2020 Ships RIP

[Gr8Mariner]

I just realized that I have sailed on a dozen ships which are no longer in service for their original owners. Most were scrapped in 2020.

 

This too shall pass. 2022 should be a banner year!

[bcummin]

Rest in Peace dear ms Amsterdam, ms Rotterdam, ms Maasdam, and ms Veendam.

Barbara

[rkacruiser]

5 hours ago, bcummin said:

ms Amsterdam, ms Rotterdam

 

At least, Fred. Olsen Cruise Lines will still be sailing these good ships.  The other two?  Unsure what their future will be. 

[bcummin]

The ms Maasdam and ms Veendam are now Greek.

 

 

[kazu]

I will miss the Prinsendam the most (now wit Phoenix Riesen).

That was a huge loss to HAL IMO for it’s unique itineraries and sold before covid.
 

Sad to see all the S class ships go and 1/2 of the R class but let’s enjoy what’s left while they are there and hope that if the word was true in Gus A’s talk on itineraries, perhaps a new ship will be built or refurbished that is another small one.  Ok, everyone is allowed a dream 😉 

[rkacruiser]

1 hour ago, kazu said:

if the word was true in Gus A’s talk on itineraries, perhaps a new ship will be built or refurbished that is another small one.  Ok, everyone is allowed a dream 😉 

 

I share your thinking.  There's likely going to be a shake-out in the cruise industry post-Covid.  Where will the chips fall?  

 

I won't bet against HAL!  When one learns the Company's history, it has been a survivor for decades.  

[Alan2504]

19 hours ago, bcummin said:

 ms Maasdam, and ms Veendam.

 

I see Seajets have added these two to its portfolio, it now includes the Ryndam, Ocean Princess and Majesty of the Oceans

[Alan2504]

2 minutes ago, Alan2504 said:

I see Seajets have added these two to its portfolio, it now includes the Ryndam, Ocean Princess and Majesty of the Oceans

I meant to add they also acquired both the Magellan and  Columbus in 2020 but sadly sold them for scrap 

[iancal]

One thing to consider is that HAL is probably in a stronger financial position by disposing of these ships.  Covid no doubt  hastened their  inevitable departure from the fleet.

 

These ships were not discarded because they were big profit generators or were not in need of significant capital investment.  The opposite is probably why each was selected.

 

Given the unanticipated  length of the covid layup it would appear that HAL's decision to dispose of them was probably very fortuitous from a financial perspective.

Edited April 30, 2021 by iancal

[Sososailer]

3 hours ago, iancal said:

One thing to consider is that HAL is probably in a stronger financial position by disposing of these ships.  Covid no doubt  hastened their  inevitable departure from the fleet.

 

These ships were not discarded because they were big profit generators or were not in need of significant capital investment.  The opposite is probably why each was selected.

 

Given the unanticipated  length of the covid layup it would appear that HAL's decision to dispose of them was probably very fortuitous from a financial perspective.

Very true. Call us sentimental as we'll miss the Maasdam. We wanted to do at least one more cruise on her, but alas it was not meant to be. 😞

[FlaMariner]

Life goes on.....

 

Our first cruise was on Carnival's first cruise ship...the Mardi Gras and it's been long gone......and now I see they are bringing that ship name back with a new Carnival Mardi Gras.....We cherish the memories (and do feel old, but blessed) but certainly enjoy the ships we have sailed on since the first one...and we love our Holland America Line ships!

 

Smooth sailing......

[rkacruiser]

3 hours ago, FlaMariner said:

the Mardi Gras and it's been long gone......and now I see they are bringing that ship name back with a new Carnival Mardi Gras....

 

The brass of Carnival Corporation could not have foreseen the Covid pandemic or the cessation of cruising.  But, as cruising appears to be going to resume, the name of Mardi Gras for Carnival Cruise Lines newest ship signals the re-birth of the cruise industry.