Dashofpepper Posted July 29, 2018 #1 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Hey folks! I just blind-booked the Nov.4-11 cruise on the Oasis of the Seas - I've been waiting for a week trying to get answers from the Club Royale booking folks to some casino questions with no luck - but the cruise is almost full, so I pulled the trigger despite not having answers. What the Casino Royale booking agent was able to tell me was that the Oasis has a European roulette table (single zero table) in the VIP room, with a minimum even money bet of $25 and the maximum "at the manager's discretion." What he couldn't tell me was whether I'd be able to access and gamble in the VIP room (I've not sailed with RCCL before), or what the default table max is. I'd gamble at a $25 - $5000 table, or a $25 - $10,000 table, but I would not gamble at a $25 - $1000 or $2000 table. Do any of you know anything that might be helpful? I intend to wire transfer funds to the ship to gamble, and I'm hopeful that what I assume to be a higher stakes European roulette table might look like what I'd find on the strip in Vegas. I hate that I've booked it without KNOWING whether I can gamble there or not, but options were drying up. Balconies gone, minisuites gone, there was one inside stateroom left, and every day that went by without answers....I felt like I had to book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted July 29, 2018 #2 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Gambling on the ship is NOT like gambling in Vegas..... Odds are awful...dealers seem to always win...it ain't Vegas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashofpepper Posted July 29, 2018 Author #3 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Gambling on the ship is NOT like gambling in Vegas..... Odds are awful...dealers seem to always win...it ain't Vegas! Uh....what? Odds are odds. House odds on a European roulette table are 2.7%. House odds on American roulette are 5.4%. Unless the casino is using a rigged magnetic table, it's just odds. Same with card games - good blackjack tables are 3:2, bad tables are 6:5. Just like I wouldn't play at an American roulette table (land or sea), I wouldn't play at a 6:5 roulette table (anywhere), let alone that scammy triple-zero roulette table that the Venetian and Carnival are trying to roll out on their players. But odds are odds. Except on slots. I'm cruising in November instead of going to Vegas. Unless the min-max bet limits are screwy, I'll gamble there. Shipboard casinos usually have $5-2000 American roulette. If the minimum bit on the European table is $25, the maximum bet would scale to $10,000. But I don't know for sure. And I'd like to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted July 29, 2018 #4 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Only American Roulette on the ship.....no VIP room! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashofpepper Posted July 29, 2018 Author #5 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Only American Roulette on the ship.....no VIP room! Eh? Club Royale gave me a list of the ships that have a single zero table - there were 10 of them. ex-explorer of the seas vy- voyager of the seas ma-mariner of the seas aL- allure of the seas OA- oasis of the seas HM-harmony of the seas SY-symphony of the seas QN-quantum of the seas OV- ovation of the seas RH-rhapsody of the seas Of those 10, the only November departures were pretty much the Oasis cruise I booked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted July 29, 2018 #6 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Well first I would NOT count on it - they always give false information - did not se it BUT .....and they might not even open it on a lot of nights. Usually they have 2 wheels but only one open....the American one..... Maybe that is why I did not notice it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingfromDE Posted July 29, 2018 #7 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Try emailing the Oasis host - oa_casinohost@rccl.com. I've never seen a VIP room on a RCCL ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashofpepper Posted July 29, 2018 Author #8 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Try emailing the Oasis host - oa_casinohost@rccl.com. I've never seen a VIP room on a RCCL ship. Score! That's more information than I've been able to get out of RCCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingfromDE Posted July 29, 2018 #9 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Score! That's more information than I've been able to get out of RCCL. You're welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashofpepper Posted July 29, 2018 Author #10 Share Posted July 29, 2018 You're welcome! I was only interested in the VIP room insofar as the Club Royale reservation guy said the European table on the Oasis was in the VIP room, and I presume I'm not a VIP. Single zero roulette tables usually have significantly higher table min/max limits than American tables because the house odds are halved. I'd be furious if I canceled my Vegas trip to go on this cruise instead, only to find out that the casino either (1) doesn't have a single zero roulette table after all, (2) that I wasn't allowed to gamble at it, or (3) that the limits are so low that I can't play on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted July 29, 2018 #11 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Well I would say your chances of gambling on that trip are ZERO! No VIP room and I am sure they will NOT have the European table open if the minimum is 25$ - if they even have such a table! Which I serously doubt! I think you were given very false information!(n) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruthCanHurt Posted July 29, 2018 #12 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Well I would say your chances of gambling on that trip are ZERO!No VIP room and I am sure they will NOT have the European table open if the minimum is 25$ - if they even have such a table! Which I serously doubt! I think you were given very false information!