LewieE Posted July 3, 2020 #26 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Bird, I agree. Disappointed, but not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy&Grumpy Posted July 4, 2020 #27 Share Posted July 4, 2020 5 hours ago, LewieE said: I was just looking at the Haven cabin count today and I think they reclassified the CC cabins as Haven as well. We are on the 1/24/2021 sailing. There looks to be 118 Haven cabins, which is a substantial increase to the previous count of 74. Hoping that the additional cabin count doesn't completely overwhelm Haven common area capacity. IMHO, it would make the cost of the Haven even harder to justify; Nope. We booked a CC ages ago and it is now an SC. Only CA & CB are now Haven; CC & CF are Suites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewieE Posted July 4, 2020 #28 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Wendy&Grumpy, thanks. Thanks for the correction. When I saw what looked like extra cabins, 44 in total, I just thought CC might have been converted as well. It’s going to be interesting, nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy&Grumpy Posted July 4, 2020 #29 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, LewieE said: Wendy&Grumpy, thanks. Thanks for the correction. When I saw what looked like extra cabins, 44 in total, I just thought CC might have been converted as well. It’s going to be interesting, nonetheless. We're considering upgrading. We were in Breakaway Haven last Thanksgiving, and Joy's seems to be larger. I think there's about 80 Haven cabins there (?) and I don't believe we ever saw the lounge or restaurant even half full, so I'm thinking it'll be ok. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted July 4, 2020 #30 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Wendy&Grumpy said: We're considering upgrading. We were in Breakaway Haven last Thanksgiving, and Joy's seems to be larger. I think there's about 80 Haven cabins there (?) and I don't believe we ever saw the lounge or restaurant even half full, so I'm thinking it'll be ok. 😎 Here's my count for Joy Haven after Sept. 2020...(I could be wrong since the colors on the deck-plan are so similar ) Deck 18 - 22 staterooms Deck 17 - 28 staterooms Deck 15 - 16 staterooms Deck 14 - 32 staterooms Deck 13 - 4 staterooms Deck 12 - 4 staterooms Deck 11 - 4 staterooms Deck 10 - 4 staterooms Deck 9 - 4 staterooms 118 total Edited July 4, 2020 by Two Wheels Only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted July 4, 2020 #31 Share Posted July 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Wendy&Grumpy said: Nope. We booked a CC ages ago and it is now an SC. Only CA & CB are now Haven; CC & CF are Suites. Not all were changed to Haven. If the “S” cabins get standard suite amenities, that a lot better than the old concierge class which was mostly a big nothing (we sailed in a CC to Alaska last year). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy&Grumpy Posted July 4, 2020 #32 Share Posted July 4, 2020 9 hours ago, Two Wheels Only said: Here's my count for Joy Haven after Sept. 2020...(I could be wrong since the colors on the deck-plan are so similar ) Deck 18 - 22 staterooms Deck 17 - 28 staterooms Deck 15 - 16 staterooms Deck 14 - 32 staterooms Deck 13 - 4 staterooms Deck 12 - 4 staterooms Deck 11 - 4 staterooms Deck 10 - 4 staterooms Deck 9 - 4 staterooms 118 total I get the same for Joy. The 80 was referring to Breakaway. 🙃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy&Grumpy Posted July 4, 2020 #33 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, BirdTravels said: Not all were changed to Haven. If the “S” cabins get standard suite amenities, that a lot better than the old concierge class which was mostly a big nothing (we sailed in a CC to Alaska last year). We had actually booked to check out the concierge class, just because it was offered. lol The Suite amenities are great though, especially for those who are getting them as a free upgrade! https://www.ncl.com/why-cruise-norwegian/cruise-accommodations/cruise-suites-and-penthouses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wink87 Posted August 24, 2021 #34 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 9/13/2019 at 3:34 AM, swimmom1 said: We had an absolutely phenomenal time in the concierge room. From the first day to early boarding which let us get every showtime and dinner reservation we wanted to the last day when we were personally escorted off on the “secret” elevator it was great. The room size worked for us and the bathroom was super large. there was tons of storage including two big closets. Every day we had a surprise from our room attendant even though we sure did not need more food. breakfast and lunch were our favorites as they knew our names after the first lunch and took great care of us. Even though the menu was the same every day none of us minded and there were plenty of options. I forgot to mention I travelled with my mom, me and my two twenty something year old kids. We usually get two balconies but with the room size we were all together and we all spent more time together than with the two rooms. This was our first time on ncl , we usually travel with rccl but with the perk of 3rd and 4th in room we couldn’t pass it up. We had a suite on rccl last cruise also and this cruise was one of our favorites. We are from south Florida so Alaska was amazing. Sorry to be so verbose but if you have additional questions I’ll be happy to help. Were you in cabin 14778 on the joy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wink87 Posted August 24, 2021 #35 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 9/11/2019 at 3:52 PM, Dd3thomas said: We are booked on the Joy, Nov 14th 2020 for an Eastern Caribbean and have Concierge suite 14778 with the angled balcony. Looks like a great cabin, more spacious than most. We are contemplating upgrading to a Haven but not sure if it’s worth it. We are traveling with a large group of family and don’t really care about having a “Haven only” courtyard or restaurant. That would make it harder for all the family to visit and meet up. We did a suite on NCL Pride Dec 2019 and loved the priority on/off, reserved seating section for shows, Cagney’s for breakfast and the larger cabin/bath. We didn’t use the butler service, but the concierge was great on helping with excursions and what to do. Can anyone help confirm a few things? Website says priority embarkation and disembarkation, does this also apply to getting off/on the boat at each port? I saw a comment that there is a Haven line for getting off at the ports, can concierge use it as well? Concierge cabin gets breakfast and lunch at a private restaurant? Is there a reserved seating section for shows? I read they fill up quickly and are hard to get into. Website says “and special perks” – what else is there? For reference, we are thinking about one of the Aft facing Haven suites with the large balcony and separate living room to maybe entertain some of the family, sit out on the balcony as we sail in/out of ports. The view from pictures looks great but never had an aft corner before, not sure if it is noisy from the propellers? Thanks in advance for any and all information! So did you stay with cabin 14778 on the joy? Did you like the room and balcony size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy&Grumpy Posted August 24, 2021 #36 Share Posted August 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Wink87 said: So did you stay with cabin 14778 on the joy? Did you like the room and balcony size? Likely not, considering there were no cruises in November 2020. 