Royal Caribbean VIP Casino Goers Unite!

[Dashofpepper]

Hello fellow lords and ladies of the night!

 

I've not yet cruised on RCCL, but my wife and I are desperate to, but we can't seem to get the RCCL casino team and their back-end support team to tell me which RCCL ships have a single-zero roulette table onboard. Supposedly there are 8, and they are all in VIP sections.

 

I was getting ready to fly to Vegas to hit the MGM Grand's $25 - $20,000 la partage roulette table, and my wife interjected a cruise...so I need to find a cruise that has single zero roulette. American roulette is 0 + 00, which doubles the house edge. Because Americans are greedy. European roulette has a single 0.

 

Any of you guys also gamblers? Going on or coming off a ship that can eyeball the casino, talk to the casino host, find out if there are single zero roulette tables on board, and what the min/max bets are for them?

[ASuperJohn]

I only saw single zero on our Mediterranean cruise and on the Transatlantic coming back to US from European area. I have not ever seen a VIP section on the ships at least not in the casino. Good luck

 

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[Thorben-Hendrik]

No dice! for both!(y)

[klfrodo]

Never seen a VIP section in any Royal ship casino. I have seen some high limit tables set aside, but never seen anything other than 0/00 roulette tables on European or Caribbean cruises

[mpdog42]

Let me get this straight....Your a "Big" time gambler that plays 20,000 dollar Tables in Vegas, but your asking advice so you can play in a "Unregulated" Casino with max bets on a Cruise Ship???:rolleyes:

 

This is a Joke Right??;p

 

Mike

[westcoastvecs]

“Because Americans are greedy”!?!?

Beg your pardon?

 

 

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[Mikew0805]

“Because Americans are greedy”!?!?

Beg your pardon?

 

 

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LOL! Offended?

 

American here, and yep.. the truth can hurt.

 

OP.. I have not seen VIP rooms on the ships.

[NateUpNorth]

If American's were greedy wouldn't they refuse to play double zero roulette as that doubles the house edge?

Wouldn't the greedy person be the one who only plays single zero roulette to maximize their possible edge?

Then again, I'm Canadian, and we're perfect. ;p

[leisuretraveler223]

I'm a borderline degenerate gambler. I get to Vegas six or seven times a year. I have credit lines at six Strip properties and hosts at all of them.

 

I enjoy cruising, but I don't do any serious gambling because it is inconsistent and unregulated. No thousand dollar bets on a ship for me. I will stick to max of $100, because I am doing it simple as a diversion and not serious gambling.

 

As an example of how poorly regulated it is: When a blackjack table closes, they pick up the shoe and carry it to the back room behind the cage. When a table reopens, they just carry the same shoe back out and start dealing. No new cards, no verification of full decks. Best I can tell, decks are changed out at most once a week.

[sellwingri]

I'm a borderline degenerate gambler. I get to Vegas six or seven times a year. I have credit lines at six Strip properties and hosts at all of them.

 

I enjoy cruising, but I don't do any serious gambling because it is inconsistent and unregulated. No thousand dollar bets on a ship for me. I will stick to max of $100, because I am doing it simple as a diversion and not serious gambling.

 

As an example of how poorly regulated it is: When a blackjack table closes, they pick up the shoe and carry it to the back room behind the cage. When a table reopens, they just carry the same shoe back out and start dealing. No new cards, no verification of full decks. Best I can tell, decks are changed out at most once a week.

 

I cruise fairly frequently and spend a lot of time in the casino playing cards. They change the cards multiple times every day. Unsure where you got your information.

[leisuretraveler223]

I cruise fairly frequently and spend a lot of time in the casino playing cards. They change the cards multiple times every day. Unsure where you got your information.

 

On my last cruise on Royal (Allure October 2016), and my most recent cruise on Celebrity (Equinox February 2018), I observed this practice. So, I got my information first hand. Maybe some ships are better than others, but this is what I've seen.

[Dashofpepper]

I only saw single zero on our Mediterranean cruise and on the Transatlantic coming back to US from European area. I have not ever seen a VIP section on the ships at least not in the casino. Good luck

 

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What ship was your Mediterranean cruise?

[Dashofpepper]

On my last cruise on Royal (Allure October 2016), and my most recent cruise on Celebrity (Equinox February 2018), I observed this practice. So, I got my information first hand. Maybe some ships are better than others, but this is what I've seen.

 

There are two kinds of cruise ships, just like there are two kinds of casinos. You find higher stakes, better player odds, and more extravagance on the strip resorts. You find lower stakes, worse player odds, and more dingy/grubby hotels downtown.

 

Single zero roulette on the strip is $25 - $20,000 at most places, with a two $100 - $10,000 tables at the Bellagio and Caesar's Palace in their high stakes salons. If you want to gamble with $100 or $1000, you go downtown and play American roulette (with worse odds) with the rest of the tourists on the $5 - $1000 table, or an even worse waste of time, the $1 tables, or maybe even the $0.25 electronic ones if they exist in Vegas.

 

If the cruise ship has 3:2 Blackjack, Craps, and European roulette (even if its just in a VIP section), its a strip equivalent casino. If it has 6:5 Blackjack, mostly slot machines, and American roulette (or worse, that new triple zero scam, **** YOU CARNIVAL), it's a progressive scale of the slum casinos off-strip.

 

It just depends on who you're cruising with. Adjust your expectations accordingly. Try the Queen Mary 2.

[ASuperJohn]

What ship was your Mediterranean cruise?

Rhapsody of the Seas

This was back in October 2016. Wife and l have another reverse Transatlantic this October. I will check and see if they are running single then.

If l remember correctly they had both available on the ship.

 

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[Dashofpepper]

Rhapsody of the Seas

This was back in October 2016. Wife and l have another reverse Transatlantic this October. I will check and see if they are running single then.

If l remember correctly they had both available on the ship.

 

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RCCL JUST e-mailed me back with a list of ships with single zero roulette. I've been waiting a week!

 

ex-explorer of the seas

vy- voyager of the seas

ma-mariner of the seas

aL- allure of the seas

OA- oasis of the seas

HM-harmony of the seas

SY-symphony of the seas

QN-quantum of the seas

OV- ovation of the seas

RH-rhapsody of the seas