havanadaydreaming Posted December 25, 2019 #1 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Headed out on Paradise tomorrow, expecting old school muster drill (outdoors) like one we sailed on Magic this past Sept. Ncl and MSC had muster drills indoors in theatre, bars, etc. Wonder if carnival will join the indoor wave in the near future? (Only reason I care is wife has low metabolism and passed out during carnival muster in San Juan a few years ago, so now we kindly request an indoors drill) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted December 25, 2019 #2 Share Posted December 25, 2019 57 minutes ago, havanadaydreaming said: Headed out on Paradise tomorrow, expecting old school muster drill (outdoors) like one we sailed on Magic this past Sept. Ncl and MSC had muster drills indoors in theatre, bars, etc. Wonder if carnival will join the indoor wave in the near future? (Only reason I care is wife has low metabolism and passed out during carnival muster in San Juan a few years ago, so now we kindly request an indoors drill) The muster stations are set with the Coast Guard and it is not just an option for Carnival to change them as they wish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise-Crazy Posted December 25, 2019 #3 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Some of the Carnival ships do them indoors, depends on the ship and cabin location. If there are special needs let them know and they can accommodate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe817 Posted December 25, 2019 #4 Share Posted December 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Cruise-Crazy said: Some of the Carnival ships do them indoors, depends on the ship and cabin location. If there are special needs let them know and they can accommodate. I agree. They can. There's a special needs telephone number on their website somewhere. On the Dream, we had our muster drill inside. In an internet cafe area. Everyone was sitting down as well, which made it comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusin Hogs Posted December 25, 2019 #5 Share Posted December 25, 2019 If you were on the Magic ,It was held inside ,Only the older Carnival ships still have muster outside , The Dream ,Magic , Breeze ,Vista ,Horizon , Panorama are all held inside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Jamman54 Posted December 25, 2019 #6 Share Posted December 25, 2019 The last time we were on the Paradise they no longer led you outside to the lifeboats. The entire drill was inside. The exception is muster station "F" which is out on the Lido deck, but you could still sit. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanadaydreaming Posted December 25, 2019 Author #7 Share Posted December 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Crusin Hogs said: If you were on the Magic ,It was held inside ,Only the older Carnival ships still have muster outside , The Dream ,Magic , Breeze ,Vista ,Horizon , Panorama are all held inside Dang it, you're right. It was ncl sky. Sadly, earlier this month. I'm losing my mind this time, this time I'm losing my mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted December 25, 2019 #8 Share Posted December 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Elaine5715 said: The muster stations are set with the Coast Guard and it is not just an option for Carnival to change them as they wish This is not true, SOLAS sets the regulations of muster drills. The coast guard has nothing to do with muster drills. SOLAS also does not specify where the muster is held, only that it takes place by a certain time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare SRQbeachgirl Posted December 25, 2019 #9 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Our muster station on the Paradise was by the Lido pool. Much preferred being in the theater for our cruises on Magic and Breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted December 26, 2019 #10 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, coevan said: This is not true, SOLAS sets the regulations of muster drills. The coast guard has nothing to do with muster drills. SOLAS also does not specify where the muster is held, only that it takes place by a certain time. https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Our-Organization/NVIC/Subject/SOLAS/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted December 26, 2019 #11 Share Posted December 26, 2019 nice post, has nothing to do with muster drills, but USCG does enforce life jackets and safety on recreation and commercial vessels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organized Chaos Posted December 26, 2019 #12 Share Posted December 26, 2019 4 hours ago, havanadaydreaming said: Dang it, you're right. It was ncl sky. Sadly, earlier this month. I'm losing my mind this time, this time I'm losing my mind.... Bonus points for the obscure Beastie Boys reference. 😉 When it comes to outdoor muster drills, it only took one before we learned our lesson. When you go as soon as everyone's called, you end up in the very back against the wall. Then they cram in rows of people in front of you, packed as tightly as they can get them. Muster sucks in hot weather as it is, but it's much worse being in the back. So now we wait a little bit. Not so long that we hold up the process, but just long enough so we're near the front of the pack where it's more comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hunters Posted December 26, 2019 #13 Share Posted December 26, 2019 7 hours ago, havanadaydreaming said: Dang it, you're right. It was ncl sky. Sadly, earlier this month. I'm losing my mind this time, this time I'm losing my mind.... So whatcha whatcha whatcha want, whatcha want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted December 26, 2019 #14 Share Posted December 26, 2019 11 hours ago, coevan said: This is not true, SOLAS sets the regulations of muster drills. The coast guard has nothing to do with muster drills. SOLAS also does not specify where the muster is held, only that it takes place by a certain time. 19 hours ago, Elaine5715 said: The muster stations are set with the Coast Guard and it is not just an option for Carnival to change them as they wish Well, you're both wrong. The muster stations are set by SOLAS regulation, as set out by the flag state of the ship at the time of building, not the USCG. The USCG can only inspect a foreign flag ship to ensure that SOLAS requirements are met. However, SOLAS does specify the requirements for what can constitute a muster station, including location, size, ingress and egress point numbers and sizes, ventilation, fire protection, lighting, etc. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted December 26, 2019 #15 Share Posted December 26, 2019 17 hours ago, Elaine5715 said: SOLAS sets the regulations of muster drills. Chief, this is my quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted December 26, 2019 #16 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, coevan said: Chief, this is my quote Yes, but you said that SOLAS does not specify the location of the drill, when it does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted December 26, 2019 #17 Share Posted December 26, 2019 so they tell Carnival if it's held indoors or outdoors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted December 26, 2019 #18 Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, coevan said: so they tell Carnival if it's held indoors or outdoors? They tell Carnival, via the class surveyor at design and building, that it needs to be as close to the boats as possible, and then based on the physical dimensions and other requirements that I outlined above, they determine whether it can be held outdoors (the preferred location), or indoors if there is not sufficient room on deck. It is only the newer ships with smaller promenade decks and larger passenger counts that have gone to indoor musters, because there is not sufficient space on deck. They don't specify the location of the drill, they specify the location of the muster station, which is where the drill is to be held. Edited December 26, 2019 by chengkp75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray98 Posted December 27, 2019 #19 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Glad Chief could clear this up. Some seem to think the drills were moved on the newer ships out of passenger comfort when it is really a deck space issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTribeFan Posted December 27, 2019 #20 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I had muster station F on Paradise a couple of weeks ago. I was in the buffet area anyway so managed to find a seat near Guy's so I wouldn't have to stand. Bad hip these days. Yes, I realize that you can request a special must area for mobility issues. On Sunshine at the end of October, it was still muster at the lifeboats. I did 3 consecutive MSC cruises (last December, this past May and September) and all those were indoors but you had to wear your lifevests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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