kitkat343 Posted May 10, 2023 #1 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Hi, a RC cruise that is currently sailing was scheduled to visit Israel, and has been diverted due to the geopolitical situation. They are visiting Santorini. I thought in the past there were ferries to bypass the cable car/donkey situation - are any of them running or do you have any suggestions since these poor people already lost out on their dream cruise to the Holy Land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkaczanowski Posted May 10, 2023 #2 Share Posted May 10, 2023 I appreciate you asking the question. Currently on Odyssey now and scrambling to find tours for Santorini and Chania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom4mom Posted May 10, 2023 #3 Share Posted May 10, 2023 From what I’ve read, the only way to avoid the cable car/donkeys is to take a ship excursion that offers R/T bus after taking their tender to the west side of the island. I booked Oia on Your Own for my cruise in Nov. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piper77 Posted May 10, 2023 #4 Share Posted May 10, 2023 A few years I did this local boat - takes you to Oia then back to Fira. You still have to get back down to shore, but we had no issues walking down. Ended up being a relaxing day walking around and eating https://transfer-to-oia.gr/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlandz09 Posted May 11, 2023 #5 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Their website says they have no availability for the next three months. Does that seem right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piper77 Posted May 11, 2023 #6 Share Posted May 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, jlandz09 said: Their website says they have no availability for the next three months. Does that seem right? Maybe they just aren't taking reservations? I can't recall if we booked ahead or not (I'm a planner) but do recall that you could just walk up and book a seat on the next boat leaving. Their little shop is right at the base are of where our tender let us off. Hope things work out for you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlandz09 Posted May 11, 2023 #7 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Is it a kind of situation where everyone just immediately heads to the cable car without thinking about the boat because the cable car is cheaper? Our plan is to do the Fira-Oia hike, but we're worried that we will not get an early enough tender ticket. For example, if we make it up to Fira and start the hike by 3, we could reasonable expect to be in Oia by 6-6:15 is my understanding. Problem is that we then need to make it back to Fira and my estimate is that we would need to be in line for the cable car by around 7 in order to feel assured we will make the last tender back at 8:30. The alternative would be that we take the fast boat to Oia, explore Oia first, and then do the hike back to Fira instead. Downside here is that the hike is uphill when you do it in reverse back to Fira. Just hate that so much is unknown and reliant on how early we can get off the ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Milhouse Posted May 11, 2023 #8 Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, jlandz09 said: Our plan is to do the Fira-Oia hike, but we're worried that we will not get an early enough tender ticket. For example, if we make it up to Fira and start the hike by 3, we could reasonable expect to be in Oia by 6-6:15 is my understanding. Problem is that we then need to make it back to Fira and my estimate is that we would need to be in line for the cable car by around 7 in order to feel assured we will make the last tender back at 8:30. Your day in port is going to obviously be a bit different but here's a bit of colour on the timelines we experienced to help with your analysis: Looking back at my notes, the trip we did the hike, we arrived in Santorini at 2pm and sailaway was at 9pm. We queued to get off the ship as early as possible so I think the wait for the cable car wasn't too bad; maybe 20-30mins(?). I think we got to Oia around 6:15-6:30pm but probably could have gotten in earlier if we didn't linger at as many spots as we did along the hike. We didn't have a lot of time in Oia before we felt we needed to head back. There are quite a few pathways and viewpoints around Oia to explore. And everyone jockeys for the perfect spot to watch the sunset. On this trip, we only had time to explore a few parts but we didn't feel we missed out because we did a bunch of exploring and watched the sunset during our first visit. We took a bus back just after 7pm and it was packed, including people standing in the aisle. Not the most comfortable trip. Journey time was just under 30mins. After getting back to the bus station in Fira, we had to try to follow the signs (on walls and steps) back to the cable car (before making the decision to run down the donkey path in the dark because the queue was so long). I guess my suggestion is to try to leave yourself with enough time to get back, otherwise it can be somewhat frantic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ine Posted May 11, 2023 #9 Share Posted May 11, 2023 At the tender dock you will find boats offering transportation to Oia. They sail after their boat is filled, so sometimes it takes some time. It is one way only. So either walk back to Fira, get a local bus or cab. Going back to the ship is only the cable car (often long lines so be there in time!) or walk down the donkey trail (can be slippery and not smelling nice). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted May 13, 2023 #10 Share Posted May 13, 2023 The major problem with the OP's plan is transportation back from Oia (to Fira). If you are going to use the bus (which does not run as often as one would expect) or rely on the availability of a last minute taxi at Oia, than one is running a risk of not getting back to Fira with enough time to get down to the tender pier. Also keep in mind that even in Fira, the bus or taxi can not drop you right at the cable car station so you need additional time to walk (and hopefully not get lost). My advice to the OP is to revise your plan so you have more time to get from Oia back to Fira. Hank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishing on a star Posted May 15, 2023 #11 Share Posted May 15, 2023 I am thinking that they are not operating with online sales. As the site mentions, this service is offered, according to demand, when cruise ships are arriving below Fira. I have always heard that they will depart for Ammoudi Bay once the boat is full. Which, as mentioned, could take some time. I just wish that we could hear from somebody, now that the cruise season has begun, that can verify that they did see this ferry boat operating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MeganGC1983 Posted May 15, 2023 #12 Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Wishing on a star said: I am thinking that they are not operating with online sales. As the site mentions, this service is offered, according to demand, when cruise ships are arriving below Fira. I have always heard that they will depart for Ammoudi Bay once the boat is full. Which, as mentioned, could take some time. I just wish that we could hear from somebody, now that the cruise season has begun, that can verify that they did see this ferry boat operating! On other social sites, it’s been verified that they are running the water shuttle to Ammoudi for 30 euros a person. They said it includes a bus back to Fira. YMMV but they were talking about it. I’ll be there 3 weeks from today, so we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted May 15, 2023 #13 Share Posted May 15, 2023 3 hours ago, MeganGC1983 said: On other social sites, it’s been verified that they are running the water shuttle to Ammoudi for 30 euros a person. They said it includes a bus back to Fira. YMMV but they were talking about it. I’ll be there 3 weeks from today, so we shall see. o Our advice has always been to use some common sense and have a Plan B in case the boat option is not promising. You will not know, for sure, until you are actually on the pier. If there is a boat, and it is pretty full, you are probably going to have a good experience. If the boat is only partially full, you might want to have a chat with the operator about "when will you be leaving for Oia?." As to Plan B, for most that would mean taking the cable car up to Fira. You can later walk to the main bus station and take the bus to Oia or grab a taxi from the adjacent (to the bus station) main taxi parking area. Hank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John Bull Posted May 16, 2023 #14 Share Posted May 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Hlitner said: or donkey As to Plan B, for most that would mean taking the cable car ^ up to Fira. . Hank JB 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted May 16, 2023 #15 Share Posted May 16, 2023 5 hours ago, John Bull said: JB 🙂 I would buy you a Guinness if it would get you on one of those beasts. :); Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John Bull Posted May 16, 2023 #16 Share Posted May 16, 2023 50 minutes ago, Hlitner said: I would buy you a Guinness if it would get you on one of those beasts. :); Then you already owe me a pint, Hank.😛 And another for Julie - she deserves one, a donkey alongside her pooped on her leg while going up. Everyone thought it was hilarious 🤣🤣🤣 Well, everyone except her 🤣 But you know that neither of us would touch that evil black Irish potcheen, it's the drink of demons, bananachs and banshees.😵 JB 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted May 16, 2023 #17 Share Posted May 16, 2023 1 hour ago, John Bull said: Then you already owe me a pint, Hank.😛 And another for Julie - she deserves one, a donkey alongside her pooped on her leg while going up. Everyone thought it was hilarious 🤣🤣🤣 Well, everyone except her 🤣 But you know that neither of us would touch that evil black Irish potcheen, it's the drink of demons, bananachs and banshees.😵 JB 🙂 A few years ago we also decided to ride those dreadful beasts. Our two donkeys decided to race up the path, and my steed kept trying to drag my left leg along the rock wall (which would have resulted in a nasty abrasion). I "encouraged" the animal to move towards the center but it was a battle all the way to the top. And then we smelled like "Donkey" for most of the day. While it can be fun, it is not something we recommend for most folks. Hank P.S. Trying to picture you and Julie going up the path and the thought has me ROFL. Would be worth buying a few pints to see the deed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justjrn Posted May 21, 2023 #18 Share Posted May 21, 2023 On 5/10/2023 at 12:52 PM, kitkat343 said: Hi, a RC cruise that is currently sailing was scheduled to visit Israel, and has been diverted due to the geopolitical situation. They are visiting Santorini. I thought in the past there were ferries to bypass the cable car/donkey situation - are any of them running or do you have any suggestions since these poor people already lost out on their dream cruise to the Holy Land. Which ship was this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkaczanowski Posted May 21, 2023 #19 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Justjrn said: Which ship was this? 5/6 Odyssey of the seas. 3 days Israel skipped and replaced with Santorini and Chania Edited May 21, 2023 by Jkaczanowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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