(n) YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. 1. There is a roped off "vip" section where they do have high limit tables 2. They absolutely have (1) single zero table. As the other poster suggested Please email either the casino host or manager oa_casinomanager@rccl.com oa_casinohost@rccl.com That being said. still not sure they will offer you high enough limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruthCanHurt Posted July 29, 2018 #13 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I was only interested in the VIP room insofar as the Club Royale reservation guy said the European table on the Oasis was in the VIP room, and I presume I'm not a VIP. Single zero roulette tables usually have significantly higher table min/max limits than American tables because the house odds are halved. I'd be furious if I canceled my Vegas trip to go on this cruise instead, only to find out that the casino either (1) doesn't have a single zero roulette table after all, (2) that I wasn't allowed to gamble at it, or (3) that the limits are so low that I can't play on it. AS I was saying. Thorben has no idea what they are talking about. in this video at 3:19 seconds is the roped off area I am talking about. I am in the casino program and only play roulette, but unlike you I personally do not like single zero tables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashofpepper Posted July 29, 2018 Author #14 Share Posted July 29, 2018 YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. 1. There is a roped off "vip" section where they do have high limit tables 2. They absolutely have (1) single zero table. As the other poster suggested Please email either the casino host or manager oa_casinomanager@rccl.com oa_casinohost@rccl.com That being said. still not sure they will offer you high enough limits. I didn't see a single zero wheel in there (3:19 was an electronic poker table, and I watched the whole thing), but I e-mailed both of those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruthCanHurt Posted July 29, 2018 #15 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I didn't see a single zero wheel in there, but I e-mailed both of those! they are typically pretty responsive by email depending on who the host or manager is on that ship right now. Not sure if the single zero wheel was in the "roped" off section or not. I know for a fact, that there is a single zero wheel. On both the oasis and the allure. "I guess what I should have made more clear, is that while i know there is a single zero wheel on board, not sure if there was also one in the small roped off section " Just hang tight and see what they come back to you with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted July 29, 2018 #16 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I didn't see a single zero wheel in there (3:19 was an electronic poker table, and I watched the whole thing), but I e-mailed both of those! Yep and I have no idea what I talk about.....:'):rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashofpepper Posted July 29, 2018 Author #17 Share Posted July 29, 2018 they are typically pretty responsive by email depending on who the host or manager is on that ship right now.Not sure if the single zero wheel was in the "roped" off section or not. I know for a fact, that there is a single zero wheel. On both the oasis and the allure. "I guess what I should have made more clear, is that while i know there is a single zero wheel on board, not sure if there was also one in the small roped off section " Just hang tight and see what they come back to you with. Thanks man, you're a ray of hope! After feeling poorly treated by NCL, I'd given up cruising. My wife and I were going to fly to Vegas in November - I like roulette, but I'm also not stupid, so will never play on an American roulette wheel and double the house edge for no reason. =p She wanted to cruise instead, so we picked a cruise that supposedly had a single-zero wheel, investigated it...and day by day it was filling up. No more minisuites, then no more ocean view balconies. Today there was only one more inside stateroom so I booked it out of desperation, with still no answers from RCCL. The reservation guy trying to work through his support group. I really appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruthCanHurt Posted July 29, 2018 #18 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Thanks man, you're a ray of hope! After feeling poorly treated by NCL, I'd given up cruising. My wife and I were going to fly to Vegas in November - I like roulette, but I'm also not stupid, so will never play on an American roulette wheel and double the house edge for no reason. =p She wanted to cruise instead, so we picked a cruise that supposedly had a single-zero wheel, investigated it...and day by day it was filling up. No more minisuites, then no more ocean view balconies. Today there was only one more inside stateroom so I booked it out of desperation, with still no answers from RCCL. The reservation guy trying to work through his support group. I really appreciate it. The vip area starts on the right hand side of your screen at 3:13 and goes past 3:19. it just so happens at 3:19 it was a closeup of one of the tables in the vip area. and yes. Ignore thorben he spent an entire thread bashing someone about how terrible they were because they wanted to take their kids swimming with the dolphins. Thorben is just a troll that likes attn and has nothing to contribute. Please just wait for the host or the manager and look at the "block" of time in the video and you will see what they refer to as the vip area. It's not simply a different room, it's more like a roped off back corner. However, in this video it looks like that have that area set up with electronic machines, maybe for a tournament. so it does, and can change. at any rate. I wish you all the best, and hope you enjoy the ship it's beautiful. Please get the detailed information from the ship casino. best of luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashofpepper Posted July 29, 2018 Author #19 Share Posted July 29, 2018 The vip area