the penguins Posted December 16, 2021 #276 Share Posted December 16, 2021 14 hours ago, HMR74 said: There is still a benefit, I think. When we go on family cruises on Royal, we get free drink coupons. I have not checked to see if there are any changes on that. That BTw at around $10 a drink is worth 700 in saved $ on a 7 day holiday cruise, On Royal yes, on X now no which is the point. AI pricing on X has destroyed most of the CC benefits. X has acknowledged this but so far has done almost nothing to correct it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted December 16, 2021 #277 Share Posted December 16, 2021 13 hours ago, HMR74 said: by carryover, do you mean you get your daily allotment and it does not carry over to the next day? Correct. Use or lose them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted December 16, 2021 #278 Share Posted December 16, 2021 6 hours ago, the penguins said: On Royal yes, on X now no which is the point. AI pricing on X has destroyed most of the CC benefits. X has acknowledged this but so far has done almost nothing to correct it. Not all cruises offer AI. So on those cruises the CC perks/benefits are still good. Currently the only perk/benefit not being offered is the nightly CC HH in the Sky Lounge. That may return. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo1953 Posted December 16, 2021 #279 Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 5:16 PM, LGW59 said: He is a travel agent, always TCB Does that mean 'discounted' sailings, which most of us do not have access too? bon voyage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted December 16, 2021 #280 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, the penguins said: On Royal yes, on X now no which is the point. AI pricing on X has destroyed most of the CC benefits. X has acknowledged this but so far has done almost nothing to correct it. You know what? We can only do so much with what's been given to us viz a viz policies. in other words, it is what it is. Sometimes we have to remember that. Although it is fun to try to get things changed. We all have our own points where we will say no to something, just because. My points are rather inconsistent and I know it. For the most part, just give me the rules, so I can have the fun of gaming the rules. Edited December 16, 2021 by HMR74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny01 Posted December 16, 2021 #281 Share Posted December 16, 2021 18 hours ago, zitsky said: You folks might want to look at Viking. Not sure if they have status but there is good customer service. Just as in the case of X, Viking has issues. Booked two cruises on their new Expedition ship crossing the Great Lakes, starting from Thunder Bay , ON to Milwaukee, then the 2nd cruise from Milwaukee to Toronto. Many months later, I saw on the Viking Forum that a person was contacted by Viking that this type of cruise was considered going from a Canadian port and ending in another and told her she couldn’t do that. They hadn’t contacted me on this, so I had my TA contact them and yup, they said even though I’d booked two cruises, it was defined as one, and we couldn’t do that. Two months later, another poster on Viking forum said she’d just been contacted by Viking with the same issue. So Viking wasn’t proactive on this at all, and it was a mess losing one of the cruises because how Viking set it up, And they didn’t contact any of us for a long time….heck, I was the one who contacted them. So we all get upset whenever things aren’t done we think are basic, and it appears Each Cruise Line has issues. Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted December 16, 2021 #282 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) Keep this in mind-if you have noticed, inflation is running high on a global basis.Italy has a 20% annual run rate based on last 3 months-yes energy costs which trickle down all over. Our Fed Govt Tuesday reported inflation at producers level has a 15% annual run rate. My point is all businesses are concerned with maintaining margins especially after the lockdowns. and many sectors are cash strapped. Viking is privately owned so thay can make a decision to take a temporary hit to Cash flow and P&L which ends up in stock price. RCL , Carnival, and the others are mostly publically traded and they need to avoid seeing stock prices decline-lifeblood of financing. They have a lot of balls up in the air and some will fall. Their ultimate goal is to get back to capacity and operating margins pre covid. THis double digit inflation issue is another big issue for cruise lines. Just for food, oil and labor. Fain before he announced his retirement looked like he had taken a beating. Edited December 16, 2021 by HMR74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGW59 Posted December 16, 2021 #283 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Bo1953 said: Does that mean 'discounted' sailings, which most of us do not have access too? bon voyage Not discounted for me, I made the bookings myself with Celebrity, then transferred to the TA. The difference was the amount of refundable OBC he is providing in addition to the non-refundable I get from Celebrity. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted December 16, 2021 #284 Share Posted December 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, LGW59 said: Not discounted for me, I made the bookings myself with Celebrity, then transferred to the TA. The difference was the amount of refundable OBC he is providing in addition to the non-refundable I get from Celebrity. thats generally what I see and get. I could get a bit more from smaller TA's, however I am concerned about service level. Everything in life is a trade off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zitsky Posted December 16, 2021 #285 Share Posted December 16, 2021 For my last cruise I just booked, the TA is matching what Celebrity is giving for OBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted December 16, 2021 #286 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, zitsky said: For my last cruise I just booked, the TA is matching what Celebrity is giving for OBC. Last year my TA, in error, sent me their commission statemnet, perhaps it was intentional. There were two parts, one general commission and the second was tied to incentivizeg them for class of service. What I have not seen is price discounts when a TA buys a number of cabins. All I can say is what the TA gives me was fair all things considered. With prior TA's where I received out of this world discounts and refundable OBC, I could not get the responsiveness to questions or even calls. Not worth it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted December 16, 2021 #287 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) I am looking right now to compare a 2022 spring transatlantic vs the last one we took in 2019 spring. Aqua class we paid 3250 or so in 2019, plus drinks and internet, and now its 5500, plus 450 gratuities, and I think but not sure classic drinks and basic internet is included. It looks like X just changed its methods. This is a 4/18 transatlantic on Reflection. vs 2019 was infinity both in Aqua 1. It has become confusing, especially now they are going to refundable there is a 3200 upcharge for the cabin above the 5500 above. Going to go look at myexistng cruises not to see how they are changing if at all. Edited December 16, 2021 by HMR74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdn_tbird Posted December 16, 2021 #288 Share Posted December 16, 2021 59 minutes ago, HMR74 said: I am looking right now to compare a 2022 spring transatlantic vs the last one we took in 2019 spring. Aqua class we paid 3250 or so in 2019, plus drinks and internet, and now its 5500, plus 450 gratuities, and I think but not sure classic drinks and basic internet is included. It looks like X just changed its methods. This is a 4/18 transatlantic on Reflection. vs 2019 was infinity both in Aqua 1. It has become confusing, especially now they are going to refundable there is a 3200 upcharge for the cabin above the 5500 above. Going to go look at myexistng cruises not to see how they are changing if at all. I noticed the same insane amount to go refundable, and that has me convinced there are errors that will be cleaned up over the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted December 16, 2021 #289 Share Posted December 16, 2021 x needs to work on improvng its systems. when I get a drink at one of the stations, I take note that somewhere its put in my permanent record and they know how much more they make on me with a drinks package, or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo1953 Posted December 16, 2021 #290 Share Posted December 16, 2021 5 hours ago, LGW59 said: Not discounted for me, I made the bookings myself with Celebrity, then transferred to the TA. The difference was the amount of refundable OBC he is providing in addition to the non-refundable I get from Celebrity. L - the comment was not about your bookings, only towards the response where you indicated that poster was a TA... bon voyage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGW59 Posted December 16, 2021 #291 Share Posted December 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bo1953 said: L - the comment was not about your bookings, only towards the response where you indicated that poster was a TA... bon voyage What???? It is always (or should be) about ME, Bo! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zitsky Posted December 16, 2021 #292 Share Posted December 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, LGW59 said: What???? It is always (or should be) about ME, Bo! Wait just a minute...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted December 16, 2021 #293 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I am just confused about the usage of TA-Transatlantic, Travel Agent, Teachers Asst. Tough Apples. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny01 Posted December 16, 2021 #294 Share Posted December 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, HMR74 said: I am just confused about the usage of TA-Transatlantic, Travel Agent, Teachers Asst. Tough Apples. Travel Advisor, Trans Am, Tantalum (an element!), and somebody told me the Brits use ‘Ta’ as ‘Thanks’. den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasset Posted December 16, 2021 #295 Share Posted December 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Denny01 said: Travel Advisor, Trans Am, Tantalum (an element!), and somebody told me the Brits use ‘Ta’ as ‘Thanks’. den That is why I hate abbreviations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted December 16, 2021 #296 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Trans Am should have been obvious, I missed it. 'Ta' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGW59 Posted December 16, 2021 #297 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 minute ago, sasset said: That is why I hate abbreviations. Me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny01 Posted December 16, 2021 #298 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) I hate them too, but I Lv TA’s on X E-Class in an IV SR dining in all of the 4 MDRs….or a nice SS! den Edited December 16, 2021 by Denny01 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted December 17, 2021 #299 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I had a '63 SS 427CI dual quad carb. I'm gonna go listen to the Beach boys and Jan and Dean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare markeb Posted December 17, 2021 #300 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Denny01 said: I hate them too, but I Lv TA’s on X E-Class in an IV SR dining in all of the 4 MDRs….or a nice SS! den Need acronyms. Nothing says succes like putting together a complete sentence of acronyms. Bonus points for embedded acronyms! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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