Rare MicCanberra Posted May 14, 2019 Author #26 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, John Bull said: Well at least that's better than my team (Southampton) this season - we've not been getting the results that we've begged for, and have been reduced to begging for the results of our relegation rivals. Fortunately Cardiff's results were worse, so it's they who dropped into the abyss. BTW, I've always had a healthy dislike of Liverpool. Partly cos we're both port cities but mainly cos of the way Liverpool have been unsettling and poaching our best players. Van Dyke, Mane, Lallana, Clyne, Schneiderlin, etc. After they were hammered in the first leg at Barca, I was looking for them to take a pasting at Anfield, but they fought back so well that I was actually cheering for them. But I'm still pleased that they lost out in the race for the Premiership, and hopefully it'll be another 19 years before they win it. Watford for the Cup? More begging required. JB Cheers JB, I appreciate why people go for certain teams and also dislike other teams. Fortunately, when it come to sport I have been lucky to be a participant as well as a supporter across various leagues around the world. This way I always have a good result on any given weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 14, 2019 Author #27 Share Posted May 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, les37b said: Touch of irony there I think! No, just a gentle ribbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 14, 2019 Author #28 Share Posted May 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, John Bull said: Yes, and that gives me a problem for the CL. I want to cheer against Liverpool. But I also want to cheer against Spurs. Although I think Liverpool will win, I'll stick to cheering against them. It wasn't Spurs'fault that Poch deserted Southampton, Southampton wasn't big enough for his ambitions. And now according to the media it seems that Spurs aren't either JB ps I haven't forgotten about Gareth Bale either. But that was Southampton's style - had (note the use of the past tense) a great academy, found and nurtured talent, but then kept selling. I will only listen to your thoughts of Liverpool winning and disregard the rest of that sentence. In terms of developing Talent it is a win lose situation, develop good talent but do not have the team and credit to keep it. We have that in many clubs in many sports not just football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John Bull Posted May 14, 2019 #29 Share Posted May 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: In terms of developing Talent it is a win lose situation, develop good talent but do not have the team and credit to keep it. We have that in many clubs in many sports not just football. Agreed. And Southampton's reputation for cashing-in - and cashing-in too early eg Bale & Walcott - hasn't helped. But they dug their heels in and resisted Van Dyke's desire to break his contract after Liverpool's unprofessional & illegal approaches to the player. Net result he played poorly, was an unsettling influence on the team, and was dropped until he realised that he wouldn't get his move if he carried on like that. Eventually they felt bound to get shot of him - and of course to cash-in. Me? Despite the wages & transfer fee, I'd have left him to kick his heels at home til his contract expired, wrecking his name and career. Sometime you gotta make a stand against crass disloyalty. I have great respect for loyalties - at Southampton the likes of Channon & Le Tissier, but there have been many other loyal servants at other clubs. Far too much money and selfishness in the sport these days, particularly after the re-branding (or more accurately the revised financing) of the First Division to the "Premier League" in '92 and the old 2nd Division also following the money. And the consequent glut of foreign talent has resulted in the loss of English talent which used to come up thro the ranks of the lower leagues, hence a poor national team and financially-strapped clubs in the lower leagues. The demise last week of one-time great Bolton Wanderers is an example. Rant over COYR JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 14, 2019 Author #30 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I have two anecdotes that I like to use, especially when referring to sport. 1. Money ruins everything. It seems to me the more money put into any sport, the worse it becomes in many ways. Just look at how leagues have changed since getting richer, they have become more lopsided rather than levelling the competition and with the massive gambling being involved now, big money on offer is affecting results, players, referees and not necessarily by match fixing but by fear of making a mistake. 