🙃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted August 24, 2021 #37 Share Posted August 24, 2021 17 hours ago, Wink87 said: So did you stay with cabin 14778 on the joy? Did you like the room and balcony size? You are responding to a 2 year old post asking about a cruise that never happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wink87 Posted August 24, 2021 #38 Share Posted August 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Wendy&Grumpy said: Likely not, considering there were no cruises in November 2020. 🙃 Lol! Duh. My bad😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wink87 Posted August 24, 2021 #39 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, BirdTravels said: You are responding to a 2 year old post asking about a cruise that never happened. Ya, I feel like a dufus Bird!😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitty-sail Posted August 26, 2021 #40 Share Posted August 26, 2021 The "Suite" category is a great choice - nice perks with a big saving over Haven prices. Private breakfast & lunch avoids crowds in buffet or dining rooms. Butler service for breakfast and snacks. Concierge for all your reservations and excursions. I like the Suites very much. The only missing part is the lack of private pool so for a few hundred (instead of thousand for Haven) I get a spa pass which has a private pool, hot tub, private loungers. This combo gets me just about everything from Haven but the added cost. I'm happy that I get everything I want and save thousand+ dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpl100 Posted March 14, 2022 #41 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 6/26/2020 at 10:49 AM, graphicguy said: OK..thanks for pointing that out. Looking at some suites on deck 14 that looked to be former Concierge Suites. They now have a HI designation. They look to be the same size (actually some have a much larger balcony) as the other Haven Suites. Prices are really good, too. Please expand and explain this if you can. Planning first suite experience on the Joy in 2023. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpl100 Posted March 14, 2022 #42 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 8/26/2021 at 11:12 AM, kitty-sail said: The "Suite" category is a great choice - nice perks with a big saving over Haven prices. Private breakfast & lunch avoids crowds in buffet or dining rooms. Butler service for breakfast and snacks. Concierge for all your reservations and excursions. I like the Suites very much. The only missing part is the lack of private pool so for a few hundred (instead of thousand for Haven) I get a spa pass which has a private pool, hot tub, private loungers. This combo gets me just about everything from Haven but the added cost. I'm happy that I get everything I want and save thousand+ dollars. Which category and deck do you prefer for the suites? Silence at night is important to me. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacation44 Posted March 14, 2022 #43 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Please know they changed the amenities that come with the Joy non Haven suites. The majority of them were taken away last November without any notifications to those that had/have a suite booked. There are a few threads about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy&Grumpy Posted March 14, 2022 #44 Share Posted March 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, vacation44 said: Please know they changed the amenities that come with the Joy non Haven suites. The majority of them were taken away last November without any notifications to those that had/have a suite booked. There are a few threads about it. Can you share links to those threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susique Posted March 14, 2022 #45 Share Posted March 14, 2022 There is no longer a butler. There is a concierge, but he does not do what a Haven concierge does. He may help with dinner reservations and such. There is no longer breakfast/lunch in a special restaurant. It does include upgraded bedding and 2 free deliveries from room service. There is also priority embark/debark. We booked a Family Suite and vacation 44 booked (I think) a penthouse suite. When we booked all the good stuff was listed, but we soon found out after numerous inquiries that the website was never changed. It took forever to get the correct answers. We upgraded to a HH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susique Posted March 14, 2022 #46 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I am sorry, but my reply is for the SC and SP suites on the Joy. They are not Haven Suites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacation44 Posted March 14, 2022 #47 Share Posted March 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, susique said: I am sorry, but my reply is for the SC and SP suites on the Joy. They are not Haven Suites Yes, these are the ones, I believe cpl100 and Wendy and Grumpy are talking about. They changed the category letters, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacation44 Posted March 14, 2022 #48 Share Posted March 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, susique said: There is no longer a butler. There is a concierge, but he does not do what a Haven concierge does. He may help with dinner reservations and such. There is no longer breakfast/lunch in a special restaurant. It does include upgraded bedding and 2 free deliveries from room service. There is also priority embark/debark. We booked a Family Suite and vacation 44 booked (I think) a penthouse suite. When we booked all the good stuff was listed, but we soon found out after numerous inquiries that the website was never changed. It took forever to get the correct answers. We upgraded to a HH. You explained both of our experiences perfectly. Still such a disappointment with the way it was handled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitty-sail Posted March 15, 2022 #49 Share Posted March 15, 2022 6 hours ago, cpl100 said: Which category and deck do you prefer for the suites? Silence at night is important to me. Thanks. The Joy did revise the 'suite' cabins moving 1 category into Haven. The other category has concierge service only. When I book 'suite' cabins it's usually on the older smaller ships, ie, the Dawn class, Jewel class, Spirit, Sun. These ships don't have a Haven or only a modified Haven. The Suite cabins on these ships are wonderful, coming with butler and concierge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedbearz Posted March 21, 2022 #50 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Anyone sail on the Joy recently? Are the Suites on the Joy basically the same as the Haven amenities ie Concierge without access to the Haven courtyard/pool/restaurant ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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