9/5 Glory Cancelled

[GaryAha]

38 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

Sorry.

No worries. Carnival is issuing full refunds. United just redeposited miles and refunded the taxes. Now to cancel the pre/post hotel reservations.

[keels81]

On 9/2/2021 at 8:57 AM, gtalum said:

 

I wouldn't be that pessimistic.  Once they get power back the cruising will resume. The French Quarter didn't take much damage form the storm and they need the revenue.

 

The power grid is still down for lots of areas of the city that provide the workforce for the "French Quarter" that "didn't take much damage" and "need the revenue". 

 

Grocery stores are barren and only open from 10a-4p(ish). Milk, bread, eggs, and other sustainable items are non-existent.

 

In fact, most people that have evacuated -- by my count of neighbors and friends -- are only NOW starting to think about returning and will probably wait it out another week as FEMA has started giving out hotel vouchers and stay reimbursements through the middle of the month.

 

And then we can talk about our friends at Sewage & Water Board who have asked restaurants, hotels and other places to not run large-scale dishwashers or laundry facilities because that amount of water disposal could cause the precarious system to fail (it's been holding strong) and start sending sewage backup into the streets -- including the French Quarter.

 

And then there's the police force still out enforcing a nightly 8p-6a curfew because there's a gasoline and basic needs shortage while places still don't have supplies and power and internet.

 

I don't see cruises happening until at least October at the earliest. 

[Dadofsix]

I agree with keels81. Once power is restored then many other basic infrastructure has to be restored. Cell towers, 911 centers, phone lines, internet to connect everyone ect won't even start in areas until power is made safe and restored. It's not a snap your fingers and its done kinda thing, been there, done that through a number of hurricanes over the years. Big problem is that the massive amounts of workers needed to restore basic services need places to stay because I for one dont consider sleeping in my truck for months on end. Post Katrina utility people spent MONTHS living in circus tents on the northshore with porta pottys trying to get the area somewhat restored. My people with boots on the ground now say finding gas is a huge problem by itself and some people think we need to bring tourists back in the next week or so? Yeah I dont think so

[BlerkOne]

The New Orleans port is much more than a cruise ship or two, and is beyond essential to America. The port reopened about 12 days after Katrina, when New Orleans was in far worse shape than now.

 

Of course they can get supplies into the area and the river is one way of doing it. Cruise ships don't run on gasoline so they aren't taking fuel away from anyone. AFAIK, the airport is at least partially open.

 

The hardest hit areas by Ida are quite a drive from New Orleans and I can't imagine workers wanting to drive an hour or three each way daily. After Katrina, the first responders didn't think much of living in cruise ships. The casino, bars, and entertainment are closed or gone and basically you are stuck in small rooms without even local TV channels. Or any decent TV.

 

But really, if New Orleans doesn't want cruise ships, Gulfport, Mobile, or Houston probably could step up.

Edited September 8, 2021 by BlerkOne

[keels81]

27 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

The New Orleans port is much more than a cruise ship or two, and is beyond essential to America. The port reopened about 12 days after Katrina, when New Orleans was in far worse shape than now.

 

Of course they can get supplies into the area and the river is one way of doing it. Cruise ships don't run on gasoline so they aren't taking fuel away from anyone. AFAIK, the airport is at least partially open.

 

The hardest hit areas by Ida are quite a drive from New Orleans and I can't imagine workers wanting to drive an hour or three each way daily. After Katrina, the first responders didn't think much of living in cruise ships. The casino, bars, and entertainment are closed or gone and basically you are stuck in small rooms without even local TV channels. Or any decent TV.

 

But really, if New Orleans doesn't want cruise ships, Gulfport, Mobile, or Houston probably could step up.

 

What part of New Orleans did you live in for Katrina and what part do you live in now?

 

It's ridiculous to say that supplies would come up the river to support cruise ships when people in the region and metro area are still without basic needs even though they have power.

 

Also, linemen don't drive "in and out" on a daily basis. Laplace is 38 minutes from the Port of New Orleans. Houma is an hour, given weather and traffic. These are the hardest hit, most populated areas outside of the metro.

 

New Orleans can't handle cruise ships right now other than to have them house frontline workers, linemen and first responders. The port is open, but the terminals and convention center are being used by FEMA for cooling shelters, relocation and transportation and even temporary housing.

 

I know you don't live here -- most of y'all on this thread don't -- so you're lucky to not have to depend on things like the street car or a bus to get you to work (if its open). Those are barely working now and people still don't have power, so they are relying on these mass spaces like the port and the convention center (which are the same thing) for air conditioning and basic needs.

 

Most hotels are filled with local evacuees and other frontline workers. They've also been asked not to run mass services like laundry and dishwashing because it WILL overpower the sewage system and back raw sewage up through the catch basins and into the streets.

 

The airport is only open to flights under or around 90 minutes and it has to be a fully staffed turn with no catering or refueling needed, and that's only for airlines that have airport-based crew that didn't evacuate with their families. So, yeah, the airport isn't there for your pleasure currently. Maybe in October.

 

This wasn't Katrina, thank God, but it isn't anything to joke about. People actually left this time, and are in no hurry to return when they can't even live reasonable life. They certainly don't care if your cruise gets canceled or not.

 

But hey, Oceana will always be open for y'all.

[scpirate]

I just read carnival rented out the glory for a couple weeks as a floating hotel. I guess joe biden pays better than you people do.

[BlerkOne]

39 minutes ago, keels81 said:

 

 

It's ridiculous to say that supplies would come up the river to support cruise ships when people in the region and metro area are still without basic needs even though they have power.

 

Not really, but New Orleans isn't the only Gulf Coast cruise port. Don't worry. I've purchased and sent supplies to the Houma area and probably will again, but I can't compete with ships, trains,  trucks, and swamp crawlers.

 

39 minutes ago, keels81 said:

 

 

 

[timbom]

Just got off holding one and a half hours for the casino department and was able to change my New Orleans cruise on 26 to Galveston on 25   Just did not feel right about leaving from NO.  Also FCF was cancelled which was the main reason to sail NO .