Are Carnival buffets self-serve?

[bobkins40]

On 12/16/2021 at 11:02 AM, sparks1093 said:

It may be less sanitary, but I've been eating from buffets (land and sea) for at least 5 decades and have never gotten sick from one.

and during covid it is not a good practice ! 

[sparks1093]

8 minutes ago, bobkins40 said:

and during covid it is not a good practice ! 

From what I've read COVID doesn't transfer that well from surfaces so I'll chance it.

[jimbo5544]

1 hour ago, sparks1093 said:

From what I've read COVID doesn't transfer that well from surfaces so I'll chance it.

Bingo

[jimbo5544]

2 hours ago, bobkins40 said:

and during covid it is not a good practice ! 

Done 4 since cruising returns went to Lido all 4 (as well as buffets on 4 land trips.  Washy washy before you go in and before you eat there is nothing to worry about.  

[Pellaz]

On 12/19/2021 at 7:03 PM, Elkins45 said:

I’m on the Glory right now and they aren’t even trying to get people to wash or sanitize their hands. I didn’t even see hand sanitizer stations available, but I’ll look again when I go for breakfast.

 

MSC and Celebrity are both doing a better job of trying to keep people healthy IMO, even if it’s only an illusion.

 

Yes, it's basically an illusion, as I noted in Post #38.    With CDC's guidance on surface contact in clear context, it amounts to virtue-signaling by the cruise lines.  

[DrSea]

10 hours ago, Pellaz said:

 

Yes, it's basically an illusion, as I noted in Post #38.    With CDC's guidance on surface contact in clear context, it amounts to virtue-signaling by the cruise lines.  

It's not virtue signalling when it protects you from norovirus and other food borne illness.

 

I have personally had to treat pts with norovirus before with IV fluids. Not a big deal when dealing with a nursing home and like 20 people. But it's an issue when you have hundreds/thousands of people spraying from both ends explosively.

[Pellaz]

18 hours ago, DrSea said:

It's not virtue signalling when it protects you from norovirus and other food borne illness.

 

I have personally had to treat pts with norovirus before with IV fluids. Not a big deal when dealing with a nursing home and like 20 people. But it's an issue when you have hundreds/thousands of people spraying from both ends explosively.

 

Right, and cruise lines have had standard norovirus sanitation protocols in place for decades.  Those protocols do indeed call for crew-served buffets and enhanced cleaning procedures during and after a noro outbreak on a ship (I've experienced this myself)...but they are not necessary, just suggested by CDC's fomite results, for a COVID situation.

 

When did you encounter "thousands" of cruise people with noro?   

CDC's Vessel Sanitation Program shows that most norovirus outbreaks on cruises are quite limited in number:  

https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/gilist.htm  

 

Also, CDC's discussion of norovirus aboard cruise ships is notably muted:  https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/pub/norovirus/norovirus.htm  

 

 

Edited December 24, 2021 by Pellaz

[DrSea]

On 12/23/2021 at 10:44 PM, Pellaz said:

 

Right, and cruise lines have had standard norovirus sanitation protocols in place for decades.  Those protocols do indeed call for crew-served buffets and enhanced cleaning procedures during and after a noro outbreak on a ship (I've experienced this myself)...but they are not necessary, just suggested by CDC's fomite results, for a COVID situation.

 

When did you encounter "thousands" of cruise people with noro?   

CDC's Vessel Sanitation Program shows that most norovirus outbreaks on cruises are quite limited in number:  

https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/gilist.htm  

 

Also, CDC's discussion of norovirus aboard cruise ships is notably muted:  https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/pub/norovirus/norovirus.htm  

 

 

I didn't encounter hundreds/thousands of cases. I am not a cruise ship doctor (yet). I am based in the US. But it can happen with cruise ships. I would prefer served buffets d/t people grabbing food with their bare hands and putting it back. Gross.

[LakeWobegon]

On 12/22/2021 at 3:24 PM, jimbo5544 said:

Done 4 since cruising returns went to Lido all 4 (as well as buffets on 4 land trips.  Washy washy before you go in and before you eat there is nothing to worry about.  

This. Pre-covid, we've always mandated everyone go and wash up after settting their food on the table from the buffett. There are plenty of hand washing stations that make it fast and convenient. I also agree with the health experts that say getting COVID from contacting surfaces is extremely rare. It's contracted via the air you breathe.

[normandes]

On 12/16/2021 at 6:20 PM, DrSea said:

I do prefer different cruise lines. 

 

To all the commenters about those being concerned about sanitation as being germaphobes, my simple response is this...Norovirus. 

 

-DrSea- 

 

[Wennfred]

Are Carnival buffets self-serve?
 

At least onboard Panorama yes, can’t tell you about all other ships.

 

Fred

[Guest BasicSailor]

2 hours ago, Wennfred said:

Are Carnival buffets self-serve?
 

At least onboard Panorama yes, can’t tell you about all other ships.

 

Fred

Fred, good to see you posting again 👍. Buffets on Carnival ships as of this posting are self-serving. Exception, the horrid bacon police.

Edited December 27, 2021 by BasicSailor
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[Wennfred]

13 minutes ago, BasicSailor said:

Fred, good to see you posting again 👍. Buffets on Carnival ships as of this posting are self-serving. Exception, the horrid bacon police.

Ok big tip here guys, I had Bacon every day for brunch, that’s where they hid the bacon. LoL

 

Thanks BasicSailor, it’s good to be back as I started to cruise again.

 

Fred