 18, 2018 by Thorben-Hendrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted November 18, 2018 #740 Share Posted November 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, shipfriend_max said: Who says that? I told you before.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Ross Posted November 19, 2018 #741 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/18/2018 at 12:28 AM, Welshdoc said: I was told today (in a Southampton travel agent / cruise shop), there's a third RC ship going to be based in Southampton in 2020 but she wasn't allowed to tell me which. Anyone heard anything regarding this? Apparently public knowledge from Monday! Perhaps Harwich instead for 3rd ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted November 19, 2018 #742 Share Posted November 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, Albert Ross said: Perhaps Harwich instead for 3rd ship? Maybe no ships if they end up in a Brexit chaos?🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsteinvik Posted November 19, 2018 #743 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, shipfriend_max said: Who says that? Meyer Werft has 3 new buildings in 2020. The Iona in the spring, the Spirit of Adventure in the summer. So it is just logical that the Quantum 5 will be delivered sometimes in Oct/Nov if all goes well. Edited November 19, 2018 by Ulsteinvik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted November 19, 2018 #744 Share Posted November 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Ulsteinvik said: Meyer Werft has 3 new buildings in 2020. The Iona in the spring, the Spirit of Adventure in the summer. So it is just logical that the Quantum 5 will be delivered sometimes in Oct/Nov if all goes well. Spirit of Adventure is built in a separate dock so this is no issue. However, as said before the agreement between the yard and the government allows the use of the river barrier that is needed to increase the water level for delivery of big ships only between October and March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeiEdy Posted November 19, 2018 #745 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I heard Europe Phase 1 is scheduled to be released today. Does anyone know what falls under Phase 1? Looking to do Greece in 2020. Rhapsody is there now but not sure if she will be doing Greece in 2020. Has anybody heard which ships will be in Greece? Thanks for for your help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piescruises Posted November 19, 2018 #746 Share Posted November 19, 2018 what ship will be based out of boston since serenade’s in alaska? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummmerInKefalonia Posted November 19, 2018 #747 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, KeiEdy said: I heard Europe Phase 1 is scheduled to be released today. Does anyone know what falls under Phase 1? Looking to do Greece in 2020. Rhapsody is there now but not sure if she will be doing Greece in 2020. Has anybody heard which ships will be in Greece? Thanks for for your help. Europe Phase 1 includes probably only the uk sailings. Rhapsody 99% will continue doing the popular itineraries from Venice as it seems from the port listings. Vision will be in the area too. It is also believed that Explorer will take the place of Jewel and offer some cruises to Greece too. All those according to the port listings. Europe Phase II is gonna be open for booking on the week of 19th December. Edited November 19, 2018 by SummmerInKefalonia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy planning mom Posted November 19, 2018 #748 Share Posted November 19, 2018 What site are you finding the port bookings on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cw2go Posted November 19, 2018 #749 Share Posted November 19, 2018 42 minutes ago, SummmerInKefalonia said: Europe Phase 1 includes probably only the uk sailings. Rhapsody 99% will continue doing the popular itineraries from Venice as it seems from the port listings. Vision will be in the area too. It is also believed that Explorer will take the place of Jewel and offer some cruises to Greece too. All those according to the port listings. Europe Phase II is gonna be open for booking on the week of 19th December. So we can hope for Explorer replacing Jewel r/t Rome May 2020 Greek Isles to be available Dec 19th? I was confused, like the previous poster I was expecting to be able to book today. Thank you Patty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esahuma Posted November 19, 2018 #750 Share Posted November 19, 2018 The port schedules used to show up on Cruise cal dot com but not so much anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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