Rare BlerkOne Posted June 2, 2021 #201 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Radiioman46 said: Even though FOOOCHi admits that he lied, the real question is "Why do ppl still believe in him?" It's like the, what is it? The Stockholm Syndrome? He is not even close to being crowned the king of liars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted June 2, 2021 #202 Share Posted June 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: He is not even close to being crowned the king of liars. Sure is putting up a good fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeebean Posted June 2, 2021 #203 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/1/2021 at 8:06 AM, ajm said: And buy some time to get a vaccination so not everyone has to get the virus. Lock downs were also designed to not overwhelm our health care system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeebean Posted June 2, 2021 #204 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/1/2021 at 10:36 AM, TNcruising02 said: Exactly! People were led to believe that masks made them safe, but many people got covid anyway. The only sure way to avoid covid was to avoid people and now get vaccinated. I think the biggest lie was that masks protected people. I think all it did was give people a false sense of security. People were NOT lead to believe masks protected them. Those home made and surgical masks are for source control (meaning droplets and aerosols are blocked by the masks to minimize transmission of the virus). I don't know where you get your information from but I was never informed that masks are to protect the people who wear them. In fact, the CDC, very early on told us that masks were to protect others around us. Don't you remember hearing that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted June 2, 2021 #205 Share Posted June 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, coffeebean said: Lock downs were also designed to not overwhelm our health care system. Yep. Never strict enough to stop a virus but just to slow it down and spread it out so millions more didn't die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeebean Posted June 2, 2021 #206 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/1/2021 at 1:56 PM, BlerkOne said: It helps save others. The idea of universal masking was that if EVERYONE wore a mask then everyone was protecting everyone else. Hence.....everyone would be protected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeebean Posted June 2, 2021 #207 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 hours ago, angelsfort said: I never understood that thinking... you're in your car, touching your face, touching everything - even your mask... suddenly you get out of your car to go into a grocery store and you put that mask on - then you're touching everything in the grocery store with the same hands that were exposed to your face just moments before even if you put some hand sanitizer on your hands, you've still got the same clothes on (that you haven't sanitized) and will likely be touching at some point during your trip in the store. Your hair also probably wasn't sanitized... Many people are also constantly adjusting their masks and unless you immediately sanitize your hands every time you touch your mask, or your hair or your clothes, you have just re-exposed your hands to whatever that mask is supposed to be keeping in... IMO masks have always been a false sense of security. Masks are meant to block droplets and aerosols. That is the basis of universal masking and source control. Simple enough concept. Another simple concept that was relayed to the American people very early on was DO NOT TOUCH YOUR FACE. Touching the mask has nothing to do with not touching your face. In fact, touching the mask prevented people from touching their eyes, nose and mouth. That mask was actually a way of reminding people to not touch their face (eyes, nose and mouth). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeebean Posted June 2, 2021 #208 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 hours ago, jperry2011 said: Fauci says otherwise. Your local drug store mask won't do anything to stop the spread of covid. Read his emails. Dr. Fauci has NOT said that. Please see this article with Dr. Fauci's email statments. You must have misconstrued his words. Read about it here...... Dr. Fauci said masks not really effective KEEPING OUT VIRUS In a nutshell.....Dr. Fauci is saying masks are NOT for protection but to keep an infected person from spreading the virus. The reason we were all told to wear masks is to protect others from someone who may be asymptomatic and not even be aware they could be spreading the virus. That mask blocks droplets and aerosols and minimizes transmission of the virus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamaone Posted June 2, 2021 #209 Share Posted June 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, coffeebean said: Dr. Fauci has NOT said that. Please see this article with Dr. Fauci's email statments. You must have misconstrued his words. Read about it here...... Dr. Fauci said masks not really effective KEEPING OUT VIRUS In a nutshell.....Dr. Fauci is saying masks are NOT for protection but to keep an infected person from spreading the virus. The reason we were all told to wear masks is to protect others from someone who may be asymptomatic and not even be aware they could be spreading the virus. That mask blocks droplets and aerosols and minimizes transmission of the virus. Who is Dr Fauci? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted June 2, 2021 #210 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, bamaone said: Who is Dr Fauci? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jperry2011 Posted June 2, 2021 #211 Share Posted June 2, 2021 20 minutes ago, coffeebean said: The reason we were all told to wear masks is to protect others from someone who may be asymptomatic and not even be aware they could be spreading the virus. That mask blocks droplets and aerosols and minimizes transmission of the virus. You don't read his emails enough I see.. Fauci said in one of them that asymptomatic rarely if ever spread the virus. He's a paid clown. Rich and Famous now for lying to us for a year. Constantly saying the opposite of what's true to the American people. How can you stand up for him?