starts on the right hand side of your screen at 3:13 and goes past 3:19. it just so happens at 3:19 it was a closeup of one of the tables in the vip area. and yes. Ignore thorben he spent an entire thread bashing someone about how terrible they were because they wanted to take their kids swimming with the dolphins. Thorben is just a troll that likes attn and has nothing to contribute. Please just wait for the host or the manager and look at the "block" of time in the video and you will see what they refer to as the vip area. It's not simply a different room, it's more like a roped off back corner I gotcha. :D:D How pissed would you be if you canceled a Vegas vacation to go on a cruise, and the cruise didn't have what you were going to play in Vegas? =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foosguy Posted July 29, 2018 #20 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I can also confirm that they have a single zero table and it is not in the VIP section. Kyle Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted July 29, 2018 #21 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Allure, sister of Oasis also had a VIP area, sorry cannot remember if there was a single zero roulette wheel. The VIP area was hardly used when we sailed, but I can from experience of using the VIP area, confirm that it does actually exist. Min table limit on BJ was $200-$5000 and negotiable;) Like others have quoted Thorben is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashofpepper Posted July 30, 2018 Author #22 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Allure, sister of Oasis also had a VIP area, sorry cannot remember if there was a single zero roulette wheel. The VIP area was hardly used when we sailed, but I can from experience of using the VIP area, confirm that it does actually exist. Min table limit on BJ was $200-$5000 and negotiable;) Like others have quoted Thorben is incorrect. Were both the min and max negotiable? I’m a martingale gambler; I require a minimum on 8 doubles on a roulette table and 7 on a blackjack table - I’d play $50 -$5000 Blackjack, or $200 - $20,000 (in theory) but in reality, I wouldn’t bankroll more than $10k without all the rules that mitigate house edge. IE, I’ll play on a $25 - $5,000 single zero roulette table without La Partage if I have no options, but without La Partage or En Prison, I’m not going to go hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted July 30, 2018 #23 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Were both the min and max negotiable? I’m a martingale gambler; I require a minimum on 8 doubles on a roulette table and 7 on a blackjack table - I’d play $50 -$5000 Blackjack, or $200 - $20,000 (in theory) but in reality, I wouldn’t bankroll more than $10k without all the rules that mitigate house edge. IE, I’ll play on a $25 - $5,000 single zero roulette table without La Partage if I have no options, but without La Partage or En Prison, I’m not going to go hard. In the days when I would drop $25 on all numbers placed In tiers du cylinder, the min max really didn’t matter. What you will find on most of the roulette tables on RC now is the racetrack (Neigbours) bet option. It amazes me whenever I place a $100 neighbors bet, no one at the table has any idea what it is for;) This is the only bet I will drop on a double zero wheel Min was fixed at $200 at the table I was at, another player asked for the max to be increased and the Casino Manager obliged There was also a $500 min as well. So I will assume if you are a lone wolf, you can pretty much ask for the limits to be set to your liking. Also to add you can play multiple boxes without having to double your wager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashofpepper Posted July 30, 2018 Author #24 Share Posted July 30, 2018 In the days when I would drop $25 on all numbers placed In tiers du cylinder, the min max really didn’t matter. What you will find on most of the roulette tables on RC now is the racetrack (Neigbours) bet option. It amazes me whenever I place a $100 neighbors bet, no one at the table has any idea what it is for;) This is the only bet I will drop on a double zero wheel Min was fixed at $200 at the table I was at, another player asked for the max to be increased and the Casino Manager obliged There was also a $500 min as well. So I will assume if you are a lone wolf, you can pretty much ask for the limits to be set to your liking. Also to add you can play multiple boxes without having to double your wager. Amelia, the OA casino manager just emailed me back. She said that both the American and European table are on the main floor, non-smoking side. The Allure has a $25 minimum on the table in the VIO lounge - which doesn’t apply to the Oasis. Sadly, she also told me that the European table has no European rules (La Partage). Strangely, she also told me that bith tables have a $5 - $1,000 even money bet limit, and CR has to approve a max raise. (Casino Royale?). It’s strange because I’ve never even HEARD of a $5 - $1000 single zero table. Casinos raise the minimum to make up the loas of house edge vs. American roulette. Some indian casinos have a $10 minimum, but there is nowhere in Vegas with a $5 table, or even a $10 table - and the only way to get a $25 minimum on the strip is to show up during off peak. Or gonplay american roulette, which I will never do again. Anyway - you all are the very, very best. :hearteyes: Finally in touch with someone able to give me answers! I asked what it would take to get preapproval from CR to raise the table max for me for my Nov 4-11 cruise; I can dink around on a $5-$1000 table if I have to, but Inonly bankroll 2x a table max; Inwas looking for a $10k game, and I’m not going to hassle with a wire transfer or line of credit if they won’t stake the game I want to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted July 30, 2018 #25 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I'm beting that this trip will not meet expectations. Sent from my SM-T820 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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