2. The most important thing about sport is that it is not important. (Mark Twain). I have used this second one often especially when results don't go my way, or even when they do, as a day or so after the result, your life carries on as per usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted May 15, 2019 #31 Share Posted May 15, 2019 On 5/14/2019 at 1:56 AM, John Bull said: Yes, and that gives me a problem for the CL. I want to cheer against Liverpool. But I also want to cheer against Spurs. Although I think Liverpool will win, I'll stick to cheering against them. It wasn't Spurs'fault that Poch deserted Southampton, Southampton wasn't big enough for his ambitions. And now according to the media it seems that Spurs aren't either JB ps I haven't forgotten about Gareth Bale either. But that was Southampton's style - had (note the use of the past tense) a great academy, found and nurtured talent, but then kept selling. JB - thanks to Southampton for sending Steven Davis back home to Glasgow. Played a great match last Sunday when we thumped Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 15, 2019 Author #32 Share Posted May 15, 2019 37 minutes ago, Heidi13 said: JB - thanks to Southampton for sending Steven Davis back home to Glasgow. Played a great match last Sunday when we thumped Celtic. It was a good win for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John Bull Posted May 15, 2019 #33 Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Heidi13 said: JB - thanks to Southampton for sending Steven Davis back home to Glasgow. Played a great match last Sunday when we thumped Celtic. Decent striker. Problem is, we have more than enough "decent" strikers - Redmond, Austin, Ings, Long etc - but nobody outstanding since we sold Mane to 'Pool and Pelle to Japan. That's the Southampton way. JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 15, 2019 Author #34 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Mane was okay for us, made a good strike force with Salah and Formino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted May 16, 2019 #35 Share Posted May 16, 2019 4 hours ago, John Bull said: Decent striker. Problem is, we have more than enough "decent" strikers - Redmond, Austin, Ings, Long etc - but nobody outstanding since we sold Mane to 'Pool and Pelle to Japan. That's the Southampton way. JB Also remember when they sold Walcott while still a teenager. Davis was always a midfielder at Ibrox - attacking midfield until 2012, but now sitting just in front of the back 4 and spraying passes around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted May 16, 2019 #36 Share Posted May 16, 2019 6 hours ago, MicCanberra said: It was a good win for them. Brilliant match, was up at 04:00 to watch it live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John Bull Posted May 16, 2019 #37 Share Posted May 16, 2019 12 hours ago, MicCanberra said: Mane was okay Okay, Mic? OKAY ???? Joint top-scorer in the Premier League was only "okay" ? Add another goalscorer as good as him & Liverpool will have the Premiership in the bag by Christmas. And by replacing him with Liverpool's Danny Ings, Southampton end up relying on the dross at the bottom of the table to avoid relegation JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 16, 2019 Author #38 Share Posted May 16, 2019 9 hours ago, John Bull said: Okay, Mic? OKAY ???? Joint top-scorer in the Premier League was only "okay" ? Add another goalscorer as good as him & Liverpool will have the Premiership in the bag by Christmas. And by replacing him with Liverpool's Danny Ings, Southampton end up relying on the dross at the bottom of the table to avoid relegation JB I thought you may bite. 😁😁 Yes, he was good and as I said, with Salah joint scorer as well, they made an awesome pair up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 29, 2019 Author #39 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Chelsea win the Europa final 4-1 over Arsenal, a second half blitz did the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 1, 2019 Author #40 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Liverpool win the Champions League for the 6th time, 2-0 over Tottenham. Well done Liverpool after such a solid season and missing the Premiership by one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted June 2, 2019 #41 Share Posted June 2, 2019 3 hours ago, MicCanberra said: Liverpool win the Champions League for the 6th time, 2-0 over Tottenham. Well done Liverpool after such a solid season and missing the Premiership by one point. Brilliant result 🙂, actual match not so good. Next season - Liverpool to win EPL & Rangers, with a Liverpool legend as Manager, to win the SPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 2, 2019 Author #42 Share Posted June 2, 2019 I really do hope you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted June 2, 2019 #43 Share Posted June 2, 2019 In addition, wishful thinking would be Liverpool winning CL # 7 and Rangers winning Europa League # 2.😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 2, 2019 Author #44 Share Posted June 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, Heidi13 said: In addition, wishful thinking would be Liverpool winning CL # 7 and Rangers winning Europa League # 2.😀 I will share that wishful thinking with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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