Richard Fain, RCG CEO, discusses vaccination strategies during restart of cruising

[jrapps]

9 minutes ago, harkinmr said:

So what do they do?  Throw the unvaccinated overboard?

 

Seriously.  It’s a little late at that point to ask for proof.  

Un-vaccinated cruisers get a free life-jacket with purchase

[BSocial]

29 minutes ago, dswallow said:

 

I didn't catch the significance of that one, but I do think many parts of this video were very carefully worded.

this part had me shaking my head:

 

”It’s a bit like litter. If I drop a piece of litter on the ground, it makes an insignificant impact on the environment. But if a lot of people drop litter, the cumulative impact is enormous. The same thing’s true of vaccines.”

 

 

[jrapps]

38 minutes ago, shutterbug63 said:

 

That makes sense. Once they're out of Florida, Florida's restrictions about vaccines don't apply. I didn't think of that.

I interpreted this line as "you don't need a vaccine to board the ship" but all the bars, casinos, buffets, flow riders, mini golf, theaters, etc all require vaccines. So you can board, you just cant do much once you get there.

[coldflame]

11 minutes ago, jrapps said:

I interpreted this line as "you don't need a vaccine to board the ship" but all the bars, casinos, buffets, flow riders, mini golf, theaters, etc all require vaccines. So you can board, you just cant do much once you get there.

 

I feel y'all are reading way too much between the lines -- specially when he repeats this all could change in a week. No point on speculating what restrictions, costs, etc. when I don't believe even RCL even knows this -- they're still trying to figure out what would be the best experience and logistics for every one.

[jrapps]

Just now, coldflame said:

 

I feel y'all are reading way too much between the lines -- specially when he repeats this all could change in a week. No point on speculating what restrictions, costs, etc. when I don't believe even RCL even knows this -- they're still trying to figure out what would be the best experience and logistics for every one.

You are right, we're just havin fun with it. Its all pure speculation...I just have nothing better to do with my time right now, LOL

[Dat Cruisin Couple]

[BSocial]

@dswallow, thank you so much for the transcript !

[SherriZ366]

1 hour ago, dswallow said:

 

Simple. Worst case, once they sail, they require showing proof of vaccination to obtain something that provides those privileges.

 

More likely there's nothing prohibiting them to make an offer up front for voluntary compliance to provide something.

 

 

1 hour ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Proof could be required to avoid being marked as untouchable

I wonder if we could be required to upload pictures or scans of our CDC vaccine cards when we do our Set Sail pass.  

Another thought -- possibly off the wall -- could be to ask vaccinated passengers to upload aa picture or scan to a non-Florida office (is the Oregon call center still open) 

[rabidstoat]

The CDC order does say that areas can be designated for vaccinated people only, and then the restrictions wouldn't have to apply in those areas. 

 

That seems like it wouuld go over really, really poorly. Especially if it wasn't broadcast well in advance. Imagine going on a cruise where you were told vaccinations weren't required and then suddenly learning that only 10% of the ship was accessible by you. 

[John&LaLa]

55 minutes ago, BSocial said:

this part had me shaking my head:

 

”It’s a bit like litter. If I drop a piece of litter on the ground, it makes an insignificant impact on the environment. But if a lot of people drop litter, the cumulative impact is enormous. The same thing’s true of vaccines.”

 

 

 

I like that part

[not-enough-cruising]

1 hour ago, shutterbug63 said:

There's one thing I'm not understanding about this.  It was my understanding that the Florida law prohibits Royal from requiring proof of vaccination to board the ship.  But the way I read it, it doesn't prohibit them from asking if someone has had the vaccine. If that's the case but no proof has to be shown, then nothing's stopping someone from lying.  It's basically the honor system. So how then would they differentiate between vaccinated and unvaccinated passengers?  Maybe I'm making a mountain of  a molehill here, but it does bring a question to my mind.

They could say "if you would like to avoid this $350 COVID test, we will accept your vaccine card as a waiver; by the way there will be another $350 COVID test on days 3 and 6 as well."

[John&LaLa]

1 hour ago, harkinmr said:

So what do they do?  Throw the unvaccinated overboard?

 

Seriously.  It’s a little late at that point to ask for proof.  

 

It's just a problem if you lied about being vaccinated vs telling truth at boarding 

[graphicguy]

1 hour ago, dswallow said:

 

Simple. Worst case, once they sail, they require showing proof of vaccination to obtain something that provides those privileges.

 

More likely there's nothing prohibiting them to make an offer up front for voluntary compliance to provide something.

 

Kind of what I was thinking.  I just think they’ll ignore the FL issue, entirely and let it play out in court.

 

But, you get an electronic bracelet if you’re vaccinated.  No bracelet?  You’re wearing a mask in public spaces and being tested in other spaces (which will have a charge associated with it).

[John&LaLa]

1 hour ago, mauraoel said:

SMH, Actually the majority of the unvaccinated will be the third and fourth passenger in a couple of vaccinated passengers stateroom.

 

My kids had their own room😉

[jrapps]

1 minute ago, not-enough-cruising said:

They could say "if you would like to avoid this $350 COVID test, we will accept your vaccine card as a waiver; by the way there will be another $350 COVID test on days 3 and 6 as well."

For a cabin of 2 who are un-vaccinated, that is an extra $2100 for a 7 day cruise. Yep, that will ensure everyone has a vaccine alright!

[John&LaLa]

1 hour ago, erinsmom03 said:

 

Additional costs AND restrictions...

 

Nice work

[SherriZ366]

3 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

They could say "if you would like to avoid this $350 COVID test, we will accept your vaccine card as a waiver; by the way there will be another $350 COVID test on days 3 and 6 as well."

Cool idea 😄

[harkinmr]

2 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

It's just a problem if you lied about being vaccinated vs telling truth at boarding 

Ok.  So if you lied, then can we throw you overboard?

[John&LaLa]

Just now, harkinmr said:

Ok.  So if you lied, then can we throw you overboard?

 

No, but you can put me off ship or confine to quarantine 

[harkinmr]

Just now, John&LaLa said:

 

No, but you can put me off ship or confine to quarantine 

How about the brig?  Can we send you to the brig?

[jrapps]

1 minute ago, harkinmr said:

Ok.  So if you lied, then can we throw you overboard?

Thank for for lying on your form. Here is a consolation life vest. Have a nice day.

[John&LaLa]

1 minute ago, harkinmr said:

How about the brig?  Can we send you to the brig?

 

No, quarantine are is fine. Brig will be full of violent offenders. Space is limited.

 

But it's a moot point. I only lie to my wife😉

[Sunshine3601]

10 minutes ago, graphicguy said:

Kind of what I was thinking.  I just think they’ll ignore the FL issue, entirely and let it play out in court.

 

But, you get an electronic bracelet if you’re vaccinated.  No bracelet?  You’re wearing a mask in public spaces and being tested in other spaces (which will have a charge associated with it).

Can we do the reverse and make the non vaxxer where the bracelets/bracelets.  

I dont want to wear the stupid bracelet and have those tan lines.  I 

[jrapps]

1 minute ago, Sunshine3601 said:

Can we do the reverse and make the non vaxxer where the bracelets/bracelets.  

I dont want to wear the stupid bracelet and have those tan lines.  I 

No, they will just take it off.

[John&LaLa]

7 minutes ago, jrapps said:

No, they will just take it off.

 

Good point