Princess Announces Large New Builds - Cruising Boon Onwards

[ABoatNerd]

A wonderful good afternoon Oceania CC fans!

 

On the Princess CC board is the announcement of 4,500 passenger Princess new builds in 2023 and 2025 powered by LNG.

 

Seems there is no angst in expanding the mass cruise line segment.

 

Wish Oceania would acquire more Marina size vessels, they are perrrrrrrfect!

 

I know there was a thread early this month on expansion - but thought this announcement was interesting and positive for the industry.

 

No thanks, no plans to patronize the large Vegas style ships.

 

Happy sailing to all

 

ABoatNerd

[Go-Bucks!]

Not sure why this is posted on the Oceania board, but I personally have always enjoyed Princess, especially the Regal. A different ship for all tastes is good...I have had a good time on all my cruises (easy to please?)....even on Carnival! :')

[sammiedawg]

I like Princess, especially their Alaska itineraries. It’s been a few years.

[Aruba]

On the Princess CC board is the announcement of 4,500 passenger Princess new builds in 2023 and 2025 powered by LNG.

Yikes - that's my idea of cruise hell. :eek:

[pinotlover]

The ship will be fairly limited in itineraries due to (non) availability of LNG in many ports or areas of the world.

[alidor]

Agree - also cruise hell here!

[RJB]

a wonderful good afternoon oceania cc fans!

 

On the princess cc board is the announcement of 4,500 passenger princess new builds in 2023 and 2025 powered by lng.

 

Seems there is no angst in expanding the mass cruise line segment.

 

Wish oceania would acquire more marina size vessels, they are perrrrrrrfect!

 

I know there was a thread early this month on expansion - but thought this announcement was interesting and positive for the industry.

 

No thanks, no plans to patronize the large vegas style ships.

 

Happy sailing to all

 

aboatnerd

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[Hlitner]

Perhaps we should add a few facts to the thread. There are currently 16 (yes, I said 16) LNG Powered cruise ships on order including 7 for CCL companies as well as others for RCI, Disney and MSC. Most of these ships are going to use duel fuel technology so they could use more conventional fuel if LNG was not readily available. But this is the wave of the future due to efficiencies and the increasingly tough requirements for low sulfur emissions. This trend will likely also sweep the commercial shipping market so its likely that supplies will quickly catch up to demand.

 

Our personal concern is more about the volatility of LNG and its widespread use in an era of worldwide terrorism. Just refueling a large ship with LNG will present a new level of risk not currently a problem with bunker crude. We do think the expansion of the mass market cruise industry is going to cause some huge problems in terms of ports. Consider that just a single cruise line, MSC, has plans for a dozen or more huge new ships in the next decade....and that is just one cruise line. That same line has recently signed an agreement to build a new terminal at the Port of Miami.

 

Our question is where are these ships (most of which will carry 4000+ souls) go and what impact will this have on ports around the world. We have already seen quite a few places ruined by extensive cruise traffic including several ports in the Caribbean such as St Thomas. In Europe we have Venice soon implementing plans to divert large ships to a mainland port. The approach road to Riomaggiore (Cinque Terre) has new gates installed by the Italian government that can be closed to limit traffic into the villages which are now being overrun by too many cruise ship passengers (mostly coming from nearby La Spezia).

 

Where does all this leave Oceania? Who knows?

 

Hank

[Waynetor]

Not only does Princess have the 2 new ships mentioned on order, they also have 3 more Royal class ships around 3,600 passengers each on order. The first is the Sky Princess and the 2 other are not yet named. If you look at their fleet with year of the ship build and the passenger capacity it is a verily consistent size growth.

 

Generally we like Princess but as they move to larger and larger ships they are limiting themselves to available ports. Princess is fine for us when we just want to bounce around the Caribbean without caring about the ports but for exotics and new experiences Oceania is perfect.

[StanandJim]

Not only does Princess have the 2 new ships mentioned on order, they also have 3 more Royal class ships around 3,600 passengers each on order. The first is the Sky Princess and the 2 other are not yet named. If you look at their fleet with year of the ship build and the passenger capacity it is a verily consistent size growth.

 

Generally we like Princess but as they move to larger and larger ships they are limiting themselves to available ports. Princess is fine for us when we just want to bounce around the Caribbean without caring about the ports but for exotics and new experiences Oceania is perfect.

 

Frightening as it may seem, Princess is but one cog in the Carnival Family of cruise Lines which also encompass Carnival, Costa, Cunard, HAL, P&O, Aida and Seabourn. :eek:

[buggins0402]

 

Where does all this leave Oceania? Who knows?

 

Hank

 

Perhaps porting in smaller, more unique ports for the “been there done that” group?

[Hawaiidan]

As ship size grows and grows ( the new builds are larger than the USS Ronald Regan 95,000 ton and 6000 on board this includes 2 air wings,, the new builds of 4000 and 2500 crew will surpass the largest Aircraft carriers afloat by 30 to 50%) What will be in demand I think is small , get the heck away from the monster ships, cruises...

 

People will want to escape being in a seagoing city and long for the peace and relaxation of ocean travel past. Smaller will become the future as things continue to get out of control with large ships... Like MS Tenement of the Sea, MS Obscenity of the Waves, MS Shipzilla, are a few names to consider.