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jperry2011 Posted June 2, 2021 #212 Share Posted June 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, bamaone said: Who is Dr Fauci? A so called medical expert who sent our tax money through a third party to the Wuhan lab for "gain of function research" In other words he funded the virus being engineered and transmitted to people... If that isn't good enough his recent emails being released show he covered for the Chinese after the outbreak started while knowing exactly where it came from. He's the prototypical swamp creature. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted June 2, 2021 #213 Share Posted June 2, 2021 If people actually believe the US funded covid research, then that proves the Chinese were right and the US is responsible for the virus. Dr Fauci has dedicated his life to public health through administrations on both sides of the aisle and now in his 80s some are trying through character assassination to somehow discredit him. Intelligent people can see through that ruse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jperry2011 Posted June 2, 2021 #214 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: If people actually believe the US funded covid research, then that proves the Chinese were right and the US is responsible for the virus. Dr Fauci has dedicated his life to public health through administrations on both sides of the aisle and now in his 80s some are trying through character assassination to somehow discredit him. Intelligent people can see through that ruse. Fauci admitted to indirectly sending money to the Wuhan Lab. It's on video go watch it for yourself. They engineered Coronavirus to see the effects on humans. Whether it was leaked on accident or on purpose is another story. But he's selling books now and throwing out first pitches at MLB games. Fauci is rich and famous because of the virus. Don't be so blind to the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdr69 Posted June 2, 2021 #215 Share Posted June 2, 2021 5 hours ago, bdever said: CDC Cruise Guidelines Handbook? Theres a Handbook? Has it got that complicated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted June 2, 2021 #216 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, kdr69 said: Theres a Handbook? Has it got that complicated? Boy, isn't this going to be a bucket of monkeys when it resumes..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNcruising02 Posted June 2, 2021 #217 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, coffeebean said: People were NOT lead to believe masks protected them. Those home made and surgical masks are for source control (meaning droplets and aerosols are blocked by the masks to minimize transmission of the virus). I don't know where you get your information from but I was never informed that masks are to protect the people who wear them. In fact, the CDC, very early on told us that masks were to protect others around us. Don't you remember hearing that? Because many people were under the false impression that they were protected from getting covid if people wore masks. Why else were there covid deaths in states that had strict mask mandates? Obviously, high risk people thought they were safe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted June 2, 2021 #218 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, jperry2011 said: Fauci admitted to indirectly sending money to the Wuhan Lab. It's on video go watch it for yourself. They engineered Coronavirus to see the effects on humans. Whether it was leaked on accident or on purpose is another story. But he's selling books now and throwing out first pitches at MLB games. Fauci is rich and famous because of the virus. Don't be so blind to the truth. He threw out one pitch, not pitches. See? I'm not blind. Fauci was famous before, and earns his salary, especially given the crap he has to put up with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdever Posted June 2, 2021 #219 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, kdr69 said: Theres a Handbook? Has it got that complicated? Apologies 🤣 I was referring to the “Covid-19 Operations Manual for Simulated and Restricted Voyages under the CSO” https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/covid19-operations-manual-cso.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdr69 Posted June 2, 2021 #220 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, bdever said: Apologies 🤣 I was referring to the “Covid-19 Operations Manual for Simulated and Restricted Voyages under the CSO” https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/covid19-operations-manual-cso.html oh whew. 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdever Posted June 2, 2021 #221 Share Posted June 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, bdever said: Apologies 🤣 I was referring to the “Covid-19 Operations Manual for Simulated and Restricted Voyages under the CSO” https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/covid19-operations-manual-cso.html Maybe Carnival will provide us with cute souvenir 🥰 limited Restart Edition manuals in the form of handbooks at embarkation! That would be kinda awesome 🤩 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNcruising02 Posted June 2, 2021 #222 Share Posted June 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, bdever said: Maybe Carnival will provide us with cute souvenir 🥰 limited Restart Edition manuals in the form of handbooks at embarkation! That would be kinda awesome 🤩 Maybe the new platinum gift will be a lanyard with a mask on the end. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdever Posted June 2, 2021 #223 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, TNcruising02 said: Maybe the new platinum gift will be a lanyard with a mask on the end. I’m a sucker for practical swag!!!! Love ❤️ it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted June 2, 2021 #224 Share Posted June 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, bdever said: Maybe Carnival will provide us with cute souvenir 🥰 limited Restart Edition manuals in the form of handbooks at embarkation! That would be kinda awesome 🤩 'kinda' being the operative word.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNcruising02 Posted June 2, 2021 #225 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, bdever said: I’m a sucker for practical swag!!!! Love ❤️ it! It would be practical too. That way you wouldn't need to find a place to put your mask when you temporarily